Genealogy Chat

Hi Mike Can i ask where you bought your discs from that you do lookups on for people. Also today iv been to oadby libary and got another to books on oadby .When i get more time im going back to do some work on oadby they have old photos of oadby and i think they said fiche so who knows what il find sj

Hi Mike This is Gemma O' Canada again!!! I just wondered if you had had a chance to see if my George Whitehead appeared on any other records? I think that you said that you were going to try to locate him elsewhere as he had not shown up where you had been looking. My apologies if I have got the wrong end of the stick on this one!!! Thanks again for all your help Gemma. :-)

Greeting's Again....... Gemma O' Canada. I had not forgotten you. I'm still ploughing through the Hard copies of nonconformist baptisms within the Loughborough area. Nothing showing up ....yet. Hence no posts from myself regarding any findings. ...... MIKE, .......'The search still continues '

Hi Mary from Italy, wow, bet you're soooooo excited about your trip ....... we'll keep hold of the good weather for you, been quite warm recently, well for here anyway, lol. Are you just visiting the villages, or doing the cemetery / church searches too? think you'll be fine in Rothley, it really has calmed down there in the last few weeks, well you wouldn't believe the amount of people that stop & look closely at my 3 yr old blonde neice, who live in Mountsorrel, inbetween Quorn & Rothley !! let us know when you are coming over won't you........

Hi Gemma (and Mike), Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but there are lots of pre-1837 Baptist records for Leicestershire online, including Loughborough: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb*com/~blanchec/EMidBaps.htm (replace asterisk with dot) Can't see George Whitehead, but there are several other Whiteheads.

Hi Jane, We shall probably be over during the last week of August and first week of September. I know the villages quite well (I went to school in Quorn), so I shall mainly be looking at cemeteries, apart from the Record Office. I had no idea when I lived in Birstall that we had ancestors in Rothley, Quorn, Barrow and Woodthorp - I thought they were all in the city of Leicester. We apparently had one ancestor who ended up as a beadsman at Cave's Charity House in Barrow, which I'd like to have a look at, and I want to have a look at headstones in Quorn and Rothley cemeteries. Do you want to meet up for coffee one day when we're in the area?

Hello Mary Has been a while since we spoke (mainly on the other side!) I am in Nottingham but visited Rothley for many years when my great aunts lived there. I wondered about a mini meet too if you don't mind me invading although it does partly cover my holiday so I will be heading the opposite way 30th Aug Elaine

Hi Elaine, You're not invading at all! I addressed my message to Jane as she asked when we were coming over. Anybody else interested in a Leicestershire mini-meet? As soon as I've got my holiday dates sorted out, I'll post them here.

Hi Mike, I am so sorry! I did mean to put Robert, not Richard. I believe Robert married a Elizabeth Norwich in 1842, although I can not find a sign of a Elizabeth Norwich or anything similar on the 1841 census. There are 2 possibles for Robert in 1841 and neither is with parents. I do think that the William and Frances you mentioned could be the parents. Do they have a son called Robert to your knowledge? Thanks again for all your help (I'm still very new to this!) James

Hi Mary & Elaine....... yes i could meet up sometime, work permitting...... is my Uncle Mike coming, if he can drag himself away from that fiche reader, lol? i think i have been round every cemetery in Rothley, Mountsorrel & Barrow too........ even though i thought my lot were all from Leicester ( as i am originally too!)

Hi Jane He should be along soon, you read my mind. Have only met him once and Bev, it would be nice to say hello to you all and we can fight buying Mike soft drinks for all his help at last! Elaine

Greeting’s Again James …… There you Go…… St. Margaret’s Parish Church Leicester. Entry No.443, AUG 7, 1842, after Banns ROBERT FISHER, 33., Bachelor. LABOURER, of WHEAT St, Son. of WILLIAM FISHER, LABOURER ELIZABETH NORWICH, 28., Spinster.. of WHEAT St, Daughter. of JOHN NORWICH, LABOURER Wits: SAMUEL CLARK, MARY NORWICH. 1861. Census RG. 9. / 2287 / 52 / Page. 5. Leicester. St. Margaret’s Parish. No. 45. Wheat Street. Robert Fisher. Head. Mar. 52. Labourer. b Twyford. Leicestershire. Elizabeth Wife, 47. b Leicester. William. Son. 18. Lab. b Ditto. John. Son. 16. Lab. b Ditto. Alice. Dau. 9. Scholar. b Ditto. RICHARD. Son. 7. Scholar. b Ditto. 1851. Census HO 107 / 2088 / 508./ 6 Leicester. St. Margaret’s Parish. 53. Wheat Street. ROB'T FISHER Head M 40 M Labourer Lei TWYFORD ELIZABETH FISHER Wife M 35 F Seamster Lei SMGT WILLIAM FISHER Son 8 M Lei SMGT JOHN FISHER Son 6 M Lei SMGT SMGT. = St. Margaret’s Parish. Early Marriages :~ St. Andrew’s Parish Church. Twyford. Leicestershire. William Fisher. Of this Parish. Frances Large. Of Somerby Parish. 25th. November. 1782. By Banns. A bit early I think ? Seeing they named a Daughter Alice as of 1861. Census Better one ? :~ St. Andrew’s Parish Church. Twyford. William Fisher. ~ Alice Gibson. Both of this Parish. 4th. November. 1810. By Banns. Although the year is not right for Robert’s Bapt c 1809.? No Robert Baptism with Parents William & Frances showed up But need to have a look at the Parish Registers To be sure of year & Parents . MIKE. UPDATED :~ Your Elizabeth Norwich. Try this one :~ HO 107 / 604 / Bk. 6. / Fol. 13. / Pages 17 ~ 18. Leicester. St. Martins Parish. Silver Street. Hollies Yard. Elizabeth NORWICK. 25. Seamer. born within the County. Working for Charles Dalby & Harriett Dalby Née NORWICH. Tailors Marriage All Saints Parish Church Leicester 1834. By Banns.

OK, we've got our travel plans organised, so we'll be arriving on 26/8 and leaving on 5/9. We shall be in Birmingham on 2/9, but apart from that we'll mainly be in Leics. Anyone else interested in a mini-meet, possibly in the Rothley area? So far it's me, Jane in Loughborough and Elaine Stephens. Mike, what about you?

Hello again Mike, thanks ever so much for going to the trouble of looking for me. I am still under the impression that maybe Elizabeth's name wasn't Norwich, but maybe something similar as there doesn't seem to be many Norwich's listed on any census. If you have time would you be able to do another lookup for me? Lucy Fisher and Henry Halford married in 1893 in Leicester, I have their son Harry Hardwick Halford's birth cert from 1899 and Henry is also down as Harry. In 1901 Lucy is living with her parents and children, but no sign of Henry/Harry Halford, her husband. Would you be able to look up the marriage cert if possible and find out how old he is and who his father is? Thanks again, James

Greeting’s Again Mary O’ Italy……. No sign of your James Pool(e) c 1843.Baptism In any of the Parishes in the Area St. Margaret’s. All Saints & St. Nicolas. Did spot these though :~ All Saints Parish Church. Page. 4. Entry. No. 30. 3rd. Sept. 1837. Thomas. Son of Joseph & Hannah Pool. North-Gates. Wool Comber. Geo. Barker. Curate. Page 64. Entry No. 187. 4th. July. 1847. Sarah. Daughter of Thomas & Harriett Pool. High Cross Street. Glazier & Plumber. Geo. Barker. Curate. St. Nicolas Parish Church. Page. 12. Entry No. 39. 26th. January. 1837. Emma Selina. Daughter of Thomas & Harriett Pool. Thornton Lane. Glazier & Plumber. J. Davis. Curate. Re your visit to UK. .......... The Record Office will be CLOSED :~ Saturday. 25th. August. 07. And Monday 27th. Bank Holiday Re open Tuesday 28th………9.15. AM. I’ll try and make an appearance where ever the Mimi meet lands up But try and avoid Wed, Thurs.& Fri. MIKE. xx

*** F.A.O.*** Rosemary. Extra details obtained from the original Marriage Registers At Records Office. Both William & Hannah signed by own signatures. John Woodcock. Vicar. Wit’s :~ Thomas Tompson. Hannah Cooper. The earlier Marriage Registers were too faded to be sure of details after the Names……Sorry. ***F.A.O. *** Vicky Lewis. Odstone comes under Shackerstone……. Just these Baptism Records :~ Page. 26. Entry. No. 206. 11th. March. 1832. Jane Eleanor Mary. Daughter of William & Jane Jarvis. Odstone Baptism. Labourer. W.W. Greenway. Curate. Page. 29. Entry. No. 232. 22nd. June. 1833. Hannah. Daughter of William & Jane Jarvis. Odstone Baptism. Labourer. W.W. Greenway. Curate. No sign of their Marriage But seeing the 1851.Census returns seems Jane came from Warwickshire Brighton ? = Ryton on Dunsmore. So maybe they married there ? An early Marriage Shackerstone. Thomas Jarvis ~ Ann Freeman. Both of Odstone. 10th. October. 1789. By Banns. John Bird. Vicar. Wit’s :~ Ann Freeman. Joseph Earp.& William Chater. ( Parish Clark. ) All signed by own signatories . MIKE.

***F.A.O.*** Gemma O’ Canada. I’ve now completed the trawl through Nonconformist Registers for the Loughborough Area…….. Sorry No sign of your George Whitehead. The only Whitehead records is as follows Micro Films No’s 15 ~ 49. Wesleyans. Film 15. 31st. Jan. 1819. Louisa. Daughter of Thomas & Phoebe Whitehead. Thorpe Acre. 11th. Oct. 1822. Elizabeth. Daughter of Thomas & Phoebe Whitehead. Thorpe Acre. Film 49. 17th. May. 1826. Thomas Eggerton Whitehead. Son of Thomas & Mary Whitehead, Shardlow. in the County of Derby. 26th. Sept. 1833. William Eggerton Whitehead. Son of Thomas & Mary Whitehead. Shardlow. Which seems to fit in with George being in Nottinghamshire latter. Sorry I was not able to hit the nail on the head MIKE.xx

*** F.A.O. *** James. Extra details from the original Marriage Registers :~ ANNO DOMINI Twyford. William of this Parish. Frances Large of the Parish of Somerby. By Banns by J. Clark Vicar. Both signed by own signatories. Wit’s :~ William Lane. By Mark = + John Walker. William Fisher of this Parish. Alice Gibson. Of this Parish. By Banns. J. Clark. Vicar. Alice by her Mark = + 4th, Nov. 1810. Wit’s :~ William Palmer. Elizabeth Whitehead. Baptisms :~ 1785. Robert. Son of William & Frances Fisher. ….Bapt. ….27th. Feb. 1790. Jane daughter of William & Frances. ….Bapt……24th. Jan. 1791. Michael. Son of William & Frances Fisher Paupers. Bapt. 6th. May. 1798. Ann. Daughter of William & Frances Fisher. Paupers.…..Bapt.18th. March. 1800. Elizabeth. Daughter of William & France Fisher Paupers.. Bapt. 17th. Dec. Re look up of Marriage. 1893. Sept. Qrt. Lucy Fisher ~ Henry / Harry Halford. Leicester 7a. 293. I will have a look at the other Parishes It's not St. Margaret's Church. Could be All Saints as that is where Lucy was with children & Parents 1901. Seeing that there was another married Daughter of John Fisher Also with in the same household also with out her husband. Just wonder if both were away fighting in 2nd Boar War. 1899. ~ 1902.? MIKE.

Hello again Mike. Just a bit of information- Have you heard of a place called Cottsebach Leicester? I have it in one of my American rellies in the 1600s but I can't find it on the modern day maps, you know what the Yanks are like for getting English spellings wrong lol. Paul

Greeting’s Again Paul ….. Just the E & S round the wrong way but close for those over the pond. ….lol :0)))) COTESBACH. in Dooms day book 1068 = Cotesbece Cotes ( Pears .n. ) Bece (a stream valley ) Midway from Lutterworth & Shawell. Just off to the left of the A 426. But do not blink otherwise you’ll miss it……. MIKE.