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Help advice needed with three buriels in one grav

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joysie4

joysie4 Report 9 Aug 2007 18:03

I went to the cemetery Portsmouth for a map of my ancesters grave Edmund Mcdowell buried 2/1/1926 (was in the navy) and the chap in the office said there was two others in with him a Alfred William Coward buried 23/10/1939 (died in the navy) as mentioned in the war graves also a Mary Emily Coward buried 7/5/1996 age 90 the chap said they were related Edmund McDowell had two sisters Eliz b 1869 born in Devon Emily b 1875 born in Devon perhaps they married a Coward Im confused any help apperciated Joyce

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Aug 2007 18:09

it must be a private grave so their must be a connection . have you tried looking for the marriage of the couple, must be before 1939 if thats when the second chap died.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Aug 2007 18:10

Cant see death certs for either of them. Someone must have arranged the funeral of the 1996 one .didnt they have any more info.

Petrina

Petrina Report 9 Aug 2007 18:20

If you have Alfred Coward's age you could try to find a marriage for him. You know the other was born in 1906. She may have been a daughter?

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 18:25

OND 1905 birth of Alfred William Coward Portsmouth 2b 394 Janice

joysie4

joysie4 Report 9 Aug 2007 18:31

Shirley Patrina Janice Thank you for the advice and the birth date How did you find it ??? I havent got the marriages of mary and eliz I dont know how they came to be in portsmouth Joyce

Elaine

Elaine Report 9 Aug 2007 18:39

From the CommonWealth War Graves Commision Casualty Details Name: COWARD, ALFRED WILLIAM Initials: A W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Petty Officer Regiment/Service: Royal Navy Date of Death: 16/10/1939 Service No: P/J 102078 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Plot 100 (Cobin). Row 8. Grave 51. Cemetery: PORTSMOUTH (KINGSTON) CEMETERY E

Libby

Libby Report 9 Aug 2007 18:47

My Mum's uncle died during WW2. Because his family did not have a family plot a neighbour gave her premission for him to buried in her plot. The War Graves Commission put up a headstone a few years ago with his name on it. Libby

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 18:53

William Henry McDowell married Editha Harriett Rundle Stoke D 5b 507 JFM 1869 These are Edmund's parents, so Coward isn't his mother's maiden name. (Found on FreeBMD) Janice

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 18:58

Mary Emily Coward's death isn't showing on Ancestry. Any ideas anyone? Janice

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 19:22

BINGO! JAS 1928 Alfred William Coward married May E McDowell Portsmouth 2b 1275 Now who was May? Alfred McDowell's wife was called May (see 1901 when Edmund is living with them). Is this a coincidence or did Alfred die and May remarry? Janice

Elaine

Elaine Report 9 Aug 2007 19:24

Bingo again Death not Mary Emily but May May Emily Coward Birth Date: 22 Dec 1905 Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1996 Age at death (estimated): 90 Registration district: Portsmouth Inferred County: Hampshire Register number: E49A Entry Number: 107

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 19:24

And Ancestry shows the death of May Emily Coward in 1996 aged 90, born 22nd Dec 1905. It was May not Mary.

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 19:25

Elaine. You beat me to it!

Elaine

Elaine Report 9 Aug 2007 19:26

and.... Births Mar 1906 McDowell May Emily Portsmouth 2b 458

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 19:29

Do you think she could be Alfred and May's daughter then - Edmund's niece?

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 19:35

May Emily McDowell's birth is on FreeBMD so it's not a 2nd marriage.

Elaine

Elaine Report 9 Aug 2007 19:35

Janice At guess I would agree May McDowell who married Alfred Coward was the daughter of Alfred & May McDowel and the niece of Edmund. That would explain the family connection on the buriel plot. Husband & wife buried with her uncle. Shame May never remarried, she was a widow for nearly 60 years. Cheers E x

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 19:35

You're too quick for me Elaine lol!

Janice

Janice Report 9 Aug 2007 19:41

The McDowell father was a boiler maker. Perhaps he made ships' boilers and that's why they went to Portsmouth - to the Naval base. Devonport is also a naval area so it could have been a job transfer.