Genealogy Chat

Thanks both of you for trying so hard. I really appreciate it. Chris

Suzanne, I checked every James Jacobs on the census - no sea captain, and no Cissy! Emma.

Christine/Emma I've had another look for Cissy; I've even checked people born in France, but no luck I'm afraid.

Hi Lucy I think it is a middle name, we think there is a 'French Connection' somewhere in this family so I'm guessing it comes from her mother. Thanks Chris

Elton, Can't find anything exact for Thomas Reid ...surprise surprise! Have got 4 options for you: Thomas Reed b. Buntingford liv. Swaffham Prior 48 yr Thomas Read b. Hayes Middlesex liv. Hayes 46 yr Thomas Reed b. London liv. Barnet 45 yr Thomas Hy Reed b. Potters Bar liv. West Ham 59 yr Have you got any wives names I can cross ref. with? Emma. P.S. Nothing for Alfred Howard I'm afraid.

Hi Suzanne Many thanks for the info, this Cissy is proving very elusive, we know there is a 'French Connection' somewhere in this family and she is the closest I've found. Once again, many thanks for your time and trouble. Chris

Hi Elton, Hope this is your younger Henry. Was the older one the father? RG12/1417, folio 33, page 14 Dedham, Essex The Neath? Ellen Howard, head, wid, 62, Essex Ardleigh Henry Howard, son, 16, labourer agricultural, Essex Dedham I'll have a look for the others now.

Suzanne thank you very much for both look-ups you have been very helpful. I think the 2nd Edith would be Ethel as I found Ethel Louise Cupid born in Feb 1891. My mums family knew about the name change but not why and from which one. Sounds like there could be some skeletons in the cupboard Thanks Again very much appriciated Good luck in your own searches Chris

Hi Chris Here's brother George: RG12/2979, Folio 75, Page 14 101 Benedict Street, Bootle, Lancashire George B Cupid, Head, 32, Engine Fitter, born Liverpool Selina C, wife, 31, born Liverpool Selina A, daur, 8, born Liverpool Alexander G, son, 5, born Liverpool Edith A, daur, 3, born Liverpool Edith L, daur, 1 month (bless), born Bootle Mary J McGowan, servant, 19, born Liverpool I don't know why both little girls are called Edith. Perhaps they were known by their second names!! Let me know if you have any more queries. No I won't be taking this up for a living. My husband and children won't let me!!!!???? PS Why is one Cupit and the other Cupid?

Suzanne Thank you very much you have just found my g,grandfather. the look-up was very much appriciated,and I hope I can be of some help to you one day From A Very Happy Chris ps-have you thought of taking this up as a living, LOL

Hi Chris Have found the following: RG12/2955, Folio 76, Page 38 2 Gorst Street, Everton, Liverpool William W Cupit, Head, 21, born Liverpool Mary, wife, 21, born Liverpool Lilian, daur, 4 months (I think), born Liverpool I can't make out William's profession. Maybe Lucy can do better. Hope that helps. Must put the children to bed. Will look for brother George later.

Christine No luck with Cissy yet, maybe Lucy will have better luck. I did find John though: RG12/2616, Folio 89, Page 27 30 Orwell(?) Street, Grimsby Esau Patch, Head, 60, Dock labourer, born Somersetshire Elizabeth Patch, wife, 58, born Somersetshire John Lee Johnson, son, 34, Fisherman, born Lincolnshire Eliza Jane Johnson, wife, 33, born Wales John Esau Johnson, son, 13, born Grimsby Thomas William Johnson, son, 10, born Grimsby Charles Henry Johnson, son, 8, born Grimsby Colleen ? Johnson, daur, 4, born Grimsby Joseph Harry Johnson, son, 4, born Grimsby Henry Everett, lodger, 25, Fisherman, born Norfolk. I think the Patchs must be Grandma and Grandpa, and John Lee and Eliza must be Mum and Dad, with 5 kids. Hope that helps.

Hi Lucy I can see you are very busy but if you are still up for it can you please do a look-up for me. I'm looking for William Walter Cupit and his wife Mary they should also have a daughter called Lilian and possibly another called Ethal Josephine and they should be living in Liverpool but where that is the question I'm also looking for George B Cupid Wife Selina.He is Williams oldest brother born about 1858 but what i'm trying to find out about him,is if he was also born in Liverpool. Thanks you very much,Much Appriciated Chris

Christine, Is Bordeaux a middle name or is it a double barrelled surname?

Sorry about the delay in getting back to you-school stuff and stroppy boys!!! Many thanks for the look up-they are just the people I was looking for.What a star!!

Hi Lucy Re: Cissy Rhena Bordeaux Jacobs I have her marriage certificate: 30/09/1897 St Andrews Church Grimsby to John Esau Johnson. She was living at 30 and he at 26 Orwell St Grimsby. They were living at 38 Riby St Grimsby when 7th child Susannah born 1917. All their children born in Grimsby, some of them married in Grimsby, but can't find them on any census. Thanks for trying, I can see you have been rather busy!! Chris

Hi Bernie, The only one who fits the bill although not born in Scotland is: RG12/2696, Folio 11, page 16 Liverpool Lancashire 244 & 246 Bedford Road Thomas L Rogers, head, mar, 30, freight clerk, Lancashire Bootle Mary Rogers, wife, mar, 28, Northumberland North Shields Maud Rogers, daur, 4, Bootle Edith? Rogers, daur, 1, Bootle Joseph Stewart, father in law, mar, 60, General Labourer, Scotland Elizabeth Stewart, mother in law, mar, 59, Northumberland Ratcliffe Joseph Stewart, brother in law, sing, 34, railway goods porter, Northumberland North Shields. Bernie, where I have put Rogers the family is indexed as Elaner???? Don't ask me why! - when you look at the schedule it's definitely Rogers.

Hi Patricia Here is your Ellen Dodd information. RG12/2418, Folio 136, page 30 Aston Warwickshire Windsor Street, Court 40 2 house Thomas Dodd, head, mar, 43, gun finisher, Warwickshire Birmingham Emma Mary Dodd, wife, mar, 41, Birmingham Lily Elizabeth Dodd, daur, sing, 14, pre?s worker, Birmingham Edwin Arthur Dodd, son, 12, scholar, Birmingham Thomas Henry Dodd, son, 10, scholar, Birmingham Ellen Susannah Dodd, daur, 8, scholar, Birmingham Julia Emma Dodd, daur, 5, scholar, Birmingham Ada Annie Dodd, daur, 1, Birmingham RG12/2421, Folio 49, page 46 Aston, Warwickshire Claverdon? Streeet, 2 court 1 house James Dodd, head, mar, 46, blacksmith, Northamptonshire Nuneaton Mary E Dodd, wife, mar, 41, Northamptonshire Moulton James Dodd, son, 15, tube drawer, Swindon Wiltshire Ellen Dodd, daur, 12, scholar, Manchester Lancashire Patrick Dodd, son, 11, scholar, Wolverton Buckinghamshire Sophia Dodd, daur, 9, scholar, Manchester Lancashire Rose (transcribed as Ross) Dodd, 1 mo, Birmingham RG12/2440, Folio 13, page 9 Bickenhill Warwickshire John Dodd, head, mar, 37, Agricultural Labourer, Fillongley Staffordshire Alice Dodd, wife, mar, 37, Orayton Bapett, Staffordshire Josiah Dodd, son, 13, agricultural labourer, Shenstone Staffs Eliza Dodd, daur, 11, scholar, Fillongley Staffs Ellen Dodd, daur, 8, scholar, Bedworth Staffs Edwin Dodd, son, 5, Bickenhill Staffs Bertie Dodd, son, 3, Bickenhill Staffs Charles Dodd, son, 1, Bickenhill Staffs RG12/2399, Folio 48, page 14 All Saints, Birmingham, Warwickshire 5 ct, 3H Heaton Street Thomas A Dodd, head, mar, 25, jeweller, Birmingham Florence Dodd, wife, mar, 23, warehousewoman, Birmingham Ellen E Dodd, daur, 6mo, Birmingham RG12/2261, Folio 38, page 19 Handsworth Staffordshire 5 Poplar Place Maria Dodd, head, wid, 49, steel pen hilter?, Warwickshire Birmingham Ellen E Dodd, daur, sing, 22, Birmingham, blind from childhood Alfred Dodd, son, sing, 19, Bicycle fork filer, Birmingham Next door to this family on page 20 are: George A Dodd, head, mar, 29, jeweller, Birmingham Alice Dodd, wife, mar, Staffs Gt. Barr Elsie F Dodd, daur, 5, Birmingham George E Dodd, son, 4, Birmingham Herbert A Dodd, 1, Birmingham at bk6 Poplar Place, Soho Hill

Thanks Lucy Thats great, i didnt really expect John Elliff to still be alive, but his daughter Elizabeth Killick and family that you found for me in 1891 were living in the same Street as some other Elliff family i am interested in during the 1901 census. Many thanks for your help Yvette

Hi Yvette, Nothing for John Elliff I'm afraid. RG12/595, Folio 50, page 33 Croydon, Surrey 11 Cobden Road Stephen Killick, head, mar, 35, general labourer, Surrey Shirley Eliza Killick, wife, mar, 33, Surrey Woodside Albert Killick, son, 13, Woodside Arthur Killick, son, 11, scholar, Woodside Ada Killick, daur, 9, scholar, Woodside Elizabeth Killick, daur, 8, scholar, Woodside William Killick, son, 5, Woodside Emily Killick, daur, 1, Woodside