Genealogy Chat

I have a George William Harper Bannel (Brick cutter) and his daughter May Bannell born 1893, so would be 7 at the time of the census. Living in the Tottenham, Middlesex area I think. But I can't for the life of me find them, I have posted a request on the other board in hope's he is on the 1891 census. But can anyone tell me were else I could look Please. Thanks Valerie

So you know your message is not being ignored - I've spent nearly an hour looking but can't come up with any possibilites. Where was George born and what age would he have been in 1901?

Valerie I had the same problem, knew for sure that my gt grandfathers family were in Nottingham in 1901, but could I find them. They had a double surname and I tried the 'Mallard' rather than the 'Cronk' still no luck. So I started trying different first letters for Mallard. I finally found them under Hallard!!! Is it possible the name has been transposed?

Hi Ruth I don't know when he was married, that is the only information I have, from my grandmothers marriage certificate. She was one of a large family ten or more children but I don's know if she was the first, last or in the middle. Valerie

I've tried variations of Bannell, Panell, Dannell, Bonnell, Donnell etc. Still no joy.

Hi Helen and Suzanne. Thanks for looking Helen, at times a new pair of eye's might have just seen what I missed. I have tried different spellings of the name Bannell, just one N or one L, with fingers crossed but no luck. What I will do is try and find and send for her birth certificate that will give me some more information, and see if they turn up then. Thanks for trying Valerie

Hi everyone, Jill Hunt on the other board has just found them on the 1891 census. George Bannell 42 bricklayer born Kings lynn Norfolk Mary 37 wife Mary 14 George 15 mineral water labourer Lucy 12 Walter 10 Rose 6 Lily 4 Violet 3 Daisy 8months children all born London 23 Magdalen rd Islington It looks as though my nan who we called May and what is on the marriage certificate, was called Rose by the family. She was born in Islington and had sisters called Lily and Violet, but I did not know their age. Now I can go back and check the 1901. What a good feeling it is when someone just gives you that bit of information needed to untangle things. Valerie

Hi you would never guess, I still can't find them on the 1901. I am going for a coffee and try again later. Valerie

Have you found them on 1881 census? this looks like them ,and theres acouple of children who werent there with them in 1891 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George BANNEL Head M Male 31 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England Bricklayer Mary BANNEL Wife M Female 26 Helpringham, Lincoln, England Kate BANNEL Daur Female 8 Pancras, Middlesex, England Scholar Hannah BANNEL Daur Female 7 Pancras, Middlesex, England Scholar George BANNEL Son Male 5 Pancras, Middlesex, England Scholar Mary BANNEL Daur Female 4 Pancras, Middlesex, England Lucy BANNEL Daur Female 2 Pancras, Middlesex, England Walter BANNEL Son Male 9 m Pancras, Middlesex, England Eliza BUSH Visitor U Female 25 Helpringham, Lincoln, England Of No Occupation Source Information: Dwelling 91 Bayham St Census Place London, Middlesex, England I wonder if the visitor is Marys sister as she is from Helpringham also? Anna

Hi Linda. With all the dates going round in my head, and being so pleased that at least some of the family had turned up on one census, it did not click she would not have been on the 1891 as she was born in 1893, so Rose must have been another sister, and none of this family I have seem to be on the 1901. I am going to give it a rest now and try later. Regards Valerie

Hi Anna. That is the same family thank you very much, that gives me a bit more to work on. The visitor could well be Mary's sister, I will keep that in mind as I find out more on them. You all have been a great, thanks for all your help. Valerie

Valerie, There is a George NANBELL age 51, bricklayer living in Surbiton. A possibility?, Marian

Well done Linda you beat me to it, I was going through changing the first letter of their name as that was the only other thing I had not tried. Great now I can get that printed up, and I hope it has given you all a buzz to get there in the end, it is such a good feeling. And all this in one morning. I can't say it enough times thank you all and I hope I can return the help. Valerie

I have lost a message, there was one from Helen who had put in some index codes for me, went to write them out after last message and now it's gone. Are you there Helen.

Valerie On FreeBMD there's a William Bannell married in Kings Lynn Mar 1839. Wonder if this is George's Dad? There are a few children listed born 1845-1853, no George but could be his siblings, it's about the right time.

Helen Thats a good possibility that it is Georges dad as his second name was William. I will get one of the eleven children's birth certificates first, to get Mary's maiden name then Georges Marriage certificate that should give me his fathers name thanks Valerie

Valerie, This is on IGI: Husband William Bannell Christening: 07 SEP 1817 St Margarets-Wesleyan, Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England Marriage: 26 JAN 1839 St Margaret'S, Kings Lynn, Norfolk, Wife Mary Ann Wanfer Christening: 23 FEB 1818 East Rudham, Norfolk, England Marriage: 26 JAN 1839 St Margaret'S, Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England Father: George Harper Mother: Sarah Ann Wanfer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Ellen Bannell Birth: 31 JAN 1858 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 2. Mary Ann Bannell Birth: 17 OCT 1841 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 3. Harriet Bannell Birth: 08 JUN 1843 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 4. Susan Bannell Birth: 03 OCT 1846 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 5. George Harper Bannell Birth: 13 MAY 1848 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 6. Caroline Bannell Birth: 23 JUN 1850 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 7. Edward Bannell Birth: 20 SEP 1851 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 8. Arthur Bannell Birth: 28 MAR 1852 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 9. Sarah Anne Bannell Birth: 07 NOV 1855 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 10. William Bannell Birth: 17 SEP 1856 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 11. Alfred Bannell Birth: 23 DEC 1859 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 12. Eliza Bannell Birth: 07 JUL 1861 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England 13. Matilda Bannell Birth: 15 APR 1863 Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England Crista

Hi Crista Thanks for the information. All what I receved this morning will keep me going for months. Valerie