Genealogy Chat

Greeting’s Again Jean from Zummer Zet. . . Sorry for the delay. . . these Brown’s are a right Puzzle. . . The only Ann Jordan on the 1851. Census City of Leicester of the rightish age:- 145 /05 /22. 27. Granby Street. Thomas Porter. Head Mar. 60. Builder. Born Newtown Linford. Elizabeth. Wife. 60. Born Bethnal Green London. Sarah. Un Mar. Dau. 24. Born Leicester. Emily. Un Mar. Dau. 19. Born Leicester. Henry.Un Mar.Son. 16. Carpenter. Born Leicester. ANN JORDAN. Un Mar. 27. General Servant. Born RATBY Leicestershire. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * “ William Brown’s “ in the frame for Hubby of Ann Jorden ? from 1851. . . . 1/3 Abbey Street. Lodger. 30. Un mar. Brickmaker’s Lab. Born Yorkshire. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 6, Public Wharf. Lodger. 20. Un Mar. Painter. Born Leicester. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 12, Lower Charles Street. Lodger.30. Un Mar. Hand Loom Worker. Born Anstey Leicestershire.. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Possible relitives to Ann Jordan ? :- 21,Northampton Street ( Round the Corner to Granby St. ) Thomas Jordan. Head. 26. Lambs Wool Spinner. Elizabeth. Wife. 26. Glove Stitcher. Emma.Dau. 2. All Born within the Leicestershire. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The Bell Hotel Humberstone-gate. ( Again round the corner to Granby St.) Elizabeth Jordan. Un Mar. 23. General Servant. Born Groby Leicestershire. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NO BROWN’S in BAKEHOUSE LANE 1851. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * On the 1861. Census. . . Bakehouse Lane only goes up to No. 25. Found at No. 9. John and Elizabeth Brown with Family. All born in Leicester. Next entry on the Census to No. 25. is :- Golden Bells Yard. No. 2. Richard & Harriet Brown. with Family. All born In Leicester. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Ann (12) & Edwin (2) Brown in Loughb'o Area possibly with G/ Parents 1851. ? Unfortunately you only get an Index No. 269. at side of Names And you have to try and match them up to make up the Family. So due to the ages of the choices They could well be with Grand Parents there is the choice :- Joseph Brown. Aged 80. Samuel. 60. Mary 40. All with the No. 269. along with six other Children. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * You have asked me for a look up for a Elizabeth Jordan. born Burbage on the 1841. Census ? Now. . . there is no Search programme on that disk so have to trawl through The images one by one. . . Did you mean look up for the City ? Or the County ( Burbage ) ? MIKE.

Greeting’s Again Geraldine. . . . Baxter’s in Greetham 1861. Index Rutland Census. . . BAXTER CATHERINE HEAD 63 2306 29 GREETHAM BAXTER ROBERT D SON 34 2306 29 GREETHAM BAXTER AGNES DAU 31 2306 29 GREETHAM Greeting’s Again Tracey From Leicester.. . . . No Gillham’s Found in 1861. Index Census. . . . Greeting’s Susie. . . . “ Casterton’s EMPINGHAM “ 1861. Index Census . . . . CASTERTON SARAH HEAD 54 2305 80 EMPINGHAM CASTERTON URIAH W SON 33 CASTERTON CHARLES SON 23 CASTERTON ZACHARIAH HEAD 68 2305 86 EMPINGHAM CASTERTON JANE WIFE 55 CASTERTON ELLEN DAU 23 CASTERTON URIAH SON 16 CASTERTON CHRISTIAN SON 14 CASTERTON WILLIAM SON 14 CASTERTON EUSIBON HEAD 35 2305 90 EMPINGHAM CASTERTON MARY A WIFE 42 MIKE.

There were HOUCHENs in Fincham, Norfolk. I know 'cos I did some research there years ago (when my father was the Rector) for some folks in NZ. Christine

LOL :0))) Tell him I know the feeling . . .:0))) By the way just had a look NO HOUCHEN 'S in the County of Rutland. . . . MIKE.

mike thankyou so much!!! youve made an old man very happy lol(hubby not me)lol susie

Greeting's Again Tracey. . . . Your very Welcome. . . . Nice when it comes together ain't it . . . :0))))) MIKE.

Greeting’s Susie. . . These are from the Index Census 1851. CASTERTON EUSEBIUS SERV 24 2092 154 EMPINGHAM Name. Forenames. Rel. Age. 2093 / 144 EMPINGHAM CASTERTON JACHARIAH HEAD 57 CASTERTON JANE WIFE 46 CASTERTON OGDEN SON 20 CASTERTON JONAH SON 18 CASTERTON ELLEN DAU 13 CASTERTON EMMA DAU 11 CASTERTON JAMES SON 8 CASTERTON URIAH SON 6 CASTERTON WILLIAM SON 4 CASTERTON CHRISTIAN SON 4 2093 / 164 EMPINGHAM CASTERTON RICHARD HEAD 50 CASTERTON SARAH WIFE 46 CASTERTON URIAH WILLIAM SON 23 CASTERTON CHARLES SON 12 CASTERTON JOHN SON 9 MIKE.

mike thankyou for offering,your an angel susie

Greeting’s Again Tracey. . . Think this is the young Lady you want ? 1851. Index Census. Lyddington RUTLAND. GILLHAM ANNE DAU 9 2093 126 LYDDINGTON GILLHAM HARRIET WIFE 38 2093 126 LYDDINGTON GILLHAM THOMAS WHEELER HEAD 49 2093 126 LYDDINGTON GILLHAM THOMAS WHEELER SON 10 2093 126 LYDDINGTON MERRITT JANE VSTR 19 2093 126 LYDDINGTON WATTS ARTHUR VSTR 8 2093 126 LYDDINGTON WATTS AUGUSTA VSTR 27 2093 126 LYDDINGTON WIGNELL ANN NURS 33 2093 126 LYDDINGTON Other 9 year olds in Village to note. Ann Bent. 9 Dau. 2093 / 137. Ann Frisby. 9. Gr / Dau. 2093 / 135. Anne Partridge. 10. Dau. 2093 / 190. MIKE. Susie. . . I'll have a look when I get back from Church 8.00 pm ish MIKE.

hubby is looking for CASTERTON families in epingham,rutland,leics susie

Ummm and I bet it begins with "Gri.. . ." :0)))

Mike, Cheers me dears......... Very kind of you..... as usual ! am sure i'll be in touch soon, Jx

Eh up Jane. . . . Hot off the presses . . . . RG 9 / 2284 / Page 52. 13 Conduit Street Leicester. Joseph Hickling. Head.Mar. 57. Gardener. Mary. Un Mar. 24. Gardener's Dau. Henry. Son. Un Mar. 22. Gardener. MARY ANN HICKLING. 5. GRAND DAU. All born within the The City of Leicester. * * * * * * * * * * * You can get off your knees now. . .lol :0)))) Scan on it's way via E-mail. . . MIKE.

MIKE Stomping back from the other boards in a sulk (lol). No date on IGI....... But have just found a potential birth certificate on GRO, June 1856, Hinckley...... Have ordered the certificate, so will be in touch if it looks like the right one with a mothers name, so I can beg and plead with you to do a look up!!!! :-} Sarah

Mike, Can i have another 1861 look up pleeeeaaaaaaasssseee?? i am after Joseph Hickling b.1798, Leicester, gardener/green grocer. in 1851 he was at 13 Conduit st, with family including - wife Sarah, 1798, William 1831, Sarah 1832, Joseph 1834, Mary 1837, Henry 1839. i have them all in 1881, 1891 & 1901 too, thank you so much AGAIN. Jane x

Greeting's Again Frances. . . Your very Welcome M' Duck. . . That lot took me till 4.00 am this morning to sort out for you. I see that Alice was in Worcester on the 1901 Census ! ! ! on the 1901 web site records so you might not be finished yet ? By the way if you visit the Church at Breeden take your hiking boots it sits on the top of a very step hill. . . I'm not to sure but there maybe a car park at the top MIKE.

Greeting's Again Sarah. . . Simple. . . .Disown them. . . .. . . .lol :0))) " I Sarah wish to withdraw from this game and take my bat & ball home with me So there :P ". . .lol :0))) On that I G I result does it give a date ? if so post it and I'll see if I can pin point it for a certificate Number ?

Greeting's Again Geraldine. . . . Unfortunately my 1841. Census only covers Leicester and Leicestershire. and Rutland was a county on it's own rights then. and passions still run high for it to remain that way today. But having said that I know volunteer's are busy transcribing Rutland's records in fact the 1861 Census. ( CD No. 43.) has just been released. £10.50. from the Leicester & Rutland Family History web site, or order from :- The Family History Book Shop. c/o Typewriter Centres. 101, High Street. LEICESTER. LE 1 4 JB. phone No. 0116 253 8745. ( ask for Peter ) Sorry but my Burial records only cover Leicester & Leicestershire. But if you post the details of whom your looking for in Staffs. I'll see what comes up with my V R I burial disks You never know ?. . . . MIKE.

Mike the oracle!! How do you know so much?? In reply to your reply! Elizabeth Staniforth nee Hincks (sister of Richard Hincks senior b.1830) married George Staniforth (brother of Farmer senior b.1835!). As you said she is with her father, Thomas Hincks on the 1841 and 61, missing from the 1851. Following your advice I shall continue to search for George and see what happened to that line! Richard Hincks junior - offspring of Richard senior, I agree with your comments as to parentage. There is a record of his birth on the IGI, but again, no mother mentioned. I would love to know who she is/was, as this is my direct line. Richard juniors daughter Ethel Hincks married William Staniforth, Farmer juniors son!! Can you see as to why I am so confused as to who is who in my tree? This is just the beginning of the two famillies marrying into each other! ARGH!!! Will I ever unravel the mess and mystery??? Thanks for your help once again! Sarah

Greeting’s Elizabeth. . . I seem to remember you asking about these before ? So rechecked Market Bosworth again 1841.Scanned Census. But drawn a blank . . .But remembered you stated you thought Samuel & Mary were Married in Tamworth. But since you last asked I have purchased Warwickshire 1841. Scanned Census. So. . . . BINGO ! ! Got them. . . . HO107 / 1130 / Page 27. No. 1. or No. 2. Collage Lane,Tamworth. (1st entry of Collage Lane) Samuel Paviour. Head. 20. Bricklayer. Born within the County of Warwickshire. Mary Paviour. Wife. 20. Born outside of County of Warwickshire. No other people with them. Also found them on the 1881. Census. With Family. See Bellow :- MIKE. Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household Household:Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Samuel PAVIOUR Head M Male 61 Tamworth, Stafford, England Bricklayer Mary PAVIOUR Wife M Female 61 Market Bosworth, Leicester, England Wife Joseph PAVIOUR Son U Male 27 Tamworth, Stafford, England Bricklayer John PAVIOUR Son U Male 23 Tamworth, Stafford, England Painter Source Information: Dwelling 102 Gungate Census Place Tamworth, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341663 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2768 / 30 Page Number 5