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Sue another Ringrose! found in Mkt Harborough Workhouse 1881 census. John RINGROSE U 62 M Inmate No Occ Imbecile Braybrook, Northampton Followed links on rootschat for leicestershire

Sue Hare. . . . Eh up M' Duck. . . Best get your skates on 1st thing in the morning. . . Parcel should be with you 24/08/04. Sent by recorded delivery (To be signed for) So send hubby to the door with a pen that works..lol :0)) MIKE.

Thank you, Mike That's very helpful - and generous with time & effort. I shall certainly look in from time to time - but I shall have to let my husband on occasionally to look at the Saab message-board he's involved with ;-) many thanks Christine

Christine. . . .Greeting's Found the Burial for George Bennett. 31st. May 1872. Aged 68. North Kilworth. Also an other child to add to the family Walter Charles Bennett. Christened 18th.Jan.1846. Father. George. Mother. Martha. Edwin's Christerned:- 7th.June.1835. Father. George Mother no name. Keep looking in from time to time I'll post as soon as I find anything for you. MIKE.

Mike - I'm very impressed. I just came back for a quick look before shutting down (or giving my husband a chance to play!) and found a whole lot more! If George were baptised Jan 1840, then he must have been registered oddly late. (The 1839 2nd Qtr XV-173 is the one I described in my first post - Bitteswell, wrong mother-name.) OR... when did New Year move from 25 March to 1 January? If that's an old-style Jan 1840, then we'd interpret that as 1841. But I though it was much earlier than the early 19th C that the change was made. I did contact someone on GR with N Kilworth BENNETTs but George didn't figure in her records, so I'd be very grateful for what you can give me. There are one or two "father unknowns" in this branch already, so it will be a refreshing change! Many thanks Christine

Greeting's Again Christine. . . . HOT OF THE PRESS. . . . I'VE FOUND A CHRISTENING. . . . GEORGE BENNETT. Baptised 5th. Jan. 1840. North Kilworth. Father George. Mother Martha. Also Christening's for most of the Family. I've Index Records for Bennett's North Kilworth Family goes back to 1619. also looks like I've the Burials for:- Martha 19th.Dec. 1878. Aged 75. Abode " Easinhald" I'll see what else I can find for you. MIKE.

Sue. . . I'll let you know when I've Posted it then Oh. . . . don't tell Jean but . . . .:0)))) 1841.Census. . . William Ringrose.25. Coventry St. MKT Harborough. another one for the pile. . . .:0))) Mike.

Mike, sorry to mess you about with all of this, you have done so much researching. I am in most of the time, usually the post comes first thing so hubby is always up first so he will be able to sign for it. Sue............. Don't forget that pub meal I promised if you are ever in this area.

Greeting's Sue. . . .. Got your message OH DEAR. . . .sorry to hear the post as not arrived yet :0(( I'll make a few enquiries this end at my Post Office. and a claim by the sounds of it. . . But all is not lost did do a back up disk so I'll resend it. are you in most of the day as I might send it Registered Post this time ? MIKE

Greeting’s Christine. . . . North Kilworth comes under Lutterworth :- Lutterworth Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Leicestershire, but included parts of Northamptonshire and Warwickshire. Sub-district : Lutterworth. GRO volumes : XV (1837-51); 7a (1852-1930). Arnesby, Ashby Magna, Ashby Parva, Bittesby, Bitteswell, Broughton Astley, Bruntingthorpe, Catthorpe, Claybrooke Magna, Claybrooke Parva, Cotesbach, Dunton Bassett, Frolesworth, Gilmorton, Kimcote, Knaptoft, Leire, Lutterworth, Misterton, North Kilworth, Peatling Magna, Peatling Parva, Shawell, Shearsby, South Kilworth, Swinford, Ullesthorpe, Walton in Knaptoft, Westrill and Starmore (from 1895), Wigston Parva (1837-95), Willoughby Waterless. Yes Sunday 6th. June 1841.for census. Those ages are a minefield to be honest :0((( and it depends who is giving the info they could have been down the Pub . . . .:0))))) Good luck. . . They liked to go back to their Mother's to have a child alot in those days so Blaby could be the right one Come back if your stuck, or want any more info. MIKE.

Mike from Leicester - you're a genius! Thank you very much. I really wasn't very hopeful and only looked back on the board as a matter of courtesy - "just in case". About the 1841 census - I read somewhere quite recently - that the ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 except for the ones under 10. It also said that this system was somewhat sabotaged, not only by those who were "economical with the truth" (an attribute which censuses seem to attract!) but also by those who were (e.g.) "in their sixtieth year" (i.e. 59) being logged as 60 instead of 55. George & Martha could have been born anytime 7 June 1801 - 6 June 1806, by this reckoning (if I have my arithmetic right - after half a glass of wine... ;-) ). (The 1841 census was 6/7 June?) I might give the Blaby one a try - I had thought that N K was so near Lutterworth it had to be their local Office - certainly that ties in with the info on FreeBMD about it. BUT. A child born before 7 June 1840 would be 1 for the 1841 census, so the Blaby child is a possible match. many thanks & best wishes Christine

Greeting's Christine. . . . There you go. . . . think this is the Family of George:- From a scanned image of 1841. Census return. HO107/589/06/Page 1. North Kilworth. Lutterworth Road. George Bennett.Head.35. Ag. Lab. Martha.Wife.35. Jane.Dau.11.Scholar. James.Son.10. " * William ?Gillian ?Son.10. Edwin.Son.6. * Ada ? Freda ?Dau.4. GEORGE BENNETT .SON. 1. * not able to read the name clearly. . All Born within the County of Leicestershire. Now be carefully in 1841 ages were taken to the nearest 5 years. e.g. 8 =10 7 =5. So it might not mean that James & William/Gillian were twins. Hope this is of help to you. MIKE. P.S. Just had a look on the 1837 site with the dates given There are two possibities:- ( But think this is the one you already have.) 1. George Bennett. April Qrt. 1839. Lutterworth. XV.173. 2. George Bennett. April Qrt. 1840. Blaby. XV. 53.

I have some elusive BENNETTs (prob) in the North Kilworth area. I've just copied this message over from the Bennett-history message board, in case it's any use to someone here... *** I applied for a birth cert for a George BENNETT born in N Kilworth, Leics, but when it arrived it didn't look like the right one for my purposes. Here's the info in case it's of use for someone else... 1 March 1839 at Bitteswell mother = Hannah BENNETT formerly STEVENSON, of Bitteswell father = George BENNETT, huntsman I should say that the exquisite script is not very legible: Bitteswell looks more like Bittestock or Bitteslock; Stevenson looks more like Heocuton! however, I am reasonably confident of my decryption. Bitteswell is just NW of Lutterworth; North Kilworth is almost due East, a few miles away. It could just be the right George, but I'm really after 1839 (Jun qtr) - 40 (Mar qtr) (when there doesn't seem to be a George BENNETT born in the Lutterworth area). Maybe he was registered late and it's the one or those registered in 1844 or 1849! hope this helps someone else - or that someone else can identify mine! *** What I have for mine is... The censuses mostly say he was born in North Kilworth, but one did say Kibworth but they seem to agree on Leics. 1851: age 11, vist 39 Church St, Rugby (Head= John Reynolds, innkeeper & farm) - I found this on (http://familyhistory(.)portland(.)co(.)uk/bennett/leicestershire/strays_leicestershire_1851.html) m 1862 Tipton St Martin (Pepper Box) one child b late 1871 in Bolton, Lancs, (surely there must have been some before?) 1881: aged 40, labourer, 1 Illey Pl, Ch Lane, Aston, Warks March 1887: 14 Ashleigh Pl, Baker St, Handsworth; Genrl Labourer 1891: aged 51, labourer, 96 Morville St, Ladywood I'd really like to trace some family to go with him. There weren't even any more Bennetts in the house when he was visiting in Rugby when he was only 11.

Greeting’s Ruth. . . . 1851. Census Index Only.. . . WALE. Freeman’s Common. George Wale.Head.48. Book keeper. Emmily.Wife.47. Charotte.Dau.22.Hosier Mender. Eliza.Dau.20.Fancy Hosier. Richard.Son.15.Trimmer. William.Son.12.Trimmer. GEORGE.A.Son.8.Scholar. Hannah.Dau.4.Scholar. John.H.3 months. * * * * * * * * * * HUNT. (The only one with an 8 yr. Elizabeth ) Granby Street. Isaac Hunt.Head.36. Tailor & Draper. Employing 4. Lab’s. Elizabeth.Wife.36. Hannah.Dau.11.Scholar. ELIZABETH.Dau.8.Scholar. Isaac.Son.6.Scholar. Selinia.Dau.3 months. * * * * * * * * * * The only Hunt with any Confection connections is:- East-Gates. Francis Hunt.Widow.55.Confectioner. Elizabeth.Dau.26.School Mistress. Thomas Henry Hunt.G/Son.7.Scholar. George.A.Hunt.Son.3. * * * * * * * * * * 1861.Census. . . WALE. . . RG9/2294.Page 54. 7,Kent Street. George Wale.58.Ass.Grocer.Born Leicestershire. Hinckley. Emmily.Wife.57. Born Leicester. Charotte.Dau.32.Hosier Mender. Born Leicestershire. George. A. Son.18.Clicker. Born Ditto. Hannah.S.Dau.14.\hosier Mender. Born ditto. John.H.Son.10.Scholar. Born Ditto. * * * * * * * * * * HUNT. . . . (Possiblities ?) RG9/2284.Page 11. 37,Queens Street. John Hunt.Head.52.Bookbinder. Born Leicester. Sarah.Wife.42.Born Frisby. Leicestershire. * * * * * * * * * Bit of a problem here Looks like a split up. RG9/2292.Page 92. Workhouse. John Hunt. Inmate.54. Unmarried ? FWK.Born Mowsley Leicestershire. * * * * * * * * * RG9/2292.Page.27. 6.Neals Court. Church-Gate. Samuel Hayward.Head.30.Hasp Hand (Cotton) Born Leicester. Emma Hayward.Wife.37.Houshold work. Sarah Ann.Dau.3.Born Leicester. ELIZABETH HUNT.Dau.in.Law.unmarried.19.Machine Worker. B.Leic. Arthur Draper. Son in Law.19. Lambs Wool Spinner.B.Leic. Emma Draper. Dau.in law.19. Cotton Winder. B. Leic. * * * * * * * * * * I had all this printed out along with the scanned census returns And I had the kettle on at Scouts tonight hoping you would pop in. . . Good Luck with the move and look forward to your safe return. . . MIKE.

Greeting’s Helen. . . . EARLY MARRIAGES. . . . PHOEBE KEMP. ~ THOMAS ANDREW. Redmile. 1811. By Banns. KEMP BURIALS IN Redmile.1836 ~ 1871. Place/Names/Dates/ Age. REDMILE KEMP ANN 17 MAY 1836 47 REDMILE KEMP ELIZABETH 12 AUG 1836 65 REDMILE KEMP THOMAS 23 MAR 1848 47 REDMILE KEMP JOHN 20 JAN 1850 89 REDMILE KEMP RANDALL 15 OCT 1865 54 REDMILE KEMP ELIZABETH 09 OCT 1871 73 * * * * * * * * * * * * 1841.From Original Scanned Census for Redmile. . . HO107 /08/Page 4. In the Village. JOHN KEMP.Head.80. Ag Lab. Born within the County. THOMAS.Son.40. Ag.Lab. Born within the County. RANDALL.Son.30. Ag. Lab. “ “ “ “ JANE.Dau.33. Born Langar. Leic/Nott’s. Jane, Thomas, and Randall could be Richards Sister & Brothers.? No other Kemps found in Redmile Maybe Richard & Betsy ( Elizabeth ? ) stayed in Colsterworth Area after the marriage ? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1851. INDEX ONLY. . .For Redmile. 344 ~ 359. RICHARD KEMP. 40. (1811.) ELIZABETH KEMP.50. (1801.) * * * * * * * * * * 1861.INDEX ONLY. . .For Redmile. 2349 /14. RANDALL KEMP.Head.60. ELIZABETH KEMP.Wife.62. * * * * * * * * * * 1861.Original Scanned Census Returns. RG9/2303.14. Stathern Street. Harby. Thomas Kemp. Head.58. Haggler. Born Harby. Jane Kemp.Wife.52.Born Langar.Born Leic/Nott’s. William.Son.25. Carrier. Ann.Dau.16. Eustace.Son.13.Carrier. Henry.Son.10.Scholar. Elizabeth.Dau.8.Scholar. James.Son.4.Scholar. All others born in Harby. * * * * * * * * * * * Sorry that’s all I could find Seems like Redmile was transferred To Grantham. Which comes under Lincolnshire. I know that Colsterworth is defiantly in Lincolnshire. But I hope I’ve given you a little more information. Time to blow out that candle again. . .lol :0))) MIKE. Just found this one. . . . KEMP, William Marriage Wife: Elizabeth PARKS Marriage Date: 24 Sep 1798 Recorded in: Langar, Nottinghamshire, England Collection: BTs Source: FHL Film 503504 Dates: 1778 – 1800

I'm looking for KEMP, Richard in Redmile Leic b 1807 married to Betsy? b 1819 Colsterworth. Richard was possibly a gardener. Anyone got any ideas? Thank you Helen

Greeting's Sue. . . It would appear that it might be some time yet. Seems there is a hic-up, according to the last but one quarterly New's Letter. :0( MIKE.

Mike, do you know when the 1871 census for Leics comes out please? Sue..................

NICOLA. . . . " Your very welcome " I don't know about the "Sir title" though ? Doubt at my age if I'll get up off my knees after the knighting. . .lol :0)) Thank you for e-mail. If I can help further then I'll try. MIKE.

To: MIKE FROM LEICESTER You sir are my shining star ! I didnt know about the earlier name for Long Clawson . Thank you I now have quite a lot to go on .I have emailed you because some of these are still alive and connected to my family only via a second marriage. Regards Nikki