Genealogy Chat

Hi Zoe Thanks again. I think I will order the cert for Annie and William Bays just to be sure. I agree that visitor is an odd thing to put. If she was 20 when she got married then hopefully her exact age will be on the cert and I can really get looking for her birth. Lynne

heres the marriage for Annie and William confirming that she's most probably related to Mary Ann: Marriages Jun 1878 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bays  William Frederick    Bethnal Green  1c 513   Dowsett  Sarah Jane    Bethnal Green  1c 513   Farr  Annie Victoria    Bethnal Green  1c 513   MIDDLEBROOK  Henry    Bethnal Green  1c 513 I do think it strange that the 1881 classes her as visitor rather than sister

Hi Zoe Excellent. That looks like her. I think that's her sister she's staying with that night. Lynne

Found mary Ann on 1881 I think With William and Annie Bays William BAYS   Head   M   Male   23   Kingsland, Middlesex, England   Boot Maker      Annie BAYS   Wife   M   Female   22   Canning, Essex, England         Mary A. FARR   Visitor   U   Female   29      Servant Domestic     ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Source Information:   Dwelling   10 Reform Place   Census Place London, Middlesex, England   Family History Library Film   1341088   Public Records Office Reference   RG11   Piece / Folio   0405 / 84   Page Number   16

Hi Zoe I have Thomas born approx 1863, Annie Victoria born approx 1858, John born approx 1860 and Susan born approx 1862. None of the dates are confirmed I'm afraid and I know that all but Annie and Mary Ann left England by 1881. If you can help in any way I would be really grateful. Thanks Lynne

Lynne do you know the names and approx birth year sof her other siblings? Zoe

Hi Richard Her maiden name was definitely Farr. I am waiting for the Certificate from GRO to confirm that she wasn't married before James Stratton. I can't find her as a sixteen year old on the 1871 either though and I know she had two sisters and two younger brothers at that time all with the surname Farr. Thanks for your help Lynne

Lynne Do you have the marriage cert, confirming that Farr was her maiden name? She could have been married previously like James. (35 was a bit older than the average age for a first marriage in them days) Richard

Hi guys Just back from my lunch break. Just to confirm - Mary Ann's maiden name is Farr. She married James Stratton in West Ham. Their marriage is in June qtr 1890 as Richard said. I can't find her or her brothers and sisters on the 1881. She also disappears again on the 1901. On the 1901 her son Frederick is staying with his Aunt and Uncle, Annie (nee Farr) and William Bays. If anyone has any ideas on how I can find them I would greatly appreciate it! Lynne

do we know what Mary Anns maiden name actually was? We could try and find her on th e1871 Zoe

OK, I stand corrected! There's only 2 Mary Ann Farr's born Bedfordshire on the 1881 census index - the one above & one in Biggleswade (also married).

Richard, Saw that family but they are on the 1891 census. Crista

Oh well done, Richard!!! Although this cant be the same Mary Ann can it as this one is married as a Farr. Do you think it may be the sister or something?

Crista, I think you're right, because.... Marriage on FreeBMD: Farr, Mary Ann 1890 March West Ham Essex Greater London 4a 118 Stratton, James 1890 March West Ham Essex Greater London 4a 118 And, 1881 census: Alfred FARR Head M Male 29 Kinsburn Green, Hertford, England Groom (D) Mary Ann FARR Mar M Female 28 Luton, Bedford, England Str Hat Finisher Fredk.W. FARR Son Male 7 Luton, Bedford, England Scholar Alfred H. FARR Son Male 4 Luton, Bedford, England Scholar Bertie T. FARR Son Male 2 Luton, Bedford, England Chas. FARR Son Male 1 Luton, Bedford, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 22 Dudley St Census Place Luton, Bedford, England Family History Library Film 1341394 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1649 / 82 Page Number 42

Sorry, was being thick, shows you what 6 solid hours on here followed by 4 hours sleep and then back on it can do!! (MUST do my work soon). I can see what you mean about Luton, but the first letter doesnt look like the L he used at the beginning of Labourer further down, does it. I reckon he must have been doing that page at 5 p.m. on a Friday!

Hi Crista Could well be Luton. I thought that the first letter was an H but looking at the way he does his Ls you could very well be right. Thanks Lynne

I think it says Luton. Crista

Hi Lesley I have just checked on street map sites and there is definitely an Adamson Road in Canning Town. Its the place of birth I really need though. Thanks muchly for looking Lynne

Hi Heather and Crista The Mary J Stratton on the 1881 is a different lady. James re-married in 1890 to Mary Ann so it isn't her unfortunately. Thanks for looking. Thanks for confirming the Adamson for me Heather, I wasn't 100% sure on that either but its really the place of birth I am stuck on. Thanks again Lynne

Definitely looks like Adamson to me, when you use the magnifier. Check out his other s and n on the page.