Genealogy Chat

Mike, Thanks for those - wonder if/where they fit in!! All those Johns and Henrys make it look like they fit somewhere!! Hoping to meet Duncan and Lesley about 7.00pm at Blaby - look forward to putting face to name.... Maggie P.S. You haven't said what job you'd like at Charnwood.......!!

Greeting's Again Maggie.... It's that nice man again ....lol :0) Whilst trawling through the 1841. scanned Census for someone else came across these worthy of note :- HO107 /10 / Page 39. Pike Street , Off Wharf Street. St. Maragaret's. Looks like some type of guest house ? Ann Hutchenson. 53. Elizabeth. Ditto. 18. James. 12. Ditto. All below Living with above. Robert Smith. 25. F.W.K. Mary Wilkinson. 18. Ditto. Ann. Ditto. 13. Ditto. Mary. Perkins. 12. Ditto. SARAH. Ditto. 10. HENRY BUTLER. 12. ditto. All but Ann & Elizabeth Born within the County. *************************** HO107 /10 /Page 45. Milton St. off Wharf Street. St. Margaret's. JOHN BUTLER. 25. Butcher. Jane. Wife. 30. William. Son. 5. Mary. Dau. 3. William 30. Lab......Brother to John ? All Born within the County. ******************* Printed off for you.. Best to bring a trailer tomorrow and be early ..... MIKE.

Mike, How can I ever thank you!! Think I'll have to bow and scrape when I come to Blaby tomorrow!! Still can't get over the fact that my John has gained SO many rellies in the last few days it's amazing!! The bad news for him is that I am on the trail of his mother in law!! See you tomorrow. Maggie

many thanks mike the marriage between francis and sarah is correct as you said st georges sept 22 1859 i just can not find sarahs mother or any other connection with a family for abraham he was 64 when sarah was 13 and her brother joseph was 11 was he their grandfather ??? i also understand there was another george turner brown in welford road a child not sure of an age . as you said george was 72 when he died can not find his birth i thought it was birstal?? [not from leicester] but no luck yet lynn

Greeting's Maggie....... Close....... And here is the full transcript of SARAH'S Marriage to JOHN :- Entry No.472, SEP 22, 1842, by Licence JOHN LANE, full age, bach. SHOE MAKER, of BELGRAVE GATE, s. of FRANCIS LANE, FARMER SARAH BUTLER, full age, sp. of BELGRAVE GATE, d. of HENRY BUTLER, SHOE MAKER Wits: FRANCIS LANE, CRISTALALLISE? LANE. Who's a clever Gal then ? ....lol :0)))) Good here an't it M' Duck ?........ MIKE.

Hee Hee Hee!! Think i've sussed who "my" Henry was living with in 1841!! Think Thomas Henry had a sister Sarah - found this on the St Margaret's marriage index - slight discrepancy in the year - but that could be down to transcription.... http://www.geocities(.)com/Heartland/Pond/1598/bpage.html BUTLER SARAH, 1842, JOHN LANE, 2 My next mystery is to suss out if Thomas Edward the Chemist (born c. 1819, All Saints) fits into the picture - family lore says he doesn't, but I have a hunch he does..... could he be a nephew to Henry???????????????? Can't believe that in just a few short days, John Butler has gone from being just a name on a marriage cert, to having a whole family of his own!! Thanks to Mike for his input.

HELLO MIKE ,THANKS FOR REPLYING SO QUICKLY THE ONLY INFO I HAVE GOT ON FRED H GODRICH IS HE WAS DEAD BY 1947. I HAVE MY INLAWS MARRIAGE CERT. THE ADDRESS ON IT IS 24 BRANDON ST . FRED H WAS A PANEL BEATER (AFTER MUCH DECIPHERING OF THE WRITING)LOL THANKS AGAIN

Greeting's again Lynn..... Information found Re Sarah Ann Lord born Countesthorpe :- 1851. Full Transcript Index Census for City of Leicester. MILLSTONE LANE. Abraham Lord. Widow. 64. Needle Maker. Born Canterbury Kent. Antony Joseph Lord. Son. 11. Scholar. Born Leicester. *************************** No. 7. RUTLAND STREET. SARAH LORD. Um. 19. No Occupation given. Born COUNTESTHORPE. ************************** WELFORD ROAD. SARAH ANN LORD. 13. General Servant Born Leicester. ************************** 1861. Scanned Census Images. RG9 / 2289 / Page 76 a. No. 34. Upper Hill Street, Leicester. SARAH LORD. Head. Um. 28. Glove Hand. Born Countesthorpe. Annie Weldon. Lodger. 32. Um. Glove Stitcher. Born Hull Lincolnshire. ********************** I Think George and Sarah Married at St. George's Church. Being the nearest Church to Upper Charles St. Which I don't have the records..... Was that Marriage date of 1858 RIGHT ? :0/ Only I found a Marriage for Sarah Ann Lord Dec. Qrt. 1868. Leicester. 7a. 471. MIKE.

Thank you Mike for taking the trouble of looking for Mallens in Leicester. Why didn't I think of checking the phone book? Must have had my blonde hair on! Best wishes Janet

Greeting's Again Lynn. * SINKER MAKER - made wheels used in spinning industry upon which yarn was wound...... Not found any marriage details yet...:0( Conformation of Burial Welford Road Cemetery :- GEORGE TURNER BROWN. AGE 72. 7th. Jan. 1887. last Address Upper Charles St. St. George Parish. Unconsecrated Ground. Section E. Plot No. 570. Mode. F = Free Common Land. Burial No. 58948. I'll see what I can find re Sarah Ann Lord now .... MIKE.

yes mike thats the browns well some of them!!!! i found abraham in 1851 at millington street leics living with joseph anthony no sighn of sarah ann then she would have been 13 once again many thanks [what is a sinker maker??] lynn

Greeting’s Again Lynn…… Pheww……… not as easy as we thought but I think this is them ? :- EYES DOWN !!!!!!……… 1861. Scanned Census Images. RG9 2285 / Page. 83. 29, Upper Charles Street. Leicester. George. T. Brown Head, Mar.47. Master Sinker Maker. born Leicester. Eliza. Wife. 45. Born Warwick. Mary A. Giffin. Vist. Mar.25. Straw Bonnet Maker. Born. Leicester. Frances J. Brown. Son. Mar. 23. Sinker Maker. Born Leicester. Valentine Brown. Son. Um. 21. Frame Smith. Born Leicester. GEORGE T. BROWN. Son. Um. 18. Frame Smith. Born. Leicester. Eliza Brown. Dau. Um. 15. Frame Fitter. Cotton. Born Leicester. Wilfred Brown. Dau.12. Errand Girl.Born Leicester. Betsy Brown. 10. Scholar. Born Leicester. William Brown. Son 8. Scholar. Born Leicester. Andrew Brown. Son. 4. Scholar. Born Leicester. Alfred Brown. Son. 2. Scholar. Born. Leicester. James Brown. Son. 3 Months. Born Leicester. Eliza Giffin. Vist. 9 Months. Born Surrey. London. ***************************************** Sorry No sign of Sarah Ann Lord living with them But with all that lot I’m not surprised.. lol :0))) I’ve printed that lot off ***************************************** Sarah must be still at Countesthorpe until Wedding (I’ve looked up Lords of Countesthorpe before) Sue Hare ( member on here) would be interested. Give me some time I’ll see if I can find the Wedding details That should tell me if she was in Charles Street or Countesthorpe…. Hopefully latter or tomorrow...... MIKE.

Mike, Thanks so much for that - 56 Belgrave Gate is the address the family were also showing at in 1851 - with Thomas Snaith much younger than his wife. Another contact thinks she found John Butler's widowed father next door but one?? Her copy seems to have been more difficult to read than yours? HO 604/19 ED 37 fo 18 p 28 Belgrave Gate, Leicester St. Margaret's Henry BUTL (?) 70 Shoe Maker Yes in hsehld of J(oseph) - 37 - Shoe Maker - and Sarah LANE - 30 - both Yes with Phobe BIGGS and Mary DRAYCOTT (F.S.s??) See you Thursday!! Thanks, Maggie

thanks mike i have sarah ann lord who married francis brown in 1859 she was born countesthorpe leics on the cert that i have it gives her father as abraham lord a needlemaker born canterbury kent??? francis was the son of george turner brown both of them lived charles street when they married george was born leicester 1815 i have also have two deaths for george turner brown both burried welford road valentine brown is another family name sorry the dump all this on you but was told you were the man to help !!!!!!!!lynn

Hi Mike I hope so, when I blew up the image I thought it might be Hurst so it's a good omen!!! Will look into 'The Hursts' now as on Albert's wedding certificate William Ward and Eliza Stretton are the witnesses so I have a good feeling about this lead Elaine

Greeting's Again Lynn... I've just looked on the 1851. Census there is a.... Charles Hart Brown aged 24. Painter at 39, Upper Charles street is this the one ? MIKE..... ELAINE..... Do you think we've hit it on the head then ?....:0)

Hi Mike As ever you are a mine of information and thank you so much for taking the time to look for me. You have a wealth of material at your fingertips which I am grateful for tapping in to. Happy New Year Elaine

Greeting's and Welcome....Lynn. Unfortunately I can't search just on address for that year..:0( I need a first name as well as a surname There are hundreds of Browns and then it only gives me a ref number followed by just Leicester. which I then use to search the full transcript census... Please do come back if you can surply further information and I'll see what can be done for you..... MIKE.

trying to find lord family or brown family 1861 upper charles street leicester thanks lynn

Greeting's & Welcome Wendy...... Have you any other names of Frederick Family please date range 1891~ 1901 ? or do you know what trade he followed ?...... I've tried 1901 but can't find him with the names given........ I've Got a Godrich Family in the next street to Brandon St. in 1891. Census...... Alfred and Mary in Burfield Street. ( Shoe Trade) Did Frederick move to Wales before the Marriage mentioned ? MIKE.