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Greeting's Again Ruth..... ( Sounds like a séance ....lol ) " I have the following." :- 1851. INDEX ONLY Returns for Aylestone. Vol. 10. Index. No. 157. = Aylestone. JORDAN. Thomas. 45. Mary. 54. Mary. 14. NO Hillard's found either in the County ( which Aylestone comes under ) or the City returns....Sorry. MIKE.

Mike - What a star you are. I've spent months trying to get beyond my great grandfather and his mother!! I discovered about a month ago my great grandfather, William Hudson in the workhouse at Stamford in 1851 age 9 and described as a pauper orphan. I presumed then that his mother was dead! I subscribed to Ancestry for 3 months at the end of Nov and when checking William's family in the 1891 census I discovered that one of his daughters was not with the family. I checked her name out and found her staying with Mary Chamberlain who was described as her aunt. Sarah Wigginton was also living with the family and described as mother to the head of the house - Mary a widow. Eventually I found a marriage for a Sarah Hudson - my GG grandmother and when the cert came it showed she had married Jonathan Wiggington in 1854. Both Sarah and Mary were born at Easton on the Hill as was my G grandfather, William. William and I think Mary also were illegitimate. Sorry to bore you with al the details but what you have found has given me plenty more to go on. Wonder if I could ask you another favour? Would you be able to find Sarah Hudson on the 1851 census? Also, could you look for William on the 1861 and 1871 census please? Most of William's children were born at Great Bowden but there is another son who I think was illegitimate who was born at Wansford. Will understand if you haven't the time to check all that. I'm very grateful for what you have already found. Best wishes Jenny

Greeting's Again Jennifer... I now think I can take you back futher....... 1871. Scanned census Images:- RG10 / 3305 / Folder 46 / Page. 34. Main Street. North Luffenham. SARAH WIGGINTON. Head. Widow. 51. Laundress. Born Easton Northamptonshire. William Chamberlain. Lodger. 26. Ag. lab. Born Empingham Rutland. Mary Chamberlain. Wife. 23. Ag. Lab's Wife. Born Easton. Mary A. Dau. 2. Born North Luffenham. Rutland. William J. Son. 7 Months. Born Nth. Luffenham. Rutland. Two doors down :- James Wigginton. Head. Mar. 58. Ag. lab. Born Braunston Rutland. Betsy Wife. 59. Ag. Lab's Wife. Born Oakham Rutland. Sarah's Brother...... ? ******************** 1861. INDEX ONLY Rutland Census Returns :- RG 9 / 2310 / Page. 11. North Luffenham. Jonathan Wigginton.Head. 33. SARAH WIGGINTON. Wife. 40. Emma. Dau. 14. ********************* RG 9 / 2310 / 11. North Luffenham. James Wigginton. Head. 48. Elizabeth. Wife. 49. Isaac. Son. 14. Sarah. Dau. 11. Frances A. Granddaughter. 8 Months. Not too sure if I've put the children with the right Parents as it's Index ref. only. ********************* 1851. INDEX ONLY. Rutland Census Returns :- 2092 / 433. North Luffenham. James Wigginton. Head. 38. Elizabeth. Wife. 39. Zeruiah. Son. 14. Dorcas Dau. 9. Maria. Dau. 7. Isaac. Son. 4. Sarah. Dau. 1. ******************** Think this is James Father ? 2292 /433. North Luffenham. James Wigginton. Head. 72. Frances. Wife. 62. ******************** I think this Easton is in fact Easton -on - the - Hill. 3 miles south west of Stamford. and 6 miles from North Luffenham. which puts it in the County of Northamptonshire. I also saw a Sarah Chamberlain. aged 45. with a Arthur Chamberlain. with Edwin Son. aged 11. in Burley -on -the Hill. Rutland. (1861.) and again in 1851. This might have a clue as to why Sarah was with a Chamberlain Family in 1871 and 1891. ? ? Hope this might help you .... MIKE.

Hi Mike, Unfortunately not been near the computer till now, just thought it would be better to buy otherwise with all the info I want it would be like doing homework-T00 much to ask but your reply made me laugh. With regards to American stuff am in Ancestry but not sure how American census works or when they took theirs but only found the info late yesterday so will pursue tomorrow again. I think you must be right about the still birth, no time , no mention of it etc and it would seem it was not talked about either. Was supposed to meet up with my aunt and uncle Friday to get info but that is on hold till next week so hopefully will come back to you armed with so much info that you will wish I had bought everything I could!!! Elaine

Greeting’s Jennifer……. My Burial disks for Great Bowden only go up to 1891…. Checked disks and only came up with the following :- GREAT BOWDEN HUDSON WILLIAM 12th. APR 1879 5MTHS GREAT BOWDEN HUDSON MARY 17th. FEB 1883 3 Market Harborough :- MARKET HARBOROUGH CHAMBERLAIN CHARLOTTE 15 FEB 1843 51 MARKET HARBOROUGH CHAMBERLAIN JAMES 17 DEC 1859 66 MARKET HARBOROUGH CHAMBERLAIN ADA ELIZA 24 AUG 1870 7MTHS Just checked out Telephone Book 04/05. for Leicestershire…… NO Wigginton’ s in The right Area but there is 8 in the County. HUDSON ’S = 3 in MKT Harborough Area. CHAMBERLAIN ‘ S = ONE in the MKT Harborough Area. Do you wish me to check early census returns = 41,51,61, for Bowden ? MIKE.

Hi Mike Wondered if you have any info re Great Bowden, Leics? I have found my GG grandmother Sarah Wigginton living there in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census but can't find a date she died. Have also discovered her married daughter Mary Chamberlain living there in the same census. Would love to discover the date she died. Is it possible to find out if there are any Chamberlains still living in Great Bowden? I also wondered if there were any Hudsons Sarah's maiden name?

Greeting’s Again Elaine……. There are several members on this site who are in the states …e.g. “ Crista “ So try clicking on their names and send them a private message with FULL details of what you want. Or…. Do you have full membership to Ancestry ?…. Or….. I’m helping a Canadian friend from another site at the moment maybe they can help ? (1942 was a good year …lol ) Re time on cert ?... Usually they DO put the time when it’s a multi birth. But I’ve heard before that if one is still born then they don’t.. So I’m to get the “Sack” then if your purchasing census disks…? :0(( Must remember to stock up on my “ Prozac “ for this coming week-end then…..:0))) By the way I’ve had another thought on that “ R.D. “ Could it mean = Road ? ( someone forgot to put it on cert ) MIKE.

Thanks Mike, I always ask questions even if they sound silly and I thought it was funny too!!! going on from there is there any way I can find them in the States before 1901. I did get my mum's birth cert as she was a twin born 1942, the baby was stillborn so would there be a record that time, nothing is on my mums cert. Rest assured will try and find some more anecdotes as I am off work this week and spending lots of time on the computer, think I should purchase some census discs as I am becoming addicted!!! Hello to all today Elaine

Greeting's Again...... Elaine. Sorry but been laughing my hat off here...lol :0)) Seeing that he made elastic web Maybe he forgot to let go that's why he behaved like a Yo -Yo back and forward to the States ? .......lol . :0)) No..... Seriously He may have been sent over there by his company to show um how it's done? The " India " relates to Indian Rubber Company or not the common rubber stuff R. D. = Rural District. MIKE.

Thanks Mike, Just a shot in the dark but any ideas why an elastic web weaver might have gone to USA 1890's, certainly his wife gave birth there and they are back 1901? Also why would he have India above his profession? I'm asking for a lot are'nt I !!! Elaine Ok one more, on an uncle's birth cert in col 1 after writting an address he's put R.D. does that mean anything

Greeting's Again Elaine...... I think you'll find this site is what you want I have all of his maps for old Leicester..... :- www (.)alangodfreymaps(.) (co)(.) uk Remove the brackets... Available from Leicester & Rutland Family History Society Book Shop 100, High Street. Leicester These are the same ones as mentioned by Wendy £2.10p. when I got them. Four to the set.. MIKE.

Elaine i did ask in WH Smiths about old maps, ordanance survey (something like that) i was told they went in districts such as south west etc .so you could try there theywere not very expensive either , which makes a change .Wendy

Can anyone recommend a map where I can place rels with the addresses I have rangeing 1871 to 1901 which would take in most streets, am not really sure if any have been renamed! Elaine

Mike, Thanks for all the help so far, still can't find Albert but will keep going Elaine

Greeting's Again Ruth...... There was loads of them Dilks..... But think this is what your after :- HO107 / 603 / 12 / Page. 7. Thornton Village. Thomas Dilks. Head. 59. Publican. MARTHA. Wife. 55. JOHN. Son. 30. Carpenter. Charles. Son. 20. Bricklayer. looks like these are also living with above :- they all follow on beneath each other from Charles. William Dilks. 20. Bricklayer. Mary. Wife. 20. Now a mystery ? ??? tha. 20. (in male column) although it looks like Martha. Thomas. 16. Bricklayer. Elizabeth. 14. William. 12. Ann. 10. Sorry I can't be clearer... But if it was one of the Pubs within the Village then I would think they would all fit in..... I see also a Thomas Dilks Aged 16. also a Publican further on into the census returns .... Hope this is of help ..... MIKE.

Mike Thanks for the info and your help. Wendy

Clough...Clough...Splutter...... Gasp..... 1841. Scanned Census Images. HO107 / 604 / 10 / Page. 41. Pike Street.Leicester.( St. Margaret's ) Samuel Stretton. Head. 65. F.W.K. Lousie. Wife. 56. Seamer. Charles. Son. 18. John. Son. 14. lab. All Born within the County *********************** OTHER STRETTON'S FOUND. HO107 / 604 / 09 / Page. 11. Metcalf Street. ( St. Margaret's. ) Joseph Stretton. Head. 20. Stocking maker. Catherine. Wife. 20. Alice. Dau. 1. All Born within the County. *********************** HO107 / 604 / 09 / Page. 40. Pike Street. ( St. Margaret's. ) Samuel Stretton. 35. F.W.K. Sarah. Wife. 21. Sarah. Dau. 6 Months. All Born within the County. ************************ BURIALS FOUND. Welford Road Cemetery. SAMUEL STRETTON. 19th. Sept. 1855. Aged. 80. Last address Metcalf Street. Consecrated Ground. Section. " F " Plot No. 247. Common Freehold Grave. Burial No. 3086. ******************** LUCY STRETTON. 21st. Nov. 1876. Aged. 86. Last Address. Lewin Street. (Round the corner from Metcalf Street. ) Consecrated Ground. Same plot No. and details as Samuel. Burial No. 18196. MIKE.

LOL Mike I'll get the life belt ready ,you really are what they say A STAR!! Thanks again.Wendy

" No Problems."...... Wendy. MIKE. Dives into 1841.....PLOP If not out within the week call international rescue Please ....lol :0))

Sorry Mike to confuse you but i'm rather new at this Bev usually does it for me.,its Leicester i want it could be St Margs .parish as we know they were at Metcalf St. hope this is a bit more helpful.Thanks again. Wendy