Genealogy Chat

Hi Mike Could you look up 1861 for me as well please.Henry Norton Birth 1827 Middlesex London and Ann Birth 1825 Whitwick I think they will be living in Gadsby as it says on 1871 census or Cadeby from when you looked on 1881 and 1891 census before.I have got emmas birth certificate and it says mother Hannah Norton no father so i just want to check ive got right family Thankyou. Bev Elaine ive also got Robinsons in my family but no Alfred up to now.

Hi Mike Hoping to catch you for a look up in 1861 again. Am following my Warrens around and am looking for an Alfred Robinson 25 who maybe married to a Sophia 22, they seem to have taken over the house in Foundry Road, this is the house you found on the 1861 census with 2 families next to each other. They are both from Leicester and stay within St. Margarets parish. Not sure if Sophia is a Powell! Her full name is Sophia Maria, middle name is missed off one census. Elaine

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Morning Mike, No wonder you need the prozac, read through and realised Mary Ann was with her son William 18mths!!! so it all well and truly makes sense this morning.

Hi Bev, Got to sign off now, here's to more connections and lots of success!!! Elaine

Hi Mike, Now it all makes sense, thank you for all that info. I think I learn something new everyday, will recheck 1871 to see who is in both houses, Elaine

hi Elaine Ive lived in Leicester all my life Bev

Greeting's Again Elaine..... Passes over the big jar of " Prozac's "..... Re:- Visitor 18 Months. In the column " Relationship to Head " = Visitor. In The Column " Age" = 18 Months. JD..... The Family was spead over the two Houses confirmed by the Census oblique slashes \\ = end and start of Houshold. \ = change of surname / or another Familyof the same name within the hosehold. hope that clears that one up ? " Giz us me prozac's back M'Duck " ....lol :0))) MIKE.

Hi Bev, Just curious as to where you live, I have to confess that although born in Leicester, once my Nan died in 1972 I had no family to stay with in the hols so Leicester is unfamiliar to me now and after moving a bit I am now in Nottingham. Hopefully will relearn Leicester a bit now. Hi Mike Thanks for that, Thomas Powell is the name of Mary Ann Warren's father, is there not a head of the household at no.26 and why does it say visitor 18 mths? (you had better pop 2 prozac) Where do you think Fredrick Warren 3 is ??? No. 26 stays in the family as later this is where the Worris' are looking after William, Susannah and Martha (none of whom have married) and 2 of the Warren children Elaine

Hi Elaine Our relations keep meeting up Peter Gilford on 1861 with William warren was my great great grandfather Bev

Greeting's Again Elaine...... 1861. Scanned Census Images :- RG 9 / 2298 / Page 88. St. Augustine Friars. Leicester. (Which would be West Bridge now days) Boats mored by Canal. " Black Diamond " William Warren. Mar. 37. Boat Master. b. Blisworth. Northampton. Peter Gilford. 14. Boatman. b. Ilkeston Derbyshire. Joseph Marston. 15. Boatman. b. Leicester. John Brewin. 17. Boatman. b. Leicester. ************************ RG 9 / 2290 /Page 54. 24~26 Foundry Lane Leicester. Amos Porter. Head. 27. Ag. Lab. b. Swinford Leicestershire. Mary. Wife. 33. Ag. Lab's Wife.b. Rothley Leicestershire. George.Henry.Son. 6. Scholar. b. Quorndon. Leicestershire. John James.Son. 3. b. Belgrave. Leicester. Amos. Son. 1. b. Belgrave. Leicester. No. 26 :- William Powell. Son. 17. Apprentice. Elizabeth Ditto. Dau. 15. Cordwindeer. Sarah. Ditto. Dau. 13. Ditto. Martha Ditto. Dau. 9. Scholar. Susannah. Ditto. Dau. 6. Ditto. MARY ANN WARREN. Visitor. Mar. 25. WILLIAM WARREN. Visitor. 18 Months. ALL Born within the Parish of St. Margaret's Church. Umm.... could "Mary Porter" have been married before ? ? Also all those Villages are on the Grand Union Canal Waterway..... ******************* " Takes Prozac out the cabinet.... AGAIN !!! ".....:0( MIKE.

Thanks Bev, The 1871 census is the one that got me asking Mike to check earlier for me, boy are there a lot of them around and about and am meeting my uncle Thursday now to try and find out more. Am really enjoying talikng to everyone and finding stuff, just wish I could help someone a bit myself. Off out now reluctantly but will check in soon Elaine

Hi Elaine Here they are on 1871 Census Preston on the hill Cheshire William head 47 Northampton Mary Ann wife 34 leicestershire Frederick son 13 Leicestershire William son 11 Leicestershire Thomas son 7 Leicestershire Ellen daughter 2 Derbyshire Mary Ann 2 months Staffordshire Bev

Hi Mike, Keep the prozac to hand please!!! The Worris' are from Sheffield but that's for another day. Wondered if you could have a look on the 1861 census to see if William Warren 37 from Nothampton is around, he is the boatmaster/boatman I mentioned before married to Mary Ann Warren 24 from Leicester, am not sure if there is a son William Warren who could be 1 Elaine

Greeting's Elaine... Re :- WORRIS None to be found in City or County of Leicestershire. 51.61,81.91. There are just 3 on the 81. and they all live in Hampshire Aged 82,65,28. MIKE. P.S. Can I put the " Prozac " back in the cabinet now ?....lol :0))

Thanks Mike, That's just what I needed. Preston Brook is in Cheshire, found them in 1871 there and one of the addresses on a marriage between a Powell and a Warren finds one of the children back in Leicester with possibly another brother who I had not found before, all at one of the addresses you gave me at the start of this. Another surname has popped up from this - Worris- so lots to do but will have to wait as back to work tomorrow (probably should say Morris!!!). Thanks ever so Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine.... I've just given you a link on your other thread which will hopefully answer your enquiry re Webb wavering...... Boatmaster.... Not too sure but I think he either owned the boat.... or He /She had total responsibility for the crew. . . . And I've see pictures were the whole family are employed on board.... (lock gates, horse handlers, loading and unloading) Is " Preston Brook " in Leicestershire ? MIKE.

Hi all Can someone tell me what an elastic web weaver actually was please? Also found part of my family on a boat at a place called Preston Brook whilst a couple of other siblings were with family elsewhere and even another child on another boat. My rels occupation then was boatmaster not just boatman. Can you tell me exactly what that was and did family travel with them while they worked? Elaine

Greeting’s Again Deborah…. No sign of Lucy Newell on the 1901. Census Returns. ( But she may have married and so changed her name )…. But did find Eli Newell. ……:- Charlotte Hill 46 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Sister Cosby Leicestershire Edith H Hill 23 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, Sister Cosby Leicestershire Walter Hill 27 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Head Cosby Leicestershire William Hill 37 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Brother Cosby Leicestershire Eli Newell 69 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Cousin Cosby Leicestershire Eliza Newell 34 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Cousin Cosby Leicestershire Harriett Sewell 7 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Niece Cosby Leicestershire Mabel M Sewell 4 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England This MAYBE Mary Newell ? :- RG 13 / 2956 / Folder. 12. / Page. 16. Paradise Road. Blaby. George Newell. 38. Farm lab. Born Littlethorpe. Mary. Newell. Wife. 36. Born Cosby. George. A. Son. 6. Born Littlethorpe. Sarah. A. Dau. 5. Born Littlethorpe Rose. S. Dau. 4. Born Littlethorpe. MIKE.

Greeting’s Again …Deborah. Yes I thought the name rang a bell with me but the last time I was asked to help find this person. I only had Index details at the time. But thing’s have moved on since then SO…… 1891. Scanned Census Return Image :- RG 12 /500 / Page 48. Littlethorpe. Close to “ The Plough Inn. “ Joshua Newell. Widow.68. Labourer. Eli Newell. Brother. 59. Labourer. Eliza Newell. Grand Daughter. 24. Charwoman. LUCY NEWELL. Grand Daughter. 7. Scholar. ( LUCEY ON THE INDEX Disk ) All Born in Littlethorpe. Leicestershire. *************************************** Here is MARY NEWELL ( Mother to Lucy) In 1881. :- Dwelling: Near Fosse Road (Little Thorpe Lodge) Census Place: Cosby, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341746 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3128 Folio 61 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Benjamin J. HAINES M 35 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Farmer (Acres 1 Man) Eleanor HAINES M 37 F Nottingham, England Rel: Wife Occ: Farmers Wife Eleanor L. HAINES 8 F Tur Langton, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mary J.T. HAINES 7 F Tur Langton, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Charlotte HAINES 5 F Tur Langton, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Lucy M. HAINES 3 F Leicester, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Margaret M. HAINES 1 F Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Benjamin J. HAINES 2 w M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Son MARY A. NEWELL U 17 F Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Servant Occ: General Servant. **************************** Umm…….. Maybe Mary was not married when Lucy came along…… That’s why Mary didn’t give the Name of the father then ? Or maybe he was away at the Wars at this time ( Boer & Sudan Wars) ? And there was not a census in between the know dates we have. So we’ll not know how long Lucy has been with Joshua. ? Maybe Mary married at a latter time ? I’ll have a look on the 1901. latter on today and see if I can find anything ? …… MIKE…………Time to Blows out the candle…… <3