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Thank you Mike for your time and trouble Bev

Greeting's Again Susie...... Only Irons showing in Lutterworth :- HO107 / 598 / 14 / Page. 8. High Street. Lutterworth. John Irons. 40. Ironmonger. Not born within the County. Sarah. Wife. 45. Sarah. Dau. 7. Walter. Son. 5. Ellen. Dau. 1. Other than John all born within the County. Sorry NO " etty " found .... Even tried Church-over. Warwickshire returns for 1841. but drew a blank. MIKE.

Hi I, like Beverly Wittering am looking at George Henry Grant and Sarah Ann. Trying to find Sarah's Maiden name. The married in Leicester and were born in 1845. Their children were Henry, Florence, Albert, George, Edith, Thomas, Alice and Bertha. WOuld be great if any one can help! Thanks Louise

Hi all, Mike, going back to Albert Victor Ward, have found out he was an army reserveman, is there anything I can use from this info to try and find him before writting for army records maybe (this is the one I was told was in India and cannot find him1891 and 1901) This info is on my nan's birth cert 1900 Elaine

hiya mike thankyou once again for your help i will make a note of these anyway susie

I've found an ancestor on 1901 cenus living in some sort of institution in Ibstock/ ratby. The relationship to head of house is stated as 'inmate of ind school committed by magistrate'. Does anyone know if this is some sort of reform school or an orphanage? The boy is question was only 10 at the time and his father had died, i can't trace his mothers and sisters on the census Paula

Greeting's And Welcome Paula...... Umm ..." Botcheston House "... comes to mind.. Situated on the outskirts of the Village of Botcheston.. Which is 2.7 Miles SW of Ratby.... and 2.1 Miles SE of Thornton... On the road from Newtown Unthank.... I delivered Milk there back in the 70's... It was a Mental Hospital then..But now has been made into a retirement Village.... " Kirby Grange " MIKE.

Greeting's Again Elaine...... (Pops a Prozac in........ )...lol :0))) 1880 ~1881. 1st Boer War. 1896. ~97. Sudan War. 1899. ~ 1902. 2nd Boer War. That might answer some of your reasons why you can't find him. I think if it was me then I'd write off and see if you can obtain any Amy records for him...... MIKE.

Elaine Theres a thread on tips board Boar war Bev

Hi all, Have been keeping track on the threads board and checked out the site mentioned. Some interesting stuff there and comments about needing to know regiments etc so guess I will need to request from the army now, found a site that lists wars after someone left me a message just in case anyone is interested: thanks to all again Elaine

Greeting's Again Louise & Beverly.... Sorry drew a blank on the marriage of George & Sarah Grant. But have you thought of ordering any one of the following Children's birth certificate ? (Ages taken from 1881. Census.) Oct Quarter. 1868. EDITH GRANT. Leicester. Cert No. 7 a. 175. ************* July Quarter. 1880. GEORGE GRANT. Leicester. Cert No. 7 a. 231. ************* Hopefully either will give Sarah Ann's maiden name. MIKE.

Greeting’s And Welcome……. Deborah. I shall take all my finding’s based on this 1881. Census Return…… Dwelling: 39 Biddulph St Census Place: Leicester St Margaret, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341753 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3159 Folio 117 Page 27 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George TILLSON M 28 M Stony Stanton, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Frame Work Knitter Jane TILLSON M 26 F Northampton, England Rel: Wife Occ: Shoe Machinist Sarah TILLSON U 5 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Richard TILLSON U 3 M Leicester, England Rel: Son Mary J. CARTER U 9 F Leeds, York, England Rel: Niece Occ: Scholar. (Biddulph Street was a stones throw away from where I was born Mere Road) ***************************** 1851. INDEX ONLY Census returns…… Vol. 6 Index No.’s 15 ~ 28 = Stoney Stanton. TILLSON. 18…… Jane. 42. (Mother to George) “ …. Amy. 14. “ .. Ann. 4. “ … John. 16. NO other details given. *************** 1861. Scanned census Return. RG 9 / 2259 / Page. 126. Stoney Stanton. “ The Blue Bell Inn. “ Richard Wood. Head. Publican. Charlotte. Wife. Publican’s Wife. Jane Tillson. Head. Mar. 51. Washerwoman. Born Desford. Leicestershire. John. Son Um. 24. Stocking Frame Knitter. Born Desford. Ann. Dau. Um. 15. Seamer of Stockings. Born Desford. GEORGE TILLSON. Son. 7. Seamer of Stockings. Born Stoney Stanton. *********************** 1871. NO SIGN OF ANY OF THEM TO BE CERTAIN. *************************************** 1881. See 1st Census of this message. ************************************** 1891. Scanned Census returns. RG12 / 2525 / Page 29. 22, Chandos Street, Leicester. George Tillson. Head. Mar.38. Frame Work Knitter. Born Stoney Stanton. Jane. Wife. 36. Machinist ( Hosiery ) Born Northampton. Sarah. Dau. 15. Machinist. Born Leicester. (St.Margaret’s Parish.) Richard. Son. 13. ( Blank) Born Leicester. ( St. Margaret’s Parish.) Bertha. Helen. Dau. 7. Scholar. Born Leicester. (St. Margaret’s ) ********************* Seeing Jane hails from Northampton. maybe thats where he was in 1871. and married there ? Now I’ll see what I can make of “ Lucy Newell “ I seem to remember I have looked into this one before ….? But I’ll see what comes up. MIKE.

Greeting’s Again …Deborah. Yes I thought the name rang a bell with me but the last time I was asked to help find this person. I only had Index details at the time. But thing’s have moved on since then SO…… 1891. Scanned Census Return Image :- RG 12 /500 / Page 48. Littlethorpe. Close to “ The Plough Inn. “ Joshua Newell. Widow.68. Labourer. Eli Newell. Brother. 59. Labourer. Eliza Newell. Grand Daughter. 24. Charwoman. LUCY NEWELL. Grand Daughter. 7. Scholar. ( LUCEY ON THE INDEX Disk ) All Born in Littlethorpe. Leicestershire. *************************************** Here is MARY NEWELL ( Mother to Lucy) In 1881. :- Dwelling: Near Fosse Road (Little Thorpe Lodge) Census Place: Cosby, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341746 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3128 Folio 61 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Benjamin J. HAINES M 35 M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Farmer (Acres 1 Man) Eleanor HAINES M 37 F Nottingham, England Rel: Wife Occ: Farmers Wife Eleanor L. HAINES 8 F Tur Langton, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mary J.T. HAINES 7 F Tur Langton, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Charlotte HAINES 5 F Tur Langton, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Lucy M. HAINES 3 F Leicester, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Margaret M. HAINES 1 F Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Daur Benjamin J. HAINES 2 w M Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Son MARY A. NEWELL U 17 F Littlethorpe, Leicester, England Rel: Servant Occ: General Servant. **************************** Umm…….. Maybe Mary was not married when Lucy came along…… That’s why Mary didn’t give the Name of the father then ? Or maybe he was away at the Wars at this time ( Boer & Sudan Wars) ? And there was not a census in between the know dates we have. So we’ll not know how long Lucy has been with Joshua. ? Maybe Mary married at a latter time ? I’ll have a look on the 1901. latter on today and see if I can find anything ? …… MIKE…………Time to Blows out the candle…… <3

Greeting’s Again Deborah…. No sign of Lucy Newell on the 1901. Census Returns. ( But she may have married and so changed her name )…. But did find Eli Newell. ……:- Charlotte Hill 46 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Sister Cosby Leicestershire Edith H Hill 23 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, Sister Cosby Leicestershire Walter Hill 27 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Head Cosby Leicestershire William Hill 37 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Brother Cosby Leicestershire Eli Newell 69 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Cousin Cosby Leicestershire Eliza Newell 34 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Cousin Cosby Leicestershire Harriett Sewell 7 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England Niece Cosby Leicestershire Mabel M Sewell 4 Littlethorpe, Leicestershire, England This MAYBE Mary Newell ? :- RG 13 / 2956 / Folder. 12. / Page. 16. Paradise Road. Blaby. George Newell. 38. Farm lab. Born Littlethorpe. Mary. Newell. Wife. 36. Born Cosby. George. A. Son. 6. Born Littlethorpe. Sarah. A. Dau. 5. Born Littlethorpe Rose. S. Dau. 4. Born Littlethorpe. MIKE.

Hi all Can someone tell me what an elastic web weaver actually was please? Also found part of my family on a boat at a place called Preston Brook whilst a couple of other siblings were with family elsewhere and even another child on another boat. My rels occupation then was boatmaster not just boatman. Can you tell me exactly what that was and did family travel with them while they worked? Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine.... I've just given you a link on your other thread which will hopefully answer your enquiry re Webb wavering...... Boatmaster.... Not too sure but I think he either owned the boat.... or He /She had total responsibility for the crew. . . . And I've see pictures were the whole family are employed on board.... (lock gates, horse handlers, loading and unloading) Is " Preston Brook " in Leicestershire ? MIKE.

Thanks Mike, That's just what I needed. Preston Brook is in Cheshire, found them in 1871 there and one of the addresses on a marriage between a Powell and a Warren finds one of the children back in Leicester with possibly another brother who I had not found before, all at one of the addresses you gave me at the start of this. Another surname has popped up from this - Worris- so lots to do but will have to wait as back to work tomorrow (probably should say Morris!!!). Thanks ever so Elaine

Greeting's Elaine... Re :- WORRIS None to be found in City or County of Leicestershire. 51.61,81.91. There are just 3 on the 81. and they all live in Hampshire Aged 82,65,28. MIKE. P.S. Can I put the " Prozac " back in the cabinet now ?....lol :0))

Hi Mike, Keep the prozac to hand please!!! The Worris' are from Sheffield but that's for another day. Wondered if you could have a look on the 1861 census to see if William Warren 37 from Nothampton is around, he is the boatmaster/boatman I mentioned before married to Mary Ann Warren 24 from Leicester, am not sure if there is a son William Warren who could be 1 Elaine

Hi Elaine Here they are on 1871 Census Preston on the hill Cheshire William head 47 Northampton Mary Ann wife 34 leicestershire Frederick son 13 Leicestershire William son 11 Leicestershire Thomas son 7 Leicestershire Ellen daughter 2 Derbyshire Mary Ann 2 months Staffordshire Bev