Genealogy Chat

Robert -

There's some sort of fault with the GR website today - it won't let me open your PM to me.

Nor will it let me send you a PM to tell you about this!

I hope it's just a temporary blip, and not something else stopped working on GR.

I'll let you know if/when I'm able to open your message.

EDIT:

It may be a problem with your message rather than with GR as a whole, as I see I'm able to open PMs from other people.
You haven't cancelled your membership, or deleted the message, have you?

Maybe try sending your message again, in the hope it works on a second attempt.

EDIT again:

Thanks Robert - I'll pass your address on to the tree owners.
There's no guarantee that they'll contact you, of course - good luck!

Robert -
if you'll send me a PM to let me know your email address, I'll send it on to the two tree owners and ask them to contact you.

Thank you patchem and Argy/Gran for all the information you have posted. I would be most appreciative if you could contact the tree owner on my behalf as I do not have a subscription to Ancestry.
Robert

Oh, I didn't notice it.

Well, that's that sorted, then - thank goodness!
Good find, Patchem.

ArgyllGran,

I posted this previously, as it looks to be her:

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https://www.identitynumber.org/death-notices-results.php?surname=SCOULAR

South African death records:
Full Names Surname Year of Birth View More
MARY TOWNSEND SCOULAR 1904 Click Here for More Information

Robert -

I understand Patchem has sent you a private message to let you know we've found a lot of info re Mary's family.

It's frustrating that we haven't been able to find out anything about Mary after her marriage.
If Ian is able to tell you anything about her, perhaps you'll come back to this thread and let us know?

Mary's brother George?
Marrige from scotlandspeople:
KELLER GEORGE RUDOLPH
SAWERS ISABELLA CATHER
1946
644/12 252 252 Maryhill

George, Helen and Isabella (George's wife not mother?) are together at Burnbank Gardens in 1947.

Her birth:
SAWERS ISABELLA CATHER
1915
644/13 485 Kelvin

Death??
For information if nothing else,
Mrs Isabella Keller
Gender: Female
Age: 88
Birth Date: 1915
Death Date: 20 Aug 2003
Residence Place at Death: Portrush, Antrim, Northern Ireland
Postal Code District: Bt56

Well, even though we can't find what happened to Mary after her marriage to James Scoular, at least you do know that her nephew Ian is on a couple of private trees on Ancestry, Robert.

If you don't have a sub to Ancestry and would like one of us to contact the tree owners on your behalf, please let us know.

Just for good measure - though it doesn't help the hunt for Mary:

In 1911, James W Scoular (Mary's future husband - assuming he's the one born in Camlachie 1910)), was living in Camlachie, Glasgow, with John (29), Janet (30), and Edward (19).

I assume Janet and John were his parents and Edward his uncle.

Or maybe Edward was his father, and Janet & John his uncle and aunt.

I haven't used credits to see the image, so can't see the relationships.

1901?
Bella N Macphail
Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Mother's name: Helen B Macphail
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilsyth, stirlingshire
Registration Number: 644/4 Registration district: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow St James County: Lanarkshire
Address: 8 Monteith Row
Occupation: Dressmaker
ED: 16 Household schedule number: 19 LINE: 8 Roll: CSSCT1901_280
Helen B Macphail 67
Wilhelmine Macphail 42
Hugh B Macphail 38
Emma E Macphail 36
Charles C Macphail 34
Bella N Macphail 31
John Taylor 69

Added:
Just realised I said I would not post lots of censuses, so will stop.

Husband is cooking tea, so:
1881 census, just for background
Isabella N S Morgan MacPhail Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship: Daughter
Father's name: Hugh B MacPhail
Mother's name: Helen H Taylor MacPhail
Gender: Female Where born: Kilsyth, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Bridgeton Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire Address: ?? Newhall Ter

Hugh B MacPhail 63
Helen H Taylor MacPhail 46
Helen Buchanan MacPhail 24
Williamina Ewing MacPhail 22
John Mc Gavin MacPhail 20
Hugh Buchanan MacPhail 18
Emma Edmonstone MacPhail 16
Charles Dickens MacPhail 14
Isabella N S Morgan MacPhail 11
Parish: Glasgow Barony; ED: 40; Page: 1; Line: 9; Roll: cssct1881_215

Time to stop - I'll leave you to it!

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Isabella Nicol Sydney Morgan Mcphail
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 15 May 1869
Birth Place: Kilsyth,Stirling,Scotland
Father: Hugh BUCHANAN Mcphail
Mother: Helen H. Taylor
FHL Film Number: 6035516

Yes, that'll be it - although a few years earlier than suggested by 1911 census.

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Birth
MACPHAIL ISABELLA NICOL F
1869
483/ 134 Kilsyth

Added:
We crossed again. :-)

Well done, patchem!
Another good mis-spelling of Townsend! (Tonnseur)

I wonder what Moepkail really is.

Maybe this ??

MARSHALL
ISABELLA YOUNG
F
1878
483/ 159
Kilsyth

Elleanor Ernestine Keller
Event Type Birth Event Date 08 Feb 1906
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender Female Race White
Father's Name Rudolph Keller Father's Birthplace Poland
Father's Age 29
Mother's Name Isabella Macpheil Mother's Birthplace Scotland
Mother's Age 31

Isabella Keller
Event Type Birth Event Date 10 Mar 1908
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender Female Race White
Father's Name Rudolph Keller Father's Birthplace Russia
Father's Age 33
Mother's Name Isabella Mechhail Keller Mother's Birthplace Scotland
Mother's Age 34

From igi

New York City Births
Name Mary Tonnseur Keller
Event Type Birth Event Date 29 Apr 1904
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Father's Name Rudolph Keller Father's Birthplace Ozorkorv, Poland, Russia
Father's Age 29
Mother's Name Isabella N. S. M. Moepkail Mother's Birthplace Kilsyth, Stirling, Thare, Scotland Mother's Age 29

I agree that it means Townsend, and that it is only for Mary as a middle name as I, and ancestry, misread the twiddley bits.

I think "Towsit" only applies to Mary, and is probably a mis-spelling or abbreviation of Townsend.