Genealogy Chat

Hi Bev, Finally I may have been able to help you after all you have done for me! Could this be your guy? Name: Guildford, Peter Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1846 District: Basford County: Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Volume: 15 Page: 508 And from Genuki: Basford Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Nottinghamshire, but included parts of Derbyshire. Sub-districts : Basford; Bulwell; Carlton; Greasley; Ilkeston; Wilford. GRO volumes : XV (1837-51); 7b (1852-1930). Codnor and Loscoe, Codnor Park, Heanor, Ilkeston, Shipley. Registers now divided between Basford, Nottingham, Rushcliffe, Mansfield, Erewash and East Retford districts. Good luck Sarah

Thanks Mike There's another job for me tomorrow!!! Cheers as ever Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine.... Ummm .....Thinking aloud here.... Blisworth Northamptonshire...Was a birth place ?...... ' Stoke Bruerne ' ( Canal Museum ) comes to mind.... Seeing it's only 3 miles from Blisworth maybe that's where the Owner of the Boat operated from ? If you type ' Stoke Bruerne' into your search engine then there is loads of links to interesting sites...... Then a letter to see if they might have lists of old owners ? MIKE. Have

Hi Mike Thanks for your e-mail, need to pick your brains again. Have been talking to someone who specialises in the waterways and she suggested that the company my gggrandfather worked for may have owned houses in Foundry Lane as similar happened in Birmingham when mothers did'nt want to be on the boat when they were about to give birth. If this is right then it gives me the name of the company my William worked for which I could find out by looking at electoral rolls. I have'nt got a clue where to start and thought you would know. We are looking at 1861 I would guess before and after, Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine... I would think ' Bo's un ' Is more appropriate..... seeing he was 27 years old. MIKE.

Thanks Mike, At least I know they were all from Northampton now. Do you think servant is literally that or would apprentice be more appropriate??? Elaine

Greeting’s ……..Elaine. You will see from the coordinates That William was on one boat and the rest of the Family Was on another boat…… In the 1861. Census the name of the boat William Warren & Peter Gilford was on was :- “ BLACK DIAMOND “ Can't see Zachariah on the 1861. to see name of boat....sorry Details from 1851. City of Leicester Census……. 2090 / 388. 260 388 16 16 BOAT ON CANAL ZACHARIAH TIBBS HEAD U 46 M BOATMAN. Born Bugbrock. Northamptonshire. 261 388 16 16 BOAT ON CANAL WILLIAM WARREN SERV U 27 M BOATMAN. Born Blisworth. Northamptonshire. 2090 / 388. 262 388 16 17 BOAT ON CANAL ROBERT WARREN HEAD M 56 M BOATMAN. Born Blisworth. Northamptonshire. 263 388 16 17 BOAT ON CANAL JOHN WARREN SON U 19 M BOATMAN. Born. Blisworth. Northamptonshire. 264 388 16 17 BOAT ON CANAL GEORGE WARREN SON U 22 M BOATMAN. Born Blisworth. Northamptonshire. Sorry I can’t help any further to solve your 1851. problem.…… MIKE.

Thanks Elaine but at the moment im disowning my family and adopting another one. I phoned records office in ilkeston its under erewash now,they said if hes not on 1837 on line or indexes he wasnt registered he was just baptised. I thought ok but then found out mothers maiden name isnt on baptised record and thats what we are after.So now got to get Mother and Fathers marriage and if we cant get down there its going to cost us £11 for half an hours search and ive no idea what year they were married in or if they were married in Ilkeston. So at the momemt im cheesed off. Anyway thanks again Bev Moaning over with lol

BEV Let me know if I can do anything to look up in Nottingham for you, not too near Bulwell!!! MIKE Do you have access to the 1851 Leicester census to find out the name of a boat? All I have are a list of names on a 'boat by the canal' William Warren Serv 27 Robert Warren Head 56 John Warren Son 19 George Warren Son 22 all boatman William is born Blisworth Northampton but not sure about the rest yet,just found them for the first time all together here. Robert is Williams father according to the banns in 1856 and the address given is Foundry Lane as ever. Many thanks Elaine

' Your very Welcome '... But I'm clean out of knee pads for the grovel.....lol :0))

Thanks Mike Bev

Greeting's Again Beverly..... I've had a look on 1837 but drew a blank...:0( I think Ilkeston comes under Basford now Worth a phone call to the Records Office I think...?:- Basford Records Office The Woodlands, Highbury Road, Bulwell, Nottingham, NG6 9DA. Tel: 0115 927 1294. Fax: 0115 977 1845. MIKE.

Hi Ive hit a brick wall can anybody tell me where to go from here. Im trying to find birth of Peter Gilford so i can send for cert Ive tried BMD and my aunts looked on 1837 on line from the years 1844-1848 but with no luck. Can we order cert without ref number. Also we are not sure of dates they keep changing on census, we think its between 1845-1848. His Birth was Ilkeston and at the moment there is no chance of getting to records office down there Thanks Bev

*** FOR THE ATTENTION OF GERALDINE *** Greeting's Again...... I spoke to a Old Scout Friend this afternoon Who was born in and is still living in Copt Oak... He told me that when he was a Church Steward There was a full survey of the graves within the Graveyard and the list was passed onto the Vicar...... So best start writing I think... He also said that ' Warner ' was a old Markfield family name. MIKE.

Hi Bev Have copy of the 1861 census from the Hobson site if you want it, just e-mail me and I will send it through Elaine

Thanks Mike - I did think it might not 'in date'! I appreciate your efforts anyway. Thanks for the info re Ashby churches - I've already looked at St Helen's and Holy Trinity. I'll have to see if any of the family know more! Unfortunately as you see below Ashby reg district covered quite an area - I have looked at parish registers (or at least those at the library) for the most likely ones near Coalville/ Whitwick. Ashby-de-la-Zouch Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Leicestershire, but included parts of Derbyshire. Sub-districts : Ashby-de-la-Zouch; Hartshorn; Measham; Whitwick. GRO volumes : XV (1837-51); 7a (1852-1930). Appleby Magna North (from 1897), Appleby Magna South, Ashby de la Zouch, Ashby Woulds, Bardon (from 1862), Blackfordby, Chilcote (from 1895), Coalville, Coleorton, Donisthorpe (from 1897), Heather, Hugglescote and Donington, Measham (from 1897), Nether Seal (1837-97), Normanton le Heath, Oakthorpe (from 1897), Osgathorpe, Over Seal (1837-97), Packington, Ravenstone, Snarestone, Snibston (from 1884), Staunton Harold, Stretton en le Field (from 1897), Swannington, Swepstone, Thringstone, Whitwick, Willesley (from 1897), Worthington. Registers now divided between Leicestershire and Derby districts.

Greeting's Again Jan...... Owing to THE modern date I'm afraid it didn't come up on any of my disks.....Sorry But did check out those details on the 1837. site. and it stated :- EMILY BURROWS & JOSEPH MOORE. Dec. Qrt. 1926. ASHBY DE LA ZOUCH. 7a 279. (In both names) and that cert No. is for both Emily & Joseph. But did a bit of digging around here are a contact Address for Churches in Ashby De La Zouch..:- no picture Ashby Baptist Church Ashby-de-la-Zouch Contact address: Brook Street Ashby de la Zouch Leicestershire. LE65 1HA Tel:Fax: 01530 413721 ******************* no picture Ashby International Church Ashby-de-la-Zouch Contact address: 17 Bath Street Ashby-De-La-Zouch Leicestershire LE65 2FH ****************** no picture Our Lady of Lourdes Ashby-de-la-Zouch Contact address: Station Road Ashby de la Zouch Leicestershire LE65 2GL ***************** no picture St Helen's Parish Church Ashby-de-la-Zouch Contact address: 1 Church Yard Ashby-de-la-Zouch Leicestershire LE65 1AA Tel:Fax: 01530 412970 ***************** Also Holy Trinity Church but no address for it. Maybe a letter to each Church to find out more details ? MIKE.

Thank you Mike. The elusive couple are Joseph MOORE and Emily BURROWS. Jan

***FOR THE ATTENTION OF GERALDINE *** Just to say Sorry but didn't find a Headstone in the name of Warner over at Copt Oak Church today. Three in the name of Ward though one a 'JP' But plenty of unmarked graves..... Contacts for the Church :- Rector :- Cannon G.T. Willet. Markfield Rectery. 3A The Nook Markfield. Leicestershire. LE 67 9 WE. or Secretary :- Mrs S. Gammon. 18 The Green. Markfield. Leicestershire. LE 67 9 WD. It's a lovely old Church.. (Have pic's if you want them ) But there is a plaque to say that the Village of Copt Oak was due West from where it is today .....Ummm Also there was no where I could find out the Name of the Church...... MIKE. P.S. the Church is St.Peter's.

' TWIT TA WOO ' .....Jan....lol :0)) Have you a name for these Grandparents so I can have a whizz through my disks for the marriage ? MIKE.. . . . O V O