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Greeting's Brenda...... Yes !!! The ages were a Minefield in 1841.!!! .... The enumerator's were under instructions to round DOWN to the nearest multiple of 5 for those over 15. But some of the enumerator's kept to the true age..... Plus they would right down what THEY thought they heard, and spelt names how THEY thought it was spelt. without asking and there again people in those times could not read & write to well ... Hence the Minefield on all fronts .... So I would GO with what you have for the time being .... But if I can help you further please get back to me... MIKE.

Hello Mike, Thank you so much for looking up gg grandather Thomas Wildes for me,and for the results. I am 99% sure you have found his parents. My problem is- 1841 Census Edward Wildes is 30 so born c 1811 1861 Census Edward is 57 so in 20 years he aged 27 years born c 1804. The Edward Wild(different spelling) who died 1869 aged 66 would have been born c1804,so possibly the 1841 census got his age wrong. I am hoping to get back to 1600's as a John Wildes from America wrote to the family trying trace a John Wildes who in the 1600's married a Sarah who was later hung as a witch at the Salem Witch trials in Salem USA. I have adopted her until I find out the connection! Thanks again. Brenda

Hi Mike and the same to you. Am working on the recipe as we speak! Elaine

Greeting's One and All..... Just to wish you all ..... ' A HAPPY EASTER ' MIKE. P.S. Anyone knows who makes ' Prozac Easter Eggs ? ' ....lol :0))

Greeting's and Welcome Brenda..... I think this is your little chap ....... 1841. Scanned Census Image. HO 107 / 594 / Page 19. Village of Hathern. Edward WILDE. 30. Ag. Lab. Not born within the County. Sarah Wife. 35. born within the County. Eleanor. 13. William. 11. Samuel. 8. John. 6. THOMAS. 4. Elizabeth. 2. All but Edward born within the County. © Crown Copyright National Archives. I think this is Edwards' Marriage :- Edward Wilde. ~ Sarah Bradley. Loughborough. 1825. By Banns. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. Then Thomas & Edward goes missing for the 1851. Census. But Parents pop up in 1861... RG 9 / 2276 / 102 / Page 1. Hathern. Edward Wilde Head. 57. Ag. Lab. b Burton. Sarah. Wife. 55. b looks like Belton ? Edward. Son. 18. b Hathern. John. Son. 12. b Hathern. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. and found this burial for Hathern :- Edward Wild 17th. April. 1869. Aged 66. No trace of Sarah on the 1871. But Thomas pops up under new name....... RG 10. / 2906/ Folder. 88. / Page. 29. Burton -upon-Trent. No. 79, Napier Street. Thomas WILDES. 34. Ag. Lab. and Pensioned reserve forces. b. Hathern. Ellen. Wife. b Portsmouth. Sarah. Dau. 5. Scholar. b Shoeburyness Essex. © Crown Copyright National Archives. Seeing he has a pension from the forces Maybe this is why we could not find him ? Looks like he could have been in Hampshire re:- Portsmouth place of birth of his Wife ? Time to blow out the candle me thinks......<3 MIKE.

Hi Mike, You are a remarkable person, you give your time and effort freely to anyone who ask you. Thank you for trying to find my rellies. Cheers Linda

Hello Mike, Could you possibly do a look up for me,my gg grandfather Thomas Wildes does not want to be found!! I believe he was born in Hathern circa 1837 but I have a very strong feeling he was really a Wilde nor Wildes family rumour he changed it to avoid being traced for bigamy! So I have problems in tracing his parents. Can you help?Brenda

Greeting's Again Linda...... You can call yourself which name you like BUT.... You must sign any Legal document with your birth name .. That is if you have not changed it by deed pole. It may have been that when he was giving his details to the Vicar prior to the marriage he told them he was christened Henry but now use William or it was usual that the Vicar didn't make out the certificates so a miss translation by the Parish Clark took place..... Climbs down from soap box...... They Didn't marry at St Margaret's Church as it didn't show on my records......1813.~1897. :0(( So went onto 1837 site ... There is a marriage of a Sarah Ann Jarvis :- Oct-Nov-Dec Qrt. 1876. Leicester. cert No. 7 a. 481. But couldn't match it up to either a Henry or William :0(( Here are the Timson Marriages :- Oct-Nov-Dec Qrt. 1876. Henry Timson Leicester. Cert No. 7 a. 510. Same Qrt. Henry Timson. Leicester. Cert No. 7 a. 430. Oct.-Nov-Dec. Qrt. 1877. William Timson. Leicester. Cert No. 7 a. 435. © Crown Copyright National Archives. So you want the coin to toss up with ? Other Information found :- Christening. Sarah Ann Jarvis. 15th. August. 1858. Thurnby. Father:- Robert Jarvis. Mother:- Catherine. Marriage :- Robert Jarvis. ~ Catherine Mason. 10th. Jan. 1856. Thurnby. Grooms Father. Christopher Jarvis. Brides Father:- James Mason. Notes :- Both of full age.... © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. Sorry I didn't hit the nail on the head his time...:0(( MIKE.

Hi Mike, I would like to thank you for giving the information to find my grandfathers birth, i was looking for William Timson and it was Henry Timson, i have now got is b/cert. I would like to know why on his marr/cert it says William Henry. Well Mike could i be a pain and ask you if you could find any thing about my grtgrfathers marriage, i think he was married in Leicester in 1876/77 and he married Sarah Jarvis who came from Thurnby and this might be importent, his name was William Timson LOL! I would like to know where they were married if possible. Cheers Linda

Greeting's Again Geraldine...... Humble apologies....... Seems Glenfield don't come under 'West Leicester' But it comes under Blaby see below :- Blaby Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Enderby; Wigston; Wigston Magna. GRO volumes : XV (1837-51); 7a (1852-1930). Aylestone (1837-91), Blaby, Braunstone (1837-91), Braunstone Frith, Cosby, Countesthorpe, Croft, East Wigston, Enderby, Foston, Freakes Ground (1862-91), *Glenfield,* Glenfield Frith, Glen Parva, Huncote, Kilby, Kirby Frith, Kirby Muxloe, Knighton (1837-91), Knoll and Bassett House, Leicester Forest East, Leicester Forest West, Lubbesthorpe, Narborough, New Found Pool (1862-91), New Parks (from 1862), Oadby, Potters Marston, Thurlaston, Whetstone, Wigston Magna. Registers now in Leicester district. So did a bit of ferreting and come up with the Following :- Jul.~Aug.~Sept. Qrt. 1845. Hannah Warner. Blaby. Cert No. XV. 55. Again Humble Aplogies.... I should have know as it's still the same today geographically always thought this weired ..... MIKE.

Greeting's again Geraldine..... I'm surprised it's not the right one ? .....:-O What details were wrong ? Glenfield. Should come under ' West Leicester District ' MIKE.

Hi Mike, Thank you for finding out for me, sorry i missed your reply, must give my husband his glasses back. I will keep looking out for some more information on this thread. Cheers. Linda

Mike Many thanks for the two responses. Confusion still exists in that THOMAS b1807 Northants m ANN RENNIE in 1851 but IGI record shows MATILDA TOMKINS christened 24NOV1845 Father Thomas TOMKINS, mother Ann. Regards John

Greeting’s Again John.. This is the only Selina showing :- 1851. Transcriptions City of Leicester. 2089 / 482 / 15 / 68. St. Margaret’s Parish. No. 31, Needle Gate. ( off Sanvey gate) THOMAS TOMKINS HEAD M 31 M FWK. Born Leicester. LEI LEICESTER SELINA TOMKINS WIFE M 35 F WORSTED SPINNER. Born Leicester. LEI LEICESTER And like wise this is the only Tomkin(s) or any variant showing coming from Northampton :- 2089 / 483 / 16 / 71. St. Margaret’s Parish. No. 57, Needle Gate. SAMUEL TOMKINS HEAD M 52 M FWK. Born Kettering. Northampton. ELIZABETH TOMKINS WIFE M 50 F FWK. Blank. ANN TOMKINS DAU U 29 F SEAMER. Born Leicester. JOHN TOMKINS SON U 27 M FWK. Born Ditto. WILLIAM TOMKINS SON U 18 M FWK. Born Ditto. JOSEPH TOMKINS SON 12 M WINDER. Born Ditto. ELIZABETH TOMKINS DAU U 20 F FANCY STITCHER. ( HOSIERY) Born Ditto LOUISA TOMKINS GDAU 11 F SEAMER. Born Ditto. RACHEL TOMKINS DAU 10 F SEAMER. Born Ditto. JAMES TOMKINS SON 8 M WINDER. Born Ditto. AMBROSE TOMKINS SON 6 M Born Ditto. ELIZA TOMKINS GDAU 2 F Born Ditto. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. MIKE.

Greeting's Again...Linda. If you scroll back to page two. and look for my post Dated 13th. March. 2005.(Date of A.G.M.) Timed at 18:39:48. You'll see my reply to you.....lol :0)) MIKE.

Hi Mike I wrote to you about baptisms at leicester family history and you were going to find out at AGM. Did you find any thing. Cheers Linda

Greeting's Again Elaine...... Tell him in your best British accent ... Mike say's :- ' Your very Welcome '...... Now buy him a year's subscription to this site.....lol :0) MIKE.

Hi Mike My new rellie in America wants me to pass on his thanks for the extra info on Lucy at Welford Road. Elaine

Greeting’s again Bruce……. 1891. Census. RG 12. / 2500 /Folder 19. / Page. 9. St. Peters Parish. Whetstone. Hog’s Lane. Henry Coulson.Head. Mar. 50. Frame Work Knitter. Stocking b Whetstone. Ann. Wife. 48. b Enderby. WILLIAM. Son. Um. 22. Shoe Riveter. b Whetstone. Fred. Son. 13. Ditto. b Ditto. Ernest Hy. Son. 10. Scholar. b Whetstone. Fred Bailey. Visitor. 2. b Leicester. 1891. Census. RG 12. / 2500 / Folder 119 / Page. 34. St. John’s Parish. Enderby. Broad St. Thomas Hames. Head. Mar. 54. Road man Lab. b Great Claybrooke. Leicestershire. Mary A. Wife. 44. b Enderby. HARRIETT. Dau. Um. 24. Shoe Machinist. B Great Claybrooke. Leicestershire. Rose. A. Dau. Um. 20. b Enderby. Ernest. Son. 17. Shoe Finisher. B Enderby. Margaret. A. Dau. 13. b Enderby. Edward. Son. 7. Scholar. b Enderby. George. H. Son. 4. Ditto. b Enderby. Samuel Ross. Father-in-Law. 71. Retired Lab. b Burton Hastings. Warwick. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003 1901. Census. RG 13 / 2958 / Folder 26 / Page. 21. St. Peter’s Parish. Whetstone. Main Street. William Coulson. Head. Mar. 32. Shoe Riveter b Whetstone. Harriett. Wife. 34. b Claybrooke Leicestershire. Harold. H. Son. 2. b Whetstone. Doris. A. Dau. 1. b Whetstone. © Crown Copyright National Archives. 1891. Census. RG 12 / 2500 / Folder 89 / Page. 14. St. John’s Parish. Enderby. Church Street. Thomas Bowler. Head. Mar.53. Sett Maker (Stone) b Mountsorrell Leicestershire. Helen. Wife. 50. Laundress. b London. Helen Beeson. Dau.21. Laundress. b London. Joe. Beeson. Son. 19. Shoe Hand. b London. Frank Beeson. Son. 17. Stone Mason b Chelsea. Fred L. Beeson. Son. 13. b Enderby. Sidney Bowler. Son. 9 Scholar b Enderby. SOPHIA.BOWLER Dau. 7. Scholar b Enderby. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. 1901. Census. RG 13 / 2959 / Folder 12 / Page. 16. St. John’s Parish. Enderby. West Street. Helen Bowler. Mar. 60 b Nilin End. London. Fred L. Son. 23. Stone Mason b Enderby. Sidney Bowler. Son. 19. Stone Mason b Enderby. SOPHIA.BOWLER. Dau. 17. Griswold Hosiery Knitter ( Stockings) b Enderby. * Griswold = Make of waving loom. © Crown Copyright National Archives. Time to blow out my candle ……. MIKE. JOHN TOMKINS...... Still working on your's .....

Greeting's Elaine.... I see it's getting overwhelming for you.... You've started to stutter now.......lol :0))) Passes over the family size jar of Prozac ..... MIKE.