Genealogy Chat

Hi Mike Hunting Hursts down in abundance now, would you be able to check on a baptism for a Thomas Hurst born c1823 and I think his parents would be Lucy and Charles Hurst. You are going to wish I bought that disc you know!!! Elaine

Hi Mike You are a star. Just checked in after late lunch and found your replies. This information if far more than I expected. The Heawoods have been hard to trace with so many spelling versions. Thanks Margaret

Hi Mike,Robert Sorry my mistake ive been back and it did say Robert Stoppard Gd/son. If you want to take a look just put Dethick,Lea & Holloway into Search engine . when you look at Census its the lea one you want. If you cant find it let me know Beverly

Greeting's Again Robert.... Not having the 1851. Census Image in front of me To see the way it has been set out... But there is a code of Marks ( oblique slashes) used by the enumerates :- \\ = Start and finish of a Household. \ = Start of a Family (Head) of the same surname living within the household. and change of surname Name but still living within the household Mary FS = Mary of the same name living within the household. FS = Female servant (if with a different surname) FS = Farm Servant ( surname the same as Head of household.) Therefore :- 1841. Aaron & Hannah ( Married) Siblings = Thomas, David, Mary. 1851. :- Hannah HEAD. (Aaron deceased) Siblings = Thomas, Sarah. Robert belongs to Thomas (Farmer.) Aaron Cooke belongs to Eleanor he maybe staying with Grand parent on the night of Census. Sunday 30th. March 1851. (Which could have been at Easter time ? ) while Eleanor is in child birth Sorry I think I said that both belonged to Thomas in my previous post ...sorry.... MIKE. BEVERLY...... Can you confirm you saw any oblique slashes on that Image you got via goggle ?

Back Again..... 1841. Scanned Census Returns... HO 107 / 600. / Folder. 20. / Page. 6. Braunstone. In the Village. Joseph Heawood. Head. 35. Wheelwright. Catherine. Wife. 33. EDWARD. 8. Hannah. 10. Catherine. 6. Joseph. 5. William. 2. Robert. 1 Month Old. Mary Heawood. 71. Not born within the County. (looks like you have the next generation back here ? ) All the others born within the County. © Crown Copyright National Archives. MIKE.

Greeting’s Again Margaret….. 1851. INDEX ONLY Census Returns:- Vol. 4. Index No’s 430. ~ 435. = Braunstone. Index No. 430.:- HEAWOOD. Catherine. 43. Catherine. 16. EDWARD.17. Hannah. 19. John. 7. Joseph. 14. Mark. 5. Martha. 3. Robert.9. Sarah.6. William. 12. Braunstone Burials for Heawood / Haywood :- HAYWOOD ELIZABETH 28 NOV 1816 23 HAYWOOD WILLIAM 6 MAY 1829 62 HEAWOOD MARY 30 DEC 1847 78 * HEAWOOD JOSEPH 21 FEB 1849 43 HEAWOOD JAMES JOSEPH 14 NOV 1875 6WKS ABODE LEICESTER * HEAWOOD CATHERINE 30 MAR 1877 68? HEAWOOD WILLIAM 13 APR 1877 1 HEAWOOD ANNIE ELIZA 20 SEP 1883 29 HEAWOOD WILLIAM 24 OCT 1893 54 * = Could be Edward’s Parents…? © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002 I’ ll see if I can find out what shows on the 1841. Census. MIKE.

Greeting's & Welcome Margaret..... Sorry you will not get a certificate for the birth of anyone born pre 1837....( only a Photo copy of the Christening from Parish Records) See my reply to Robert below But having said that let me have a look around my disks and see if I can find any more details to help you..... MIKE.

Greeting's again Robert. Abbreviations found in use on Census:- GD/Son SIL. The way I read it Thomas & Arron belonged to Thomas the Farmer on that 51. Census return. Eleanor might have been away on the night of Census. ( Sunday 30th. March. 1851.) The relationship of the person shown on the Census returns always relates to the HEAD of the household. Pre 1837 Details..... There is no certificates as we know them..... You can obtain photo copies from any fiche which gives the details from Parish Records.... Most Record Offices or FHS Centres offer this service... Best to do this in the Office which is local to the area you are interested in.... But Latter Day Saints Family History Centres will order these fiches (£2.70p per fiche & 5 day working notice) and held for your use for 28 days. MIKE.

Hi I am very new at this so be patient. I need to get a birth cert for Edward Heawood born about 1834 Braunstone Leic. He was my husbands gt grand father. I think I need to know mother and father first names to make sure I get the right person. Any help. Margaret Sutton Coldfield.

Morning Mike, Thank you for clearing up the different ages re Thomas Wildes,and thank you once again for your lookup.Have a lovely Easter. Brenda

Hi Mike Thank you as ever, quite interesting though, another sibling there I would say and we keep finding Hurst's but have not worked out everyone and maybe we can by looking at Anne now (you never know), have death cert for Lucy as she was at Leicester Union but going to put a message on for a look up later Elaine

Greeting's Again John..... Sorry rechecked 1861 again still only those two given one other one but he was born and living in Pickwell in the County. Also had a go at Josephs ??? born either 1837 or 1838 St. Margaret's Parish but exhausted all the variants possible but drew a blank ....Sorry MIKE.

Greeting's Again Elaine.... Confirmation of Christening's in Wigston Magna. CHARLES HURST. 19th. August. 1789. Wigston Magna. Father:- John Hurst. Mother:- Anne. ( No other name given) WILLIAM HURST. 11th. June. 1810. Wigston Magna. Father:- Charles Hurst. Mother:- Lucy. ( No other name given ) Spotted this one as well :- Mary Hurst. 22nd. October. 1787. Wigston Magna. Father:- John Hurst. Mother:- Anne. ( No other name given ) Sorry didn't find any thing for Charles or John's Marriage But seeing that Lucy came from outside the County then maybe the Marriage took place in Stowmarket ? ' Details given in Parish Records per 1837.'..... Speaking from personal experiences doubt if you get the maiden name via these for a birth .... It usually states some thing like this .... ' Christian Name of Child '..... Son / Daughter of ' Christian or full names of either Father or Mother ' and if your lucky a date but you always get the Vicar's Name ... I think you'll have to ask for a look up from someone in Suffolk area on this site re:- Stowmarket. ...sorry Details for Work House :- Do you know which one the death took place in and what year ? Again if before 1837. I believe there was no certificates issued but if after then a certificate was given so armed with the date then look for a possible match on the GRO site and order the certificate it should give maiden name ...but having said that ONLY if the informant know the name in the first place.....Sorry to be a wet blanket....... Now this injection of Prozac ? Do you remember which end it goes in ? ...umm..OUCH... lol. 8-) MIKE. Beverly..... 'Nice one '......well done...

Hi Robert I found these while googling I hope they help if you havn't got them 1841 Census Lea Aaron Stoppard 52 Farmer Hannah 55 Thomas 15 Mary 15 FS David 10 On 1851 Census Lea Folio 581 Page 16 Hannah Head Widow 67 Annuitant Kirk Ireton Thomas Son 25 farmer 20 Acres & Butcher Lea Sarah Daughter 21 House Servant Lea Robert GD/Son 8 Scholar Ashlehay Aaron Cook GD/Son 4 Scholar Matlock Beverly

Hi Mike I think Dethwick and lea are probably the same because when i googled it came up Dethwick lea Beverly

Mike Thanks for that, regret the one 'in the money' is not mine. There should be another Joseph aged abt 23 on the 61 census. Pushing my luck a bit but would you have birth details for Josephs born 1837 and 1838 shud be St Margarets dist. Regards Jon

Greeting's again John.... Not so long this time.... RG 09. / 2284. / Folder 94. Page. 15. Leicester. 48, Northampton Street. Joseph TOMKINS. Head. Mar. 24. Painter. b St. Margaret's Parish. Jane. Wife. 24. Boot Binder. b. All Saints Parish. ***************** Now for those in the money....lol. 8-) RG 09. / 2284. / Folder. 46. / Page. 12. Leicester. East St.Margaret's Parish. No. 6, Highfields Street. Joseph TOMLIN. Head. Mar. 68. Landed proprietor b. Edith Weston. Rutland. Mary. Wife. 63. b Empingham Rutland. Helen. Dau. Um. 23. b. Teigh Rutland. Charlotte. Dau. Um. 20. b. Teigh Rutland. Ann Catherine Tomlin Visitor. 26. b Wymondham Leicestershire. Mary Elizabeth Bainell Servant. 22. Lady's Maid. b. Braunston Rutland. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. MIKE.

Hi Mike Looking for help with a parish record if I may, am looking for the marriage of Charles Hurst born 1789 in Wigston Magna father's name John Hurst and mother's name may be Ann Wright. Charles married a Lucy Ann ??? born in Stowmarket 1791. We and my American buddy are trying to find her maiden name. Also may I pick your brains about the workhouse. She died in the Leicester workhouse and would there be any records with the possibility of finding her maiden name. He believes her first son William Hurst was christened 11 Jun 1810 in Wigston, I have not dug in to the Hurst's much yet. Am injecting Prozac into a big egg for you (used to be a nurse so have connections!!!) Elaine

Greeting’s And Welcome Robert…. Sorry I just help out it's Beverly's Thread..... Choice of two christening’s for Eleanor But can’t find the Village of Dethwick ….Grr… STOPPARD, Eleanor Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 23 Apr 1820 Recorded in: Dethwick, Derbyshire, England Father: Aaron STOPPARD Mother: Hannah Source: FHL Film 1041018 Dates: 1797 – 1847 **************************** Ashover being 5.3 miles from the Village of Lea place of given birth for Eleanor on both 1861 & 1871. Census. STOPPARD, Eleanor Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 23 Apr 1820 Recorded in: Ashover, Derbyshire, England Father: Aaron STOPPARD Mother: Hannah Source: FHL Film 1041018 Dates: 1661 – 1898. ************************** This is the record for the marriage you have given 1846. Giving you the next male generation back…… COOKE, Thomas Marriage Wife: Eleanor STOPPARD Marriage Date: 3 Feb 1846 Recorded in: Ashover, Derbyshire, England Husband's Father: Thomas COOKE Wife's Father: Aaron STOPPARD Source: FHL Film 1041019 Dates: 1799 – 1894. © Crown Copyright National Archives. 1861. Scanned census Image. RG 09 / 2283. / Folder. 59./ Pages 7 ~8. Leicester. St. Margaret’s Parish, Ecclesiastical District. St. John’s. No. 6, Albion Street. Thomas Cooke. Head. Mar. 37. Ostler b. Loughborough. Leicestershire. Eleanor. Wife. 41 b. Lea. Derbyshire. Thomas. Son. 15. Scholar. b Matlock. Derbyshire. Page. 8. Arron Cooke. Son. 15. Scholar. b Matlock. Derbyshire. David. Son. 12. Scholar. b Matlock Derbyshire. Betsy. Dau. 7. Scholar. b Caldecott. Rutland. Arthur. Son. 3. Scholar. b. Leicester. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. ************************* So was Thomas & Arron TWINS ? Sorry no Sign of Robert……. Census Night Sunday 7th. April. 1861.…… I did try and find more details on Thomas (Father) on 1851. & 1841.Census In or around Loughborough But couldn’t find him or wife. Or in any of the Villages mentioned as place of birth for children within Leicestershire…… Sorry. If I can help again please get in touch again. MIKE.

Mike If your have index for 1861 LEICESTER CITY Census, could I please have details for all JOSEPH TOMKINS and variants. Many thanks Jon