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Hi Mike Sorry to mess you about Jane is definately daughter in law Born In France because she was a stretton she married William in 1869 I also forgot to put Clara Grandaughter 3 months down so i would imagine Maria being mother unless ive got it mixed up again thank you Beverly

Greeting's Again Sarah... 1851. INDEX ONLY Census Returns :- Vol 6. Index No's 458 ~ 530. = Earl Shilton. Index No. 462. = Earl Shilton. HENDERSON. William. 40. Mary.A. 27. Ann. 20. Mary. 16. SARAH. 9. Susannah. 7. Christening's Found. :- SARAH HENDERSON. 25th. July. 1841. Earl Shilton. Father:- William. Mother:- Rebecca. Susannah. Henderson. 28th. Jan. 1844. Earl Shilton. Father :- William. Mother:- Rebecca. BURIAL Found:- REBECCA HENDERSON. 19th. Jan. 1845. Earl Shilton. Aged 31. Notes:- Wife of William. 1861. Scanned Census Images. RG 9 / 2262 / Page. 64. Earl Shilton. Keat's lane. Enoch Brown. Head. mar. 30. Ag. Lab. Ann. Wife. 30. Mary A. Dau. 4. SARAH HENDERSON. Sister-in-Law Um. 19. Stocking Maker. All born Earl Shilton. **************** 1861. RG 9 / 2264 / Page. 33. Barwell. 3 Doors down from red Lion and Farmer Staniforth.:- William Staniforth. Head. mar. 66. F.W.K. b Earl Shilton. Maria. Wife. 63. Ditto. b Barwell. DANIEL SON. WIDOW. 29. F.W.K. b Earl Shilton. William Staniforth Grd/Son. 5. b Earl Shilton. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. I would start in 1863 for Marriage ...... Sorry for the delay but I only had B----n Earl Shilton Plus the coordinates for the family Sarah was living with in 1861. So had to trawl through the B's ..... MIKE.

Mike, you are an absolute super star!! Thankyou so much, thats loads of info!! From your BESTEST FRIEND!! lol :-)) Sarah

Greeting's Again Beverley.... I have sent you a scan of the original Census return via your E-mail address...... So you can try and work it out from that .... There is three surnames in the household Collman, Page and Hadden. Plus I may have mis understood the Jane seeing that there was a sister to William Named ' Eliza Jane' of the right age and was thinking she used her middle name on later Census and that was the Jane you were seeking ....Sorry.... MIKE. Sarah... Just to say I've amended the 1861. Census return Forgot to put in that Sarah was a Sister-in-Law to Enoch Brown....sorry

Mike, thanks for all you have done, I have moved on loads because of it. Problem though! The 1861 shows Daniel Staniforth as a widow. (RG 9 / 2264 / Page. 33. Earl Shilton) I didn't know he had previously married! And who is the William, is it his?? His son William (my gt grandad) was born in 1868, so this either wasn't his son, or more likely with my lot had died by 1868 (they did enjoy naming more than one the same name). I have found a poss first marriage for Daniel in 1852, to either an Elizabeth or Emma. Could you check your burials to see if an Elizabeth or Emma Staniforth died between 1852 and 1861??? The 1852 marriage was in Market Bosworth. Sorry to be a pain, and I owe you the biggest box of chocs ever!! Sarah

Greeting's again Sarah...... Sorry my slip up the 1861 census return was in fact for Barwell.and NOT Earl Shilton..I've amended last message.... William Jnr aged 5 ....Umm...... Pass ..lol Is this the one which he took Game keeping with in Derbyshire ?.... If you click on my name and send me your E-mail address then I can send you the Scan from the original Census return, so you will see it states Grandson of William Head of Household. In the meantime I'll whizz around my disks to see what I can come up with .... MIKE. PS. Sorry Choc's are OFF the menu.....:0(

Mike, have emailed you! Had guessed it was Barwell, Farmer and the pub gave that one away!! And the gamekeeper was on the other side of the tree...... saying that, it could be the same one, they tended to marry each other regularly enough!!!! Sarah

Looking for family of John (Jonathan) IFE in 1851 in Coleorton. Any help would be much appreciated. Chris

Greeting's again Sarah..... Burials for Barwell…* = Your Names ? * STANFORTH WILLIAM 18 NOV 1866 10 STANIFORTH SAMUEL 31 JAN 1869 5MTHS * STANIFORTH WILLIAM 28 DEC 1871 77 * STANIFORTH MARIA 4 DEC 1879 82 * STANIFORTH DANIEL 6 SEP 1891 59 STANIFORTH MARIA ELIZABETH 27 SEP 1891 1YR 9 MTHS Christening Found :- WILLIAM STANIFORTH. 3rd. August. 1856. Earl Shilton. Father:- Daniel. Mother:- Emma. Noted:- Father:- is F.W.K. Marriage Found :- Samuel Staniforth.~ Mary Ann Ladkin. 18th. August. 1898. Earl Stilton. By Banns. Brides father:- Richard Ladkin. Grooms Father:- Daniel Staniforth. Notes:- Groom is 20. Bride is 21. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. MIKE. PS Processing your Addy now.... E-mail winging it's way through Cyber space now

Greeting's And Welcome Chris .... 1851. INDEX ONLY Census return. Vol. 9. Index No. 833. = Thringstone. IFE. ( The Only ones showing ) John. 23. Jane. 20. Anna. 1. George. 1 Month old. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. MIKE.

Thanks Mike For your time and trouble have looked up births and there was a william birth 1845 Leicester also a John so he might have been a twin? Beverly

Mike, thanks so much for all of your help, don't know where we would all be without you. Sarah

Thank you so much for the speedy and helpful response to my IFE 1851 request. It is greatly appreciated. Chris

Greeting's Again Chris..... ' Your very Welcome'.... I did have a look for the IFE family in both Coleorton and Thringstone 1841.and 1861. But sorry drew a blank..... MIKE.

*** F.A.O. LINDA WHITEHEAD. *** Has promised I've spoken to Peter (Shop Manager) today... Re:- Family Names Baptist lists.... Sorry but they don't do this at LRFHS.... But.... he did think it was a good idea and he'll bring it up at the next meeting.. So...... ' Watch this space '..... MIKE. Sorry some one else asked me if there was such a thing as a 'Birth certificate ' for births pre 1830... The answer was NO but you can copy entries from Parish Records...... I'll leave Paula's answer re:- Nonconformist Records until her return from the land of sunshine....... Hope she remembers the Rock ? ...lol. MIKE.

That's very kind, Mike, thanks again. The IFEs travelled well. In 1841 John was in Suffolk. In 1848 he married Jane in Wolverhampton Registration District. In 1849 Anna was apparently born in Staffs. In 1851 they were in Leicestershire, by 1854 in Derbyshire. Then they settled down. Thanks again, Chris

Following yesterday's A.G.M. of the LRFHS. The New Headquarters will be known as :- 'Leicestershire & Rutland Research Centre' (This is because of the many Libraries within the City centre) Pilot House, 41, King Street, Leicester. At this moment they are working towards a grand opening of the new centre for Monday May 9th. MIKE.

Anyone wanting to follow progress on the new LRFHS centre go their website: www*lrfhs*org*uk Re Baptist records: found out this weekend that actually our records are kept at the Record Office in Wigston. We have a list for where people are buried (though many don't have headstones) but no one knows of a burial register. The Baptists don't have christenings (infant baptism) but often do have a a service of dedication; there may be a mention on the Cradle Roll (at least in more recent times) but no details. I guess the only official records will be the marriage register. My father-in-law was telling us that a previous minister decided to have a clear-out and ended up burning at least 10 years of church records!!!! Jan

Greeting's And Welcome Bruce...... 1861. Scanned Census Images. RG 9 / 2258 / 29/ Page 14. Enderby Leicestershire. Samuel Ross. Head. Mar. 40. Ag Lab. b Little Burton Warwickshire. Elizabeth. Wife. 42. Seamstress. b Enderby. Leicestershire. Emily Dau. 13. Stitcher. b Tur Langton Leicestershire. Betsey. dau. 9. Stitcher. b Enderby Leicestershire. RG 9 2296 / 86/ Page 16. City of Leicester. No. 36. East Bond Street. MARY ANN ROSS. 14. House servant b Enderby. Leicestershire. Mary servant to Mr Webster. Hosiery Manufacturer © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. 1851. INDEX ONLY Census Returns :- Vol. 3. Enderby = 358. ~ 396. Index no. 364. = Enderby. ROSS. Samuel. 29. Elizabeth 32. MARY ANN. 4. Emily. 3. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. MIKE.

Hi Mike, Hoping I can find some info from the Parish records disc you have. A relative found me this time and he is in America. We share HURSTS if anyone is looking into that name. However a Hurst married a Garratt and he is trying to find his gggggrandfather and his is looking for the birth of John Garrett abt 1798 in St Margaret's so he can establish the parents names. Nice to talk to you again Elaine