Genealogy Chat

Hi Ive hit a brick wall can anybody tell me where to go from here. Im trying to find birth of Peter Gilford so i can send for cert Ive tried BMD and my aunts looked on 1837 on line from the years 1844-1848 but with no luck. Can we order cert without ref number. Also we are not sure of dates they keep changing on census, we think its between 1845-1848. His Birth was Ilkeston and at the moment there is no chance of getting to records office down there Thanks Bev

Greeting's Again Beverly..... I've had a look on 1837 but drew a blank...:0( I think Ilkeston comes under Basford now Worth a phone call to the Records Office I think...?:- Basford Records Office The Woodlands, Highbury Road, Bulwell, Nottingham, NG6 9DA. Tel: 0115 927 1294. Fax: 0115 977 1845. MIKE.

Thanks Mike Bev

' Your very Welcome '... But I'm clean out of knee pads for the grovel.....lol :0))

BEV Let me know if I can do anything to look up in Nottingham for you, not too near Bulwell!!! MIKE Do you have access to the 1851 Leicester census to find out the name of a boat? All I have are a list of names on a 'boat by the canal' William Warren Serv 27 Robert Warren Head 56 John Warren Son 19 George Warren Son 22 all boatman William is born Blisworth Northampton but not sure about the rest yet,just found them for the first time all together here. Robert is Williams father according to the banns in 1856 and the address given is Foundry Lane as ever. Many thanks Elaine

Thanks Elaine but at the moment im disowning my family and adopting another one. I phoned records office in ilkeston its under erewash now,they said if hes not on 1837 on line or indexes he wasnt registered he was just baptised. I thought ok but then found out mothers maiden name isnt on baptised record and thats what we are after.So now got to get Mother and Fathers marriage and if we cant get down there its going to cost us £11 for half an hours search and ive no idea what year they were married in or if they were married in Ilkeston. So at the momemt im cheesed off. Anyway thanks again Bev Moaning over with lol

Greeting’s ……..Elaine. You will see from the coordinates That William was on one boat and the rest of the Family Was on another boat…… In the 1861. Census the name of the boat William Warren & Peter Gilford was on was :- “ BLACK DIAMOND “ Can't see Zachariah on the 1861. to see name of boat....sorry Details from 1851. City of Leicester Census……. 2090 / 388. 260 388 16 16 BOAT ON CANAL ZACHARIAH TIBBS HEAD U 46 M BOATMAN. Born Bugbrock. Northamptonshire. 261 388 16 16 BOAT ON CANAL WILLIAM WARREN SERV U 27 M BOATMAN. Born Blisworth. Northamptonshire. 2090 / 388. 262 388 16 17 BOAT ON CANAL ROBERT WARREN HEAD M 56 M BOATMAN. Born Blisworth. Northamptonshire. 263 388 16 17 BOAT ON CANAL JOHN WARREN SON U 19 M BOATMAN. Born. Blisworth. Northamptonshire. 264 388 16 17 BOAT ON CANAL GEORGE WARREN SON U 22 M BOATMAN. Born Blisworth. Northamptonshire. Sorry I can’t help any further to solve your 1851. problem.…… MIKE.

Thanks Mike, At least I know they were all from Northampton now. Do you think servant is literally that or would apprentice be more appropriate??? Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine... I would think ' Bo's un ' Is more appropriate..... seeing he was 27 years old. MIKE.

Hi Mike Thanks for your e-mail, need to pick your brains again. Have been talking to someone who specialises in the waterways and she suggested that the company my gggrandfather worked for may have owned houses in Foundry Lane as similar happened in Birmingham when mothers did'nt want to be on the boat when they were about to give birth. If this is right then it gives me the name of the company my William worked for which I could find out by looking at electoral rolls. I have'nt got a clue where to start and thought you would know. We are looking at 1861 I would guess before and after, Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine.... Ummm .....Thinking aloud here.... Blisworth Northamptonshire...Was a birth place ?...... ' Stoke Bruerne ' ( Canal Museum ) comes to mind.... Seeing it's only 3 miles from Blisworth maybe that's where the Owner of the Boat operated from ? If you type ' Stoke Bruerne' into your search engine then there is loads of links to interesting sites...... Then a letter to see if they might have lists of old owners ? MIKE. Have

Thanks Mike There's another job for me tomorrow!!! Cheers as ever Elaine

Hi Bev, Finally I may have been able to help you after all you have done for me! Could this be your guy? Name: Guildford, Peter Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1846 District: Basford County: Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Volume: 15 Page: 508 And from Genuki: Basford Created 1st July 1837. Mainly in Nottinghamshire, but included parts of Derbyshire. Sub-districts : Basford; Bulwell; Carlton; Greasley; Ilkeston; Wilford. GRO volumes : XV (1837-51); 7b (1852-1930). Codnor and Loscoe, Codnor Park, Heanor, Ilkeston, Shipley. Registers now divided between Basford, Nottingham, Rushcliffe, Mansfield, Erewash and East Retford districts. Good luck Sarah

' Nice one Sarah '...... and Beverly it checks out with 1837 site..... MIKE.

Am looking for WINTERTON, WHITMORE and PAGE from around the Aylestone area and MARSTON and MYRING from around St Margarets. Sandra

Greeting's & Welcome......Sandra. Can you also give us a year you want us to look at please ? and any Christan names ? MIKE.

Thanks sarah thats cheered me up a lot dont know how to thank you Beverly

No problem Beverly, I owed you!! And praise from Mike, I feel honoured!!! :-)) Sarah

Sandra>> I've noted down details of some Whitmores when i was looking through the parish records for St James, Aylestone, they are early to mid 20th century so not that old but let me know if you want details. I'm not related to the Whitmores myself but i noted down details as my grandmas sister married a Whitmore. They were also from the Aylestone area. Paula

Baptisms. (date. Name. Parents. Address. Father occupation) 20 Jan 1894 Eliza Anne Whitmore. William and Emma. Vernon Road. Gas worker. 5 May 1896 Florence Emma Whitmore. William and Emma. 104 Vernon Road. Gas labourer. 4 July 1897. Violetta Whitmore. George and Mary Ann. Vernon Road. Labourer. 6 Oct 1897. Benjamin Whitmore. William and Emma. 104 Vernon Road. Labourer. 27 Feb 1898. Lilian Whitmore. John and Janine. 81 Vernon road. Stoker. 24 Oct 1900. William Whitmore. William and Emma. Duncan Road. Labourer. 13 Sept 1905. Doris Evelyn Whitmore. George Harry and Mary Ann. 82 Vernon road. Gas stoker. 13 Sept 1911. George Ernest Whitmore. Charles Morris and Annie. 92 Lansdowne Road. Gas labourer 1 Nov 1911. Reginald Morris Whitmore and John Frederick Whitmore. Charles Morris and Annie. 92 Lansdowne Road. Gas labouer. 29 May 1912. Elsie May Whitmore. George Harry and Mary Ann. 51 Vernon Road. Gas labourer. 7 July 1915. Cissie Hilda Whitmore and Arthur Albert. George Harry and Mary Ann. 51 Vernon Road. Gas labourer. 11 Jan 1920. Ruby Enid Whitmore. Benjamin and Ruby. Born Oct 10. 38 Richmond Road, Van man. I won't post the later stuff as the people are still alive. I also have some marriages