Genealogy Chat

Hi Jess, Could you look up a William Edward Hoar born Gosport Hampshire 1897. Thanks so much.

Jenny -i'm a bit confused about your Bernardo's there re only 2 that show up at all in 1871: rebagliate (Unknown) Bernardo 20 Savona, Italy Marinaro Vessels Durham Richard Bernardo 24 St Luke, Middlesex, England Lodger Mile End Old Town London Was your chap anything to do with the police force. Also do you know his wifes maiden name? jess cant do 1861

Hello Jess (original posted 18/3/05) I just thought of another line I'd like info on if you could? Mary Cochrane (possibly under maiden name Fitzgerald) age 33 (born Cork Ireland) on 1861 census with children Hannah age8 yrs(born Woolwich or Eltham,Kent),Sophia age 4 yrs in New Cross,London or Greenwich which could come under London or Kent. Possibly living in New Cross or Deptford,Greenwich. Any info gratefully received,many thanks Jenny Can you look for them on the 1871 census please?

Hello Jess (original posted 18/03/05) Can you please find Alfred(born Italy) & Ellen Elizabeth (born Hackney)Bernardo in Holborn or Clapton,Hackney,Middlesex in 1871 census. Alfred aged 28yrs Ellen 22 yrs Any info gratefully received many thanks Jenny

Jess Dont know about John as havent found any info on him other than his dad was Charles Batchelor a Brewer(from the marriage cert). Havent found Johns Birth cert either despite vists to FRC & lots of searching so dont know who Johns Mum was. however!!!! have from the family search site lots on Esther Matilda her dad was Thomas Emons .her mum Agnes nee Shepherd & she had bros Thomas William Emons b 11 11 1850 George Minot Emons b 18.8.1858 & Joseph Frederick Emons b 4.7.1860 all born Bethnal Green Esther was born 30.1.1852 they were living at 42 Cudworth Place Bethnal green on the 1861 census. got that address from a contact i made on this site who turned out be descended from Joseph Frederick!!!! &**** living at 12 Octogon Place Bethnal Green on 1871

Shirley - they are playing hard to get!Going to be horribly mistranscribed when i do track them down! Did John Batchelor or Ester Emons have any brothers or sisters?

Jenny - can't seem to see your request. please re-post request. sorry. jess

Hi Jess Yes thats the marriage John Batchelor married Esther Matilda Emons on 19th Mar 1870 at The Parish Church in the parish of St Jude Bethnal Green.Johns addrees at marriage was 8 Suffolk Street & Esthers was 12 Cross Street

Hello Jess I'm sorry if I missed the reply I've been checking your posts yesterday & today did you have any luck with my Bernardo's 1871 census? And Hannah Cochrane & Mary 1861 census? I don't want to have missed your reply but also as a newbie I wasn't sure how long to leave you to do the research you really do seem to have been busy with requests. I had originally omitted the census date which really didn't help. Hope this is OK Kind regards Jenny

Shirley this is the marriage i assume (Esther Nee Emons) BATCHELOR, John 1870 March Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex EMONS, Esther 1870 March Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex MORGAN, Charlotte Maria 1870 March Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex Staton, William 1870 March Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex birth - looked it up to see if any other name she might use(Matilda?) i know you already know this but want to use it as a start point.

Hi Jess Thanks so much. Ihave found John & his wife on the 1881 with the children as listed on my previous thread. By 1901 Arthur was already married & not with them anymore(makes it difficult as couldnt find Arthur & his wife Elizabeth on the 1901 too) as havent found John & wife Esther on 1901 either dont no who still at home with them or even if thery had died before the 1901. Whwn Arthur married in 1896 John was on the marriage cert as dad but didnt say deceased. Would like to no where the family were in 1891. & indeed where John & his wife Esther were in 1871 ,given that they married in 1870,aged 22 & 18. In 1881 the family of John & Esther were living at 11 Bohn Street London Middlesex Hope this seems less confusing. John Batchelor birthplace n the 1881 census states Holloway & Esther ,s is Bethnal Green.So its John & Esther , the parents ,with any family at home that I,m interested in in 1871/1891/1901. Hope this not too much work to ask for. Many Thanks.Shirley

Shirley taylor You are next- going to start now but have to go out soon. I am a little confused - not hard What am i looking for? John Batchelor in 1881 with a wife named........? I presume with son John, but (others not born) in 1901 with Esther as his wife and prob 2 x James and maybe Arthur? Confused as to where John fits in! jess

Jess, Thank you so much for that. I was getting nowhere fast with these Lynchs. Best regards Heather

pretty sure...give or take a year....im not sure if he was in the country...trying to find this out thanks

Caroline how sure of George Shelly's birth year are you?

they are there in 1871 heather Ann Lynch 38 Ireland Head All Saints Hampshire Ann Lynch 4 Southampton, Hampshire, England Daughter All Saints Hampshire Bernard Lynch 12 Southampton, Hampshire, England Son All Saints Hampshire Ellen Lynch 17 Southampton, Hampshire, England Daughter All Saints Hampshire Lissey Lynch 3 Southampton, Hampshire, England Daughter All Saints Hampshire Mathew Lynch 18 Southampton, Hampshire, England Son All Saints Hampshire Thomas Lynch 6 Southampton, Hampshire, England Son All Saints Hampshire Source information: RG10/1193 folio 103 page 12 Registration district: Southampton Sub-registration district: Southampton ED, institution, or vessel: 45 she is a 'mariner wife' so he must be at sea jess this MIGHT be him Name: Thomas Lynch Age in 1871: 40 Estimated birth year: 1831 Relation: Captain ?? Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Vessels Town: Keyham Dockyard County/Island: Devon Country: England Source information: RG10/2140 folio116 Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: Tamar ED, institution, or vessel: Iron Duke

beckie in a word NO he is listed as nephew so head is either mothers brother or Dads sisters husband you'll have to check the marriages jess jess

Jess, Thanks for all your hard work. There are a couple of things I can now follow up from what you have found. A very Grateful Poyner. Dave

becky had to go back to 1871 for Henry Edward Dunce 1 Byfleet, Surrey, England Son Byfleet Surrey Elizabeth Dunce 37 Byfleet, Surrey, England Wife Byfleet Surrey William Dunce 37 Godalming, Surrey, England Head Byfleet Surrey Henry Flint 16 Surbiton, Surrey, England Nephew Byfleet Surrey Joseph Flint 56 Wimbledon, Surrey, England Brother-in-law Byfleet Surrey Alice Hockley 10 Byfleet, Surrey, England Stepdaughter Byfleet Surrey Charles Hockley 6 Byfleet, Surrey, England Stepson Byfleet Surrey Theresa Hockley 15 Byfleet, Surrey, England Stepdaughter Byfleet Surrey Sarah Kelsey 86 Kent, England Mother-in-law Byfleet Surrey Source information: RG10/805 Registration district: Chertsey Sub-registration district: Chertsey ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 107 Page: 18 struggling with mary Ann at the mo- any brothers or sisters that you know of? jess

Here you are then david. born Cheltenham IN Cheltenham Elizabeth Poyner 40 Birdlip, Gloucestershire, England Head Cheltenham Gloucestershire Elizabeth Poyner 11 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham Gloucestershire Born Cheltenham but elsewhere: Name: Elizabeth Poyner Leonard Poyner 9 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Inmate Newent Gloucestershire Age in 1871: 28 Estimated birth year: 1843 Relation: Inmate in the workhouse of no occupation. Source information: RG10/2606 folio 71 page 4 Registration district: Newent Sub-registration district: Newent ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Allen Beard 8 Gloucestershire, England Niece Rudford Gloucestershire Fredk Poyner 44 Gloucestershire, England Head Rudford Gloucestershire Sarah Ann Poyner 36 Gloucestershire, England Wife Rudford Gloucestershire Source information: RG10/2607 folio 79 page 5 Registration district: Newent Sub-registration district: Newent Emma Poyner 60 Ross, Herefordshire, England Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Robert Poyner 63 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire Thomas Poyner 16 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Wallace Poyner 33 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire William Robt Poyner 21 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Source information: RG10/3127 Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 50 Folio: 27 Page: 48 James Llewellyn 12 Gloucestershire, England Stepson Huntley Gloucestershire Kitty Poyner 34 Tibberton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Huntley Gloucestershire Samuel Poyner 33 Tibberton, Gloucestershire, England Head Huntley Gloucestershire Tom Poyner 2 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Son Huntley Gloucestershire William Poyner 6 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Son Huntley Gloucestershire Source information: RG10/2605 Registration district: Westbury On Severn Sub-registration district: Huntley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 29 Page: 5 Edward Poyner 3 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Son Huntley Gloucestershire Harriett Poyner 44 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Huntley Gloucestershire John Poyner 21 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Son Huntley Gloucestershire Sarah A Poyner 5 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Huntley Gloucestershire Thomas Poyner 48 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Head Huntley Gloucestershire Source information: RG10/2605 Registration district: Westbury On Severn Sub-registration district: Huntley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 37 Page: 21 Abiah Clara Poyner 12 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Taynton Gloucestershire Francis E Poyner 4 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire Frederick G Poyner 3 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire John Poyner 15 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire Martha Poyner 40 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Taynton Gloucestershire Martha Poyner 8 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Taynton Gloucestershire Phillip J Poyner 1 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire Sarah Poyner 10 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Taynton Gloucestershire William Poyner 48 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Head Taynton Gloucestershire William R Poyner 7 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Son Taynton Gloucestershire Source information: RG10/2607 Registration district: Newent Sub-registration district: Newent ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 58 Page: 3 ( Matilda Poyner 22 Newport, Monmouth, Wales Wife Taynton Gloucestershire Ruth Poyner 1 Tarbolton, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Taynton Gloucestershire William Poyner 25 Taynton, Gloucestershire, England Head Taynton Gloucestershire William Poyner 3 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Son Taynton Gloucestershire Source information: RG10/2607 Registration district: Newent Sub-registration district: Newent ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 61 Page: 10 then just the odd ones: Sarah Poyner 65 Churcham, Gloucestershire, England Servant Cirencester Gloucestershire Source information: RG10/2646 Registration district: Cirencester Sub-registration district: Cirencester ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 174 Page: 25 Ruth Poyner 30 Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England Servant Clifton Gloucestershire Source information: RG10/2540 Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: Clifton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 96 Page: 42 Annie Poyner 25 Huntley, Gloucestershire, England Servant St Mary Gloucestershire Source information: RG10/2671 Registration district: Cheltenham Sub-registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Folio: 62 Page: 15 More Poyners than you can shake a stick at! Jess x