Genealogy Chat

alison- i cant find either William senior or Clara under either Haynes or Newell.think you will have to find a marriage to narrow things down a bit jess

Except you need alook up on scotlands people Lawrence, sorry, after all that! can see scotland jess

Jess. Sorry about the omission of data that would be helpful. Here is what I know. Matthew Skirving was married to Marion Thompson; I have no documented proof just a familysearch that the event took place in Manchester in 1854. There is an 1881 census from scotlandspeople that lists Marion as a widow aged 42 with children Agnes & Marion ages 15 & 22. They had all their children, as best as I can tell in dumbarton, Scotland from 1855-1863 and at least 3 died very young, 2 girls were named after 2 that died. Matthew died in 1878 at age 41 in Tradeston, Lanark of typhus fever. His parents were a William & Agnes Skirving, residence not noted on Matthew's death record. I have been unable to locate any birth or death dates for his wife Marion; nor have I been able to for Matthew's birth. I am hoping that an 1871 census will give me some info to work with. Thank you, Lawrence

Hi Jess, thanks very much. I think the only one it can be is the one from Salford. We know very little about him except he had two brothers that we know of Jim and Albert. On my mothers marriage certificate in 1945 he was living at 10 Maurice (thats what it looks like) St. Nelson Lanc's and he was a miller. I don't know if this later information is of any use. Thanks for your help anyway, Gloria

Hi Jess, could you see if you can try and find a couple of people on the 1871 census for me please. these people are Clara Louisa Haynes nee Newell ( not sure year of marriage) born october 1842 in the city of london and her husband William Haynes born approx 1838/39 born in surrey. this couple had a son, William, between 1870-1872. i have found them on the 1881 census living in Acorn Place, Camberwell (RG11/0685, ED 20, Folio 21 and page 35) but cannot seem to find them on the 1871. if you find anything, thanks very much Alison

Hi Jess, Her husband was Bernard Cochrane but he was a soldier so may not have been at home then it is rumoured that he died in the Crimean war but we haven't been able to prove or disprove this yet. She is shown as a widow Mary Cochrane on the 1881 census living in 5 Kenwood Avenue,St pauls,Deptford. 1851 census single as Mary Fitzgerald living in St James Place,St Pauls Deptford and same again for 1891Mary Cochrane widow at 13 Rutts Terrace,St Pauls,Deptford. She did have a son Edward so maybe that will help reduce the choices??He was not showing on 1881 census but maybe will be on the 1871? Hope this helps Jenny

Gloria, will gladly look deeper into these, but which! William Marsden 5 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Son Blackburn Lancashire William Marsden 5 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Son Blackburn Lancashire William Marsden 5 Hindley, Lancashire, England Son Hindley Lancashire William Marsden 5 Boldon, Lancashire, England Son Salford Lancashire William Marsden 5 Delph, Staffordshire, England Son Brierley Hill Staffordshire William Marsden 5 Nonnacot, Staffordshire, England Son Trentham Staffordshire William H Marsden 5 York, Yorkshire, England Son York Yorkshire (William H has brother Charles and parents Annie and Henry) jess

Lawrence; few clues please! Where did he did if nothing else!! Who is marion? where was she born, how old was she......anything?! jess

Jenny. Do you have aname for Mary fitzgerald's husband? By 1871 at the age of 18 and 14 chances are the girls are 'away' and there is more than one mary fitzgerald that fits the bill jess Mary Fitzgerald 45 Ireland Wife Camberwell St Giles London Mary Fitzgerald 44 Cork, Ireland Wife Poplar London Mary Fitzgerald 42 Limerick, Ireland Wife St George Bloomsbury London Mary Fitzgerald 42 Cork, Ireland Wife St George in the East London Mary Fitzgerald 44 Ireland Wife St John The Evangelist London Mary Fitzgerald 45 Cork, Ireland Wife Wapping London

Hi Jess, I am trying to find out more about my grandfather Mr William Herbert Marsden, he married Lily Glover who was born c1896, and they had twins Lily and Jack. They lived in Nelson Lancashire, but Lily Glover was born in Bolton, and my grandad I have been led to believe could have been born on Stockport or Salford. I know I haven't given you many clues but hope you can help or push me in the right direction. many thanks Gloria

Jenny, cant find your alfred for looking. Even just using criteria Alfred Born Italy doesn't return anything remotely realistic will look for others later jess

Hi Jess Would it be possible to search for my Cochranes/Fitzgeralds on the 1871 instead of 1861 as I originally asked for? Sorry for the confussion. kind regards Jenny

Hi Jess My Bernardo's were not linked to the Police,Alfred was an Icecream maker in 1870 when he married Ellen Elizabeth Tott in Holborn, his address in 1870 was 4 summer Street,Backhill hers was 1 high Street,Kingsland this is West Hackney I think. Their daughter Elleanor Susannah born 1871 in Clapton,Hackney. In the 1881 census they were living in 8 Orchrd St,Islington,Middlesex and when their second daughter Jane was born 1873 they were living at 82 Mildmay Rd,Islington. I need to find Alfred to locate his place of birth all I know from 1881 census was Italy. Sometimes Bernardo is shown as BARNARDO (1881 census),BERNARDI(marriage record) BERNARDE (Marriage Index FreeBMD) Hope this helps. Thanks for your time. Jenny

Jess Thanks, I didnt have any luck either altho I didnt have as many facts when I was looking so was really doing the needle in the haystack thing.. Found it strange too not to find Arthur & elizabeth (Johns Son & dau in law ) with their two kids Ellen(Nell) & Arthur aged 3 & 1 approx on the 1901. really been unlucky this family I think with the keeping of their records Did find John,s eldest daughter Esther Jane & her husband & daughter on the 1901 so some records are there. Esther tho had moved to Camberwell London . But of course its John I,ve got stuck on & progressing back from him . thanks

Yes i did Shirley and am still not managing to track them down. Been thru all the Emons hoping to find them staying with family and mistrancribed , But no. can't find them on their own either. Am still looking on and off, but going in circles! When (if ) i do find them will message you. jess

Hi Jess I replied re John & Esther Batchelor on 20th at 17.56 have you seen that reply? Am grateful for your efforts Shirley

Done as far as i can, need some responses to questions people! jessx

Thank you Jess :-) Steven

sorry Adonis Jane Berry 34 Dalton, Lancashire, England Sister Upper Allithwaite Lancashire Alice Garnett 2 Allithwaite upper, Lancashire, England Daughter Upper Allithwaite Lancashire John Garnett 40 Milnthorpe, Westmorland, England Head Upper Allithwaite Lancashire John Garnett 7 Allithwaite upper, Lancashire, England Son Upper Allithwaite Lancashire Maggie Garnett 5 Allithwaite upper, Lancashire, England Daughter Upper Allithwaite Lancashire Margaret Garnett 41 Ulverston, Lancashire, England Wife Upper Allithwaite Lancashire Myers Garnett 11 Allithwaite upper, Lancashire, England Son Upper Allithwaite Lancashire Reuben Garnett 19 Kendal, Westmorland, England Son Upper Allithwaite Lancashire Source information: RG13/4000 folio 85 Page 6 Registration district: Ulverston Sub-registration district: Cartmel ED, institution, or vessel: 9 ...................................................................... Ada M Garnett 15 Cleator, Cumberland, England Daughter Egremont Cumberland James Garnett 19 Egremont, Cumberland, England Son Egremont Cumberland Margaret Garnett 41 Asptrie, Cumberland, England Wife Egremont Cumberland Spedding Garnett 16 Cleator, Cumberland, England Son Egremont Cumberland William Garnett 44 Egremont, Cumberland, England Head Egremont Cumberland Source information: RG13/4896 folio 82 page 12 Registration district: Whitehaven Sub-registration district: Egremont ED, institution, or vessel: 7 ............................................................ Correct 2? jess

christopher: More than one! parents names/siblings? (martha & Fred )+ Fred, Joseph & Charles or( Fanny & William)+ Florence & William correct birth? Name: Hoar, William Edward Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1897 District: Portsea Island County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 506