Genealogy Chat

Hi Jess Esther Batchelor would be 39 ,she was born 1852 in Bethnal Green. the children she might still have living at home were John George b 1870.Esther Jane b.circa 1872. Agnes Mary b circa 1875 Arthur b,1877 & James Joseph b. circa 1879.all the children are listed on the 1881 as born Stepney..I Know Esther Jane & Arthur both married in 1896 & Agnes didnt marry till 1910 . When Arthur married in 1896 his address was given as Old Ford London E. no street name. He married in the Parish Church of Old Ford London E. Thanks

Robert - was she deff. named 'Minnie' - or was that a pet name? (There is a laura Millicent taylor born about the right time in Lewisham) Any idea of Fathers name or where parents were born? If you have the marriage ref, prob best to send for the cert to check things like dads name.

Shirley. Remind me how old Esther should be in 1891 and who might be with her - even if husband is dead and will look again.remind me where she was born please. jess

Robert for me, for a min 1871 Aaron Cooke 24 Matlock, - omnibus driver Arthur Cooke 12 Leicestershire, - scholar Davd Cooke 21 Matlock, - stnemason Elenor Cooke 51 Lea Wife St Margaret Leicestershire Robert Cooke 9 - Thomas Cooke 48 Loughborough, - omnibus proprieter Thomas Cooke 24 Matlock, - omnibus driver Still can't find the missing ones though! As dad was the proprieter of the omnibus company you'd have thought tthey would have stayed close to home working for him.

Hi Jess Well ' Hold the front page' You were kindly trying to find, without success, my grt grandparents John & Esther Batchelor. were on the 1881 census at 1 Bohn Street Mile End Old Town. &&&&&&&&&&&& I was doing a general search on the updated FRBMD from 1881 & found a ref to Esther Matilda Batchelor marriage in 1893. I then did a check for death of John Batchelor & came up with one in 1884 aged 37! So am going to get the certs. & if correct would explain why not able to find John on 1891 (altho esther should still be there. Got lost on this track as when their son Arthur(my grandad) married his first wife in 1896 his dad wasnt listed as deceaesd on the marriage cert but when he remarried in 1909 to my nan(they were both widowed) John was listed as deceased so I assumed John had died between the two dates. So !!!!!! thanks for your effforts & will let you know what the certs show] Shirley

1891 Cozzi *( if it is you family below, this is the same family 10 years prior but without husband Cozzi, Amsddie under 1/12 Luton, Bedfordshire Son Luton Bedfordshire Cozzi, Julia 33 Wheathamstead, Hertfordshire Head Luton Bedfordshire Cozzi, Marie 3 Luton, Bedfordshire Daughter Luton Bedfordshire Cozzi, Rosina 5 Luton, Bedfordshire Daughter Luton Bedfordshire Source information: RG12/1272 folio 126 page 2 Registration district: Luton Sub registration district: Luton ED, institution, or vessel: 19

Valerie, using the info that you know, couldthis be her in 1901 - maybe/may not Alfred Cozzi 5 Enfield, Middlesex, England Son Enfield Middlesex Ammddie Cozzi 10 Enfield, Middlesex, England Son Enfield Middlesex Emily Cozzi 9 Enfield, Middlesex, England Daughter Enfield Middlesex Horace Cozzi 1 Enfield, Middlesex, England Son Enfield Middlesex Julia Cozzi 32 Hertfordshire, England Wife Enfield Middlesex Lilley Cozzi 7 Enfield, Middlesex, England Daughter Enfield Middlesex Marie Cozzi 13 Enfield, Middlesex, England Daughter Enfield Middlesex Rose Cozzi 15 Luton, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Enfield Middlesex Vencenzo Cozzi 35 Italy Head Enfield Middlesex Source information: RG13/1271 folio 112 page 14 Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Enfield ED, institution, or vessel: 12 jess x

valerie. i would assume this is their marriage BANKS, Ernest John 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex BROOKS, Ella 1909 June Marriages Buckingham Buckinghamshire Oxfordshire CLARKSON, Edith 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex *COZZI, Marie Mazzone 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex *FORGE, Harry Frank 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex WALLEDGE, Edith 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex BANKS, Ernest John 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex BROOKS, Ella 1909 June Marriages Buckingham Buckinghamshire Oxfordshire CLARKSON, Edith 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex *COZZI, Marie Mazzone 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex *FORGE, Harry Frank 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex WALLEDGE, Edith 1909 June Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex Quarter: June Year: 1909 District: Edmonton County: Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 793 ( any idea where Harry was born , brothers and sisters names or his fathers name? Jess

Go on then Robert! Post away! Jess x

hi jess thanks for the info,it does seem that they had moved out of the country,the only other info i have is that samual dony died in montevideo south america 1915.thanks again for your help.rob

hi jess thanks anyway, but can you tell me how i obtain marraige cert from appleby westmoreland, england if i have no reference to go on I have both sarah and william turner's death certificates which gives the names of their parents but not where they were born on roberts dated 1881 it says he died aged 48 and that his parents were william turner (chelsea pensioner) and graces stewart both deceased any suggestions where to look thanks again have a nice easter janice

away now for easter , will catch up prob monday jess

Jess. James Robinson christened 12th Dec 1852 was registered Dec qtr 1852, so he would have been 38/39 yrs old on the 1891. He was born in Portsea Portsmouth and the parents were living in Kent Street Portsea. James Richard Robinson christened 19th July 1886 was registered Sept qtr 1886, so he would have been 5 yrs old in 1891. He was born in Portsmouth. John Robinson christened 23rd Dec 1809 would have been 62 in the 1871 Census. He was born in Gosport Hants and married Maria Stacey in 1852. Thanks Jan

Janice - can't access Scotland also 'who' says chelsea pensioner and when? jess

norma -census wont tell me about a marriage C1920. ancestry BMD are sparce at that time jess

Robert. have looked for Dony - nothing at all in either census. have reduced the criteria to Alice born 1859 +/- 2 years, born L'pool. resident L'pool and nothing even remotely likely! will look again but could they have been out of the country? Jess

Hi jess thank you for your kind offer, i am trying to trace a robert Turner born 1833, married to Sarah Killoch, born 1836 married 1/8/1857 in Appleby Westmoreland Cumbria not sure if this is possible for you to look up on bdm I have siblings birth certs. and both death certs. i am trying to trace where they were born as i know siblings all registered in paisley scotland and believe Killoch to be a scottish name - says father william turner was a chelsea pensioner so dont know how to proceed there any suggestions would be most grateful as im a novice thanks again janice

hi jess could you look in the 1891/1901 census for a alice jane dony born in liverpool about 1859 .children were samual born 1878,alice jane born 1883,address in 1881 census was 34 great crosshall street liverpool,occupation was a licensed victualar.her maiden name was toman and she married a charles michael dony in 1877.thanks for your help .rob

Jan, do you know if they were chistened soon after birth, for an indication of ages? Jess

Bruce Bust household! - George John Byron 22 Husbands Bosworth, Leicestershire, England Lodger St Mary Nottinghamshire John Campion 26 Nottinghamshire, England Son St Mary Nottinghamshire Mary Ann Campion 57 Nottinghamshire, England Wife St Mary Nottinghamshire Stephen Campion 50 Nottinghamshire, England Head St Mary Nottinghamshire William Forbes 23 Nottinghamshire, England Lodger St Mary Nottinghamshire Arthur Hetches 2 Nottinghamshire, England Nurse Child St Mary Nottinghamshire Henry Larance 8 Nottinghamshire, England Orphan St Mary Nottinghamshire Ann Wood 23 Nottinghamshire, England St Mary Nottinghamshire George Henry Wood 9 months Nottinghamshire, England Son St Mary Nottinghamshire Mary Ann Wood 4 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Mary Nottinghamshire RG10/3511 Folio 56 P.16 address 25 Water St Nottingham