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Thank you Mike Youv'e been a great help Bev

Greeting’s Again John…… Sorry but there are NO Thomas TOMKINS within the age range you’ve given On the 1851. Census for the City of Leicester. The only persons coming from Northamptonshire on this Census are as follows:- Sarah TOMLINSON. Widow. 80. Born Daventry. Chris TOMLINSON. 18. App. Born Kettering. Samuel TOMKINS. 52. F.W.K. Born Kettering. John TOMKINS.59. Supper Invalid. Born Kettering. I’ve not attempted the 1841. Census as this will involve trawling Through some 40 Folders each with 50 pages and 50 names per page. Which would amount to a weeks work and that’s only for the City only. And the information given on these early Census will only give:- Name. Age. Occupation of Head, and weather born within the County or not. So if we do find a Thomas (NOT born within the County) we’ll not know If it's for Northamptonshire or not …… MIKE.

Mike, again many thanks for your time and effort. Cannot understand why Samuel TOMKINS appears on the 1851 and his first son Thomas 1820 does not ?, is St George's within the City boundary?. Regards Jon

Greeting's Again John.... I wonder if there has been a transcribe error ? On the 1851. Census there is a Thomas TOMKIN aged 31. Living at No. 31 Needle Gate but states born Leicester. Where as Samuel TOMKIN. 52. is living at 57, Needle Gate. states born Kettering Northamptonshire. Needle Gate is definitely in the parish of St. Margaret's. Just wonder if the enumerator or transcriber got carried away and put Thomas down as born Leicester ? And YES the Parish of St. George is within the City Centre. the Church is next door to the Odeon Cinema (Queens Street ) if you can remember that.... MIKE.

Mike, Many thanks, that could be the answer, could I please have the 1851 transcript for Thomas TOMKIN and Samuel TOMKIN. The Odeon, remember it well, met my wife there on a blind date back in 1957, dont ask me what the film was !!!!!!!!!!. Jon

Greeting’s Again John. ……. So you too just went for the sound track then ? …lol :0) and it's just been done out and returned to it's original condistion... 2089. 1851. Census. 285 482 15 68 31 NEEDLE GATE THOMAS TOMKINS HEAD M 31 M FWK. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 286 482 15 68 31 NEEDLE GATE SELINA TOMKINS WIFE M 35 F WORSTED SPINNER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 2089. 1851. Census. 303 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE SAMUEL TOMKINS HEAD M 52 M FWK . NTH. KETTERING. NTH KETTERING 304 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE ELIZABETH TOMKINS WIFE M 50 F FWK. SCT. = SCOTLAND. SCT 305 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE ANN TOMKINS DAU U 29 F SEAMER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 306 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE JOHN TOMKINS SON U 27 M FWK. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 307 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE WILLIAM TOMKINS SON U 18 M FWK. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 308 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE JOSEPH TOMKINS SON 12 M WINDER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 309 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE ELIZABETH TOMKINS DAU U 20 F FANCY STITCHER (HOSIERY) LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 310 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE LOUISA TOMKINS GDAU 11 F SEAMER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 311 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE RACHEL TOMKINS DAU 10 F SEAMER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 312 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE JAMES TOMKINS SON 8 M WINDER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 313 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE AMBROSE TOMKINS SON 6 M . LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 314 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE ELIZA TOMKINS GDAU 2 F LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. Now in the dark dim past you asked me to keep my eyes peeled for a Tompkins as a Minister ? 1841. Census. HO 107 / 604. / 10. / Page. 36. St. Margaret’s Parish. Bow Street. William TOMPKINS.30. Minister. Not born within the County. Elizabeth Perkins. 15. Female Servant. Born within the County. © Crown Copyright National Archives. MIKE.

hi bev,looking for family of d n bates stephenson drive leicester,his war medals are on ebay ,trying to trace family,he was in royal navy in ww1 so he should be on 1901 census,long shot i know ,but any help to get medals back to family ,would be great,regards tony

Can anybody help on the above ive looked on 1901 census as anyone got any ideas please Bev

Greeting's Beverly..... Sorry no one showing with D N Bates on 1901..... just going to have a look on the 1891. ... Update..... 1891. RG 12 865 / Folder 52. / Page. 12. Portsmouth. Portsea Island. Members of crew. HMS Active. Daniel Bates. Age 17. Ships Boy. b. All Saints. Northampton. MIKE.

Thanks Mike Ive passed info on I told him id looked and you had looked on 1901 but couldnt find anything and you had come up for that one on 1891. Without a first name youv'e not got a lot to go on. Im one of the lucky ones ive got my Dads and Grandads medals Bev

Hi Mike Tony said thankyou for looking for Bates Hi Pat The only Tony Mantle birth Melton Mowbray And Married To An Elizabeth was one born in 1843 On 1901 Census Plymouth Devon Thomas Head 58 Melton Mowbray Naval pensioner Elizabeth wife 58 Crabtree Devon If this is the one you will be better of asking Mike ive not got any Census before 1871 and if he was in the navy he might not be on later ones i dont know how it works if you were in forces Beverly

Greeting's Patrica.... Didn't show on the 1861 Leicestershire Census... BUT I think this is your chap on the 1871. Census ? RG 12 3444 / 33 / Page 24. Gainsborough. Back Street. Robert Mantle. Head Mar. 34. Tailor. b Little Dalby Leicestershire. Mary. Wife. 34. b. Thornton. Leicestershire. Frank. Son. 11. Scholar. b. Leicester. Henry. Son. 6. Ditto. b Ditto. Harriett. dau. 4. Ditto. b. Gainsborough. Lizzy. Dau. 2. b. Gainsborough. Mills. Son. 3 Months Old. b Gainsborough. THOMAS MANTLE. Nephew. 17 . Tailor b. Melton Mowbray. © Crown Copyright National Archives. UPDATE....... Sorry Patrica.... I forgot i had a disk for those villages which are in Leicestershire but come under another County..... 1861. Census. RG 9. 2304. / 109. / Page 1. Edmondthorpe. Hall House. Rectory House. John. B. Mantle. Head. Mar. 31. Groom. b Litle Dalby. Leicestershire. Ann. Wife. 33. b Scalford Leicestershire. THOMAS SON. 8. Scholar. b. Melton Mowbray. William. Son. 6. Scholar. b. Melton. (Twin A ?) Henry. Son. 6. Scholar. b. Melton. ( Twin B ? ) Mary. Dau. 5. Scholar. b. Melton. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. MIKE.

please can anyone help ,im at a stand still with my tree im looking for wartnaby's from leicestershire , any help would be great ,thanks julie

Can anyone help as Ive hit a brick wall! Im looking for a John William Peet, all I know is he married in june 1885. Dont have a wifes name but his last child was called Francis Ethel b1904. Any info would be great! Loraine

Greeting's & Welcome Julie.... Have you any Christan names, and villages and what Census years are you seeking ? If you could post them back here Then I'll try and help you ..... MIKE.

John William Peet birth 1862 Oakham Rutland 7a 241 Married Caroline Alice lucas june 1885 7a 357 on 1891 Census Leicester under pert John William Head 28 oakham cycle enamaler Caroline wife 25 Leicestershire Nellie daughter 3 leicestershire John James son 5 Months Edith Emma Daughter 5 sorry i couldnt find them on 1901 Beverly

Thats brilliant, thanks! Were there any children listed for john and caroline? Sorry but I just want to be really sure Ive finally got the right couple! Loraine

Just read back what I wrote and I meant to say any other children! I didnt know any of my grandmothers siblings names, but she was born 29/11/1904 in Leicester. Any chance you would be able to confirm this

Greeting's Loraine..... Birth conformation :- Jan. Feb. Mar. Qrt. 1905. FRANCES ETHEL PEET. Leicester. Certificate No. 7 a. 230. Beverly..... you just beat me to it could get their index up as Peet ( Leicester Disk ) But not the Image no wonder if they came under Pert Nice one..... MIKE.

Hi Loraine I dont know if there was any more children as i couldnt find them on 1901 You could confirm mothers name by sending for your grandmothers birth certificate Frances Ethel Peet March 1905 leicester 7a 230 Beverly