Genealogy Chat

Greeting's Wendy..... ' Your very Welcome.....' But if I was you I would ring 1st. ( see Tel. No. ) Peter Cousins is the man you want to speak to There is a possibility that the resources maybe transfered to the new family History Centre Due to be open by early May. MIKE.

Greeting's Julie..... 1851. INDEX ONLY Census returns Vol. 9. Index No's 721. ~801. = Whitwick. Index No. 756. HOLMES. Edward. 37. Harriett. 32. Joseph. 14. Sarah. 8. JOHN. 5. Fanny Holmes. 3. Vol. 24. Index No's 135. ~ 306. = Melton Mowbray. Index. No. 304. ROBINSON. Mary A. 32. Emma. 10. Sebina. 10. Twins ? FANNY. 4. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. Sorry no other details given. 1861. Scanned Census Returns. RG 09 / 2272. / 66. / Page. 28. Whitwick. Whitwick Moor. Edward Holmes. Head. Mar. 50. Coal Miner. b. Staunton Harold. Leicestershire. Harriett. Wife. 45. b. Whitwick. Eliza. Dau. Umar. 22. Dress Maker. b.Staunton Harold. Sarah. Dau. Umar. 19. Seamer. b. Ditto. JOHN. SON. Umar. 16. Collier. b Ditto. Fanny. Dau. Umar. 14. b. Whitwick. Deaf & dumb from birth. William Neal Lodger. Umar. 20. Coal miner. b. Newbold Verdon. Leicestershire. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. No sign of the Robinson Family from Melton after 1851...... But did notice that there was a Family of Robinson's in Whitwick on the 1861. Census Henry born Nottinghamshire. and wife. Sarah.and a Daughter Fanny aged 14..... Wonder if the other Fanny from Melton ever visited ? Seems after the Marriage John & Fanny moved to Nottinghamshire.Annesley from 1871 81. 91. 1901.... But you have that information I believe ?.... Staunton Harold next Village to Lount. and I belive both came under Newbold Coleorton Parish. MIKE.....Time to blow out the candle me thinks...

Mike, Many thanks for taking time out to look, The John holmes from newbold, has the wrong father, but is the only one I could find as well. Fanny, dont know if Mary Ann is her mother, but know her father is John Robinson, The henry robinson from whitwick Had a daughter called Fanny, but isnt 'My Fanny'(That one married a Wardle) Not a Holmes. And Yes you're quite correct the family DID move to Annesley, I do have details from '71-1901 census for these. Do you have any other Ideas as to how I can trace John And Fanny???? I just seem to be going around in circles, and getting VERY dispondant indeed, Have death certs, and Marriage cert, even first borns birth cert, but still dont know where to go from here with this brick wall. any Ideas gratefully recieved many thanks Julie

BIG BIG THANK YOU MIKE, you've knocked a few bricks out of my wall. Just have to peep through and hope i can see some light. Once again thanks , Jayne

Greeting's Again Jayne..... ' Your very Welcome '.... If I can help you further then please post on this thread and we'll see what developes...... MIKE.

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Mike Hello again - have put the transcribing on hold for a day - need to sort out some TOMKINS problems. I have a Joseph b1837, James b1839, Sarah Ann b1842 and Matilda b1845 all born to Thomas and Ann, my problem is, the only marriage details I can find for them was in 1851, is it possible that Thomas was previously married to a different Ann?. the 1851 marriage was to Ann RENNIE. Regards Jon ex Leicester

Greeting's Again John.... Sorry NO Thomas & Ann (In any spelling ) in the City found.... One in the County though :- Thomas Thomas Tompkin. ~ Ann Stevens. Grimston ( NNW of Melton Mowbray ) 1834. By Banns. MIKE.

Hi Mike Am looking for a marriage just before 1837 between Ann Eld and William Hurst if you can help, have not been here for a while so hope you are keeping well and not overdosed! Elaine

Hi All Does anyone have access to the 1841 census for Leicester/ Elaine

Hi Mike Sorry to be a pain, if you cannot find the marriage, would you be able to find a birth/chritening for Ann eld. Am trying to tie her in with the Eld's who were with her and all the siblings someone kindly let me know about, I just cannot find her. She is as elusive as the Hursts she gives birth to later!!! I am hoping she is the daughter of Joseph and Ann Eld. Many thanks Elaine

Mike OK, Thanks for trying. Can we try another approach, can u give me details from 1841 and 1851 census for Thomas TOMKINS b1807(Northampton) and Thomas TOMKINS b1820(Leicester)?. Many thanks Jon

Ey up Mike I can't stay away. Have tackled my Goadbys again today. Some time ago you were able to give me the following marriage and death entries: St. Margaret's Church Leicester. Entry No.122, DEC 22, 1867, after Banns JOSEPH GOADBY, 22, bach. RIVETER, of PINGLE St, s. of JOSEPH GOADBY, FWK ANN BODYCOTE, 19, sp. of WILLOW St, d. of CHARLES BODYCOTE, FWK Wits: THOMAS GOADBY, SARAH GOADBY. and Welford Road Cemetery :- Names. / Dates. / Age. / Last known address./ Parish Area. C = Consecrated Ground. N = Section. 175. = Plot No. C = Common Land. 19001. = Burial No. GOADBY JOSEPH 14 SEP 1877 32 PALMERSTON STREET SAINT MARGARET PARISH C N 175 C 19001 I have made considerable progress now and know that Ann Goadby had two further relationships after Joseph's death, to a Mr Smith, by whom she had a son Arthur born about 1882 and to a Mr Riley, by whom she had a daugher Annie born about 1886. In the 1891 and 1901 censuses she described herself as married and gives the names Smith and Riley respectively, but there is no sign of the husbands. I've looked at the 1837 site without any great success. Do you by any chance have marriage entries? In summary she was Goadby in 1871, Smith in 1891 and Riley in 1901. Can't find her at all under any name on the 1881. Cheers Mike Sheila

Greeting’s Again Elaine…. Below is the only Marriages for Eld Found :- But these could be brothers to Ann ? St. Margaret’s Parish Church….. Entry No.275, OCT 22, 1843, after Banns ROBERT ELD, full age, bach. GARDENER, of RUSSELL St, s. of JOSEPH ELD, GARDENER LYDIA WESTON, full age, sp. of HILL St, d. of JOSEPH WESTON, LABOURER Wits: THOMAS PERCY, MARY PERCIVAL St. Margaret’s Parish Church. :- Entry No.261, DEC 24, 1846, after Banns WILLIAM ELD, full age, bach. GARDENER, of SHORT St, s. of JOSEPH ELD, GARDENER MARY ANNE FLETCHER, full age, sp. of HILL St, d. of WILLIAM FLETCHER, WHEEL WRIGHT Wits: THOS. STURGESS, SARAH FLETCHER. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. 1841. Scanned Census Images. :- HO 107 / 604 / 10 / Page. 5. St. Margaret’s Parish. Russell Square. William Hurst. 40. Gardener Martha. 40. Seamer. Mary. 20. Worsted Spinner. Charlotte. 15. Ditto. Ann. 10. Sewer of Gloves. George. 8. All born within the County. HO 107 / 604. / 10. / Page. 9. St. Margaret’s Parish. Russell Street. Joseph Eld. 50. Gardener. Mary. 30. George. 20. Gardener. Thomas. 20. Frame Work Knitter. William 15.Gardener. Robert. 15. Ditto. All born within the County. © Crown Copyright National Archives. I’ve not found Ann & William Hurst as a Family But there is only another 950 names to go through And that’s just for St. Margaret’s Parish….. MIKE>

Greeting’s Again Sheila……. Did you find this one for 1881. ? Dwelling: 49 Walnut St Census Place: Leicester St Mary, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341757 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3173 Folio 121 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary CLEMENTS W 67 F South Croxton, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Dispensers Widow Sam CLEMENTS U 23 M Leicester, England Rel: Son Occ: Clicker Shoe Trade Kate CLEMENTS U 29 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker Sarah CLEMENTS U 27 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Machinist Shoe * Annie GOADBY M 32 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Commercial Travellers Wife Alice M. GOADBY 1 F Leicester, England Rel: Grand Daur © Crown Copyright National Archives. Not sure if I can find any marriages but I’ll have a look latter on tonight…… MIKE.

Hi Mike I thought the Eld's would be simple, have all the family but not my Ann so am ploughing through. Hopefully the marriage will appear somewhere eventually. Thanks as always Elaine

Ey up Mike Now you see my difficulty! That's the only Annie Goadby I can find and it's not the right one. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't know all three lived well into the twentieth century. Sheila

Mike, sorry to be a pain, I know you've already helped me I was just wondering if you have any other Ideas as to how I can trace John And Fanny???? ( Holmes/Robinson) I just seem to be going around in circles, and getting VERY dispondant indeed, Have death certs, and Marriage cert, even first borns birth cert, but still dont know where to go from here with this brick wall. any Ideas gratefully recieved many thanks Julie

Hi Mike As Im stuck with others ive decided to go back to Packwoods can you look on 1841or 1851 please for a John Packwood Birth 1825 Foxton Thank you Bev

Greeting’s Again Beverly…… Here he is in 1851. Scanned census Index for the City of Leicester.:- WELLINGTON STREET JOHN PACKWOOD HEAD M 26 M SHOEMAKER LEI FOXTON WELLINGTON STREET ANN PACKWOOD WIFE M 26 F SHOE BINDER LEI LEICESTER WELLINGTON STREET JOSEPH PACKWOOD SON 1 M LEI LEICESTER © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. And again in 1861. Scanned Census Images.:- RG 9 / 2298 / Folder 138 / Page. 28. St. Mary De Castro Parish. No. 20. Middle Street. John Packwood. Head. Mar. 36. Shoe Maker b. Foxton. Leicestershire. Ann Wife. 37. Shoe Binder b . Leicester. Joseph. Son. 7. Scholar b. Leicester. Sarah. Dau. 5. Scholar b. Leicester. Emma. Dau. 3. Scholar b. Leicester. John. Son. 1. b. Leicester. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. Burials for Packwood Foxton. Name / Dates. / Age. PACKWOOD JOSEPH 16 JUL 1815 56 PACKWOOD JEMIMA 14 APR 1816 11 MTHS PACKWOOD SARAH 21 DEC 1816 2 PACKWOOD JOHN 31 DEC 1816 4 PACKWOOD WILLIAM 14 FEB 1823 59 PACKWOOD EDWARD 19 NOV 1823 4 PACKWOOD JOHN 23 MAR 1825 3 PACKWOOD SARAH 09 JAN 1828 INF PACKWOOD ELIZABETH 23 APR 1831 9 WKS PACKWOOD ELIZABETH 21 OCT 1831 54 PACKWOOD JAMES 01 NOV 1833 27 PACKWOOD JOSIAH 30 DEC 1840 3 PACKWOOD * JOSEPH 28 AUG 1866 67 PACKWOOD * MARGARET 19 APR 1870 65 PACKWOOD JOSEPH ROBERT 29 JUL 1888 51 © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. This might be John’s parents ? HO 107 / 590 / 02. Foxton. Silver Street. Joseph Packwood. 42. Ag. Lab. Margaret. 34. Ann. 11. Joseph. 9. All born within the County. Marriage Found :- Joseph Packwood. ~ Margaret Hughes. Foxton. 1821. By Banns. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. MIKE.