Genealogy Chat

Hi Mike Your e-mail got through but I think it was intended for Sheila Elaine

Ey up - Mike I'd just like to thank you for all the information you have posted on here for me. I really appreciate it. Thanks again Sheila

Greeting's Again Elaine & Sheila...... ' Sorry Ladies '..... Writes note to myself ' Must pay more attention '.... MIKE.

Greeting's Again Robert .... In answer to your quest to find address ...... I think it's best if you can pick up a copy of the 1841. Census for Matlock or Derbyshire on disk Have you tried Stepping Stones Ltd. ? They do Census Disks. Or the Derbyshire Family History Society. But having said that the 1841. census is very basic and with a bit of luck the enumerator has put the Street / Road name but NO house No's in the left hand column but don't hold your breath.... MIKE.

Hi mike Just to let you know that the right birth certificate has arrived for Hannah Warner. Hurraah!!! (:O))) The down side is her mothers maiden name is guess what ? Smith!! Thank you for your help Geraldine

Greeting's Geradine........ ' All together now ....SUGARLUMPS !!! ' Lets hope this Smith spelt with two F's ? ....(Leicester Lingo) Grabs for the PROZAC...... But at lest the detective work was right..... OK..... my slack time is usually Mon ~ Thurs's..... SHOOT ....lol :0) MIKE.

Hi Mike Just to let you know had a phone call tonight from the vicar of Copt Oak he's only just got my letter as he is now in Burton on Trent. The board has'nt been altered at the church.He is sending my letter back to the new vicar. So I shall have to wait a bit longer. Geraldine

Greeting's Again Geraldine..... ' Best plans of Mice and Men '....... Oh Dear......One step forward two back... Let's hope the new Vicar is into genealogy then..... MIKE.

To be nudged in front of part 4. Hope this is right. Margaret

Hi Mike. Different family request. Long lost relative in Vancouver been in touch. Need to verify a name spelling. My relation JAMES DAWES born 1853 in Swadlincote married SARAH MILLWARD OR MILLARD who was from Leicestershire. They married 31.10.1876 so my Canadian cousin says. Could you check and give me any details you can about Sarah Millward or Millard. I can't trace a marriage in Derbyshire. Thanks Margaret. Ps makes a change from searching for EDWARD Heawood.

Youve cracked it Margaret Beverly

Greeting's Margaret..... I think this is the couple on the 1881.Census.... Dwelling: Hill St Census Place: Church Gresley, Derby, England Source: FHL Film 1341660 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2757 Folio 16 Page 25 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James DAWES M 55 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Head Occ: Bricklayers Labourer Hannah DAWES M 55 F Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Wife Elijah DAWES U 19 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Son Occ: Coal Miner John H. DAWES U 16 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Son Occ: Pipe Bend Maker Terra Cotta Wks George DAWES U 13 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Son Occ: Labourer Brick Works William HINDER M 25 M Mandwick, Gloucester, England Rel: Son In Law Occ: Labourer Brick Works Edith HINDER M 21 F Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Daur James W. HINDER U 10 m M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Grandson James DAWES M 28 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Sarah DAWES M 26 F Ashby, Leicester, England Rel: Wife Occ: Wool Worker. © Crown Copyright National Archives. Now I have some info to work on I'll see what I can come up with on earlier census... MIKE.

Back Again... It's MILLARD...... 1861. Scanned census Image. RG 9. / 2269. / Folder. 89. / Page. 13. Ashby De La Zouch. Off market Street. ' Turks Head Yard.' Thomas MILLARD. Head. Mar. 49. Shoe Maker. b. Diseworth. Leicestershire. Mary. Wife. 43. b. Swepstone , Leicestershire. Frederick Son. 12. Scholar. b. Ashby De La Zouch. Leicestershire. SARAH. Dau. 6. Scholar. b. Ashby De La Zouch. Louisa. Dau. 3. Scholar. b. Ashby De La Zouch. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. There was NO SARAH MILLWARD on the 1861. Census... MIKE.

I have a few rellies in Leicestershire - Cherrys and (dare I say!) Smiths. My current brick wall is Anne Smith born in Appleby in 1810 ish. I would love more details about her as she is my gggggrandmother. Thanks for any help alice

Greeting's Margaret..... Oh My....The plot thickens... 1851. INDEX ONLY Census. Vol. 12. Ashby De La Zouch. Index No. 530. MILLWARD. Thomas. 39. Mary. 33. John. 15. William. 14. Ann. 12. Mary. 10. Alice. 7. Thomas. 4. FREDERICK. 2. And in Diseworth. Vol. 20. Index. N. 240. Joseph. MILLWOOD. 67. (which could be Thomas's Father.) © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. So we now have Millard, Millward, Millwood. You want the coin to toss up with ? MIKE.

Greeting's & Welcome Alice..... Now there are two Appleby's .... Appleby Magna. and Appleby Parva.... But the Parva Village although in Leicestershire came under South Derbyshire on early Census... Due to the early dates given it would mean that your Anne Smith would be approx 31. and so could well be married and have changed her surname...... Plus compulsory recording of births didn't become Law it 1837...so any records would be under a 'Christening' and these would be in the Parish Records So to find these Christening records you will have to trawl through the Parish Records on fiches at the Records Office at Wigston or your might be able to order them through a Latter Day Saints Family History Centre at a cost of £2.70.p. per fiches but there will be a five day working day notice required but they are held for you for 28 days.... But I've had a look on the 1841. census returns images for Appleby Magna The following are the Smith's in Appleby Magna 1841. :- HO 107/600/01/ Page 11. ' Over Street.' Ann Smith. 85. Pauper Widow. born within the County. also on the same page Eliza Smith. 11. born within the County. Farm Servant to William Laband. 60. Farmer. Page 10. 'Over Street.' George Smith. 18. NOT born within the County. Farm servant to James Wyatt's 76. Farmer. Page. 6. 'Over Town Street.' Hannah Smith. 17. born within the County. Female servant to James Arnold. 40. Farmer. © Crown Copyright National Archives. Marriages found within a few miles radius of Appleby.:- Anne Smith. ~ Thomas Wetton. Nether seal. 1832. By Banns. Anne Smith. ~ George Cooper. Norton-Juxta-Twycross. 1833. By Banns. Anne Smith ~ Stephen Sheeton. Market Bosworth. 1833. By Licence. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. MIKE.

Hello Mike, Thank you for your reply. I think she was Appleby magna. Last night I found an ann on IGI born 1808, father william Mother Mary. Obviously I was dozy and desperate last night I know she married in 1830's Birmingham ! (it was past 12!) Any sign of William and Mary? I am now nearly fully awake - But Smiths are soooo confusing and I have 3 unrelated branches in my tree already. including a John Smith.... I also have lots of cherry relatives - will look up details before I post. Hope you don't mind helping.. A Alice

If anyone fancies a challenge: I hardly dare ask! Can anyone do a 1861/51/ look up for John Smith I know this is stretching things a bit far but I am looking for John Smith born Wigston Magna Leicestershire about 1842. He is on the IGI but (would you believe?) No parents listed. Thank you to anyone brave enough to help! Alice

Hi Mike Once again the super star. Obviously Sarah MILLARD. The 1861 details will greatly impress my second cousin once removed in Canada. The following Dawes info 1881 is exactly right. I will email her and your fame will grow world wide. Thanks Margaret

Greeting's Again Margaret... ' Your very Welcome ' ' Good here ain't it ' ....lol :0)) MIKE.