Genealogy Chat

tHANKS FOR THAT JESS CAN YOU PLEASE CHECK ON 1901 CENSUS WHETHER MY GGRANDMOTHER ELIZA ELIZABETH GREEN WAS STILL LIVING AT THE SAME ADDRESS AS SHE WAS 10 YEARS PREVIOUSLY (IN 1891 SHE WAS IN EMELY STREET ASTON BIRMINGHAM) AS THIS WILL CONFIRM WHETHER OR NOT SHE REMARRIED AFTER THE DEATH OF MY GGRANDFATHER REGARDS PAMELA

Green ; 1891 for ref Green, Emily 9 Birmingham Daughter Aston Warwickshire **Green, James 13 Birmingham Son Aston Warwickshire Green, Joseph 8 Birmingham Son Aston Warwickshire Green, Robert Walter 49 Birmingham Head Aston Warwickshire Green, Samuel 3 Birmingham Son Aston Warwickshire Green, William 3 Birmingham Son Aston Warwickshire Johnson, Albert F 21 Birmingham, Aston Head Aston Warwickshire Green, Eliza Elizabeth 39 Birmingham Wife Aston Warwickshire **Green, Elizabeth 17 Birmingham Daughter Aston Warwickshire Green, Ellen 10 Birmingham Daughter Aston Warwickshire ** you want those two 10 years on, i think best match for james i can find is Richard Babbidge 25 Oswestry, Shropshire, England Boarder Bristol Gloucestershire James Green 22 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Boarder Bristol Gloucestershire John Wootten 56 Ilminster, Somerset, England Head Bristol Gloucestershire Mina Maria Wootten 50 Donhead St Andrew, Wiltshire, England Wife Bristol Gloucestershire Walter Brice Wootten 15 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son Bristol Gloucestershire There are hundreds of marriages for Elizabeth Green in warwickshire and no idea who she married so that is fruitless In terms of Elizabeth Green's born Birmingham showng in 1901 they are all wives so none are any good. (if she was married it is unlikely she'd still be a Green!)

Sally, Mabel is in Bramley in 1901 Annie Dickinson 17 Bramley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bramley Yorkshire Fred Dickinson 11 Bramley, Yorkshire, England Son Bramley Yorkshire George Dickinson 45 Bramley, Yorkshire, England Head Bramley Yorkshire George Dickinson 8 Bramley, Yorkshire, England Son Bramley Yorkshire Hilda Dickinson 15 Bramley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bramley Yorkshire James A Dickinson 45 Bramley, Yorkshire, England Wife Bramley Yorkshire John Dickinson 13 Bramley, Yorkshire, England Son Bramley Yorkshire Mabel Dickinson 10 Bramley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bramley Yorkshire Stella Dickinson 2 Bramley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bramley Yorkshire Edith Fanning 17 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Servant Bramley Yorkshire and truck loads of Cooper but not Frederick as such. cant find a fredrick Cooper born Bramley anywhere else either! GGGrrrr

Norma - something not quite right there! You have found Esther in 1881 aged 38 -with a son born in 1845... If this Esther was 38 in 1881 she was born in 1843. was her son REALLy born in 1845? her first born was he? ;-))))) Jess

Jess I don't know, am waiting for his daughter's (Dorothy) birth certificate, which might help, but am assuming that he lived in Bramley.

Sorry Jess she was living with her mum and dad and they were Robert Walter Green Eliza Elizabeth Green

Sally. Did fredrick Cooper have siblings or parents, or have been born anywhere..... can list prob 100 Fredrick coopers in Yorkshire but wouldn't get anyone anywhere!! Jess :-)

Hi Jess - am having trouble locating the following: Frederick Cooper married Mabel Dickinson in 1915 in Bramley Yorkshire. Mabel was born in 1891 I think so his birth date would be round about then prob. but can't find the b.gg.er anywhere. Heres hoping Love Sally ps cos of my dogy monitor, I may not be able to pick up a reply til tomorrow

Pamela- who was she with in 1891 - parents names would help,

Hi Jess , can you look up 1901 for Elizabeth green she was on the 1891 census aged 17 and living with her parents in Birmingham ( Emely street Bordesley_ maybe she was married by 1901 and i don't know anything else about her sorry.... also her brother James Green aged 13 on 1891 census in Birmingham if you have the time can you look in BMD fer the death of Eliza Elizabeth Green nee Arculus she was born in 1854 and died i think about 1925/6 regards Pamela

Thank you. I think i will have to in order to see who she married and whether Harriet Brown was the right person. Thank you so much for all the help you have given me and all the time you have spent trying to help me find Harriet's parents. I really appreciate it. Amy

Amy. Here is the maarriage ref for harriet MYNOT- usually there are four names on aa page 2 women and 2men and then it's a Guess/prove Game as to who was married to who - in this case there is only one name on the page, You could order the cert with this ref to see who she did marry, Name: Mynott, Harriet Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1879 District: Linton County: Cambridgeshire Essex Volume: 3b Page: 1115

Re: Harriet Mynott Hi Jess, i got the name Mynott from another person who had researched my dads side of the family tree. I had just assumed it was correct. I showed the family tree to my grandad (Harriet's grandson) a while back to see whether he thought it was correct and i think he assumed it was. To be honest though i dont think he knew what her maiden name was. How could i prove that Harriet Brown is the same person as Harriet Ager? I tried looking up the marriage on Freebmd but i couldnt find it. Thank you for your help - at least ive got that other Harriet ruled out lol.

Karkheck post 1901 records Karkheck, Alfred William G 1905 June Births West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Florence Elizabeth 1902 June Births West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Frederick 1908 December Births Romford Essex Karkheck, Harry 1903 June Deaths Poplar London Middlesex Karkheck, Lilian Urserla 1906 June Births West Ham Essex Greater London ARKHECK, Maud 1904 September Births West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Richard 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Richard 1906 June Births West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Richard Arthur 1906 December Births Romford Essex KARKHECK, William F 1909 March Deaths West Ham Essex Greater London

1901 Karkheck - Rebecca has become dutch! Henry Barkley 30 Poplar, London, England Boarder East Ham Essex Grace Karkheck 14 East Ham, Essex, England Daughter East Ham Essex Henry Karkheck 60 Germany Head East Ham Essex Rebecca Karkheck 49 Deu Foreign Subj Wife East Ham Essex Elizabeth is visiting Sorrell Family Elizabeth L Karkheck 23 West Ham, Essex, England Visitor Cann Hall Essex Annie M Sorrell 49 Limehouse, London, England Mother Cann Hall Essex Florence K Sorrell 29 Bow, London, England Wife Cann Hall Essex Henry H Sorrell 24 Bow, London, England Brother Cann Hall Essex Herbert G Sorrell 11 Wanstead, Essex, England Son Cann Hall Essex James J Sorrell 28 Bow, London, England Head Cann Hall Essex William F Sorrell 9 Wanstead, Essex, England Son Cann Hall Essex and some grandchildren with the Crow family (assume 1 daughter married a Crow?) Henry J Crow 18 Plaistow, Essex, England Son East Ham Essex Isaac J Crow 11 East Ham, Essex, England Son East Ham Essex Isaac John Crow 50 Hackney, London, England Head East Ham Essex John Crow 8 East Ham, Essex, England Son East Ham Essex Lily J Crow 14 East Ham, Essex, England Daughter East Ham Essex Mary A Crow 48 St Luke, Middlesex, England Wife East Ham Essex Walter F Crow 4 East Ham, Essex, England Son East Ham Essex Ada E Karkheck 25 Hoxton, Middlesex, England Daughter East Ham Essex Ernest Karkheck 6 Islington, Middlesex, England Grandson East Ham Essex John R Karkheck 1 East Ham, Essex, England Grandson East Ham Essex

Karkheck 1881 Ann Karkheck abt 1867 London, London, Middlesex, England Daughter West Ham Elizabeth Karkheck abt 1875 West Ham, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Fredich Karkheck abt 1871 London, London, Middlesex, England Son West Ham Henrick Karkheck abt 1837 Germany Head West Ham Herman Karkheck abt 1869 London, London, Middlesex, England Son West Ham John Karkheck abt 1866 London, London, Middlesex, England Son West Ham Mary Karkheck abt 1880 West Ham, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Rebecca Karkheck abt 1847 Norfolk, England Wife West Ham Richard Karkheck abt 1880 West Ham, Essex, England Son West Ham 1891 ann is a servant Karkheck, Ann 25 East Ham, Essex Servant West Ham Essex looking for the others........(mis -spelled!) Karkheak, Alfred 7 East Ham, Essex Son East Ham Karkheak, Alice M 8 East Ham, Essex Daughter East Ham Essex Karkheak, Elizabeth 14 East Ham, Essex Daughter East Ham Essex Karkheak, Geard H 50 HAN Head East Ham Essex Karkheak, Grace 4 East Ham, Essex Daughter East Ham Essex Karkheak, Rebecca 42 Norfolk Wife East Ham Essex Karkheak, Richard 12 East Ham, Essex Son East Ham Essex

some Karkheck marriages- Brand, Arthur 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Burgh, Mary Ann 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London **Carkheck, Ann Catherine 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Green, John 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Ann Catherine 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Hitchcock, Sarah Louise 1897 September Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London **Karkheck, Frederick Murrell 1897 September Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Munford, Thomas Charles 1897 September Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Smith, Sarah Annie 1897 September Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Gormely, Mary 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London **Karkheck, Richard 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Smith, Ada 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London TUNNAGE, Walter 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London

Karkheck 1871 as a starting point Welm Currey 79 London, Middlesex, England Visitor Mile End Old Town London Ann C Karkheck 4 Stepney, Middlesex, England Daughter Mile End Old Town London Frk M Karkheck 5 months Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Mile End Old Town London Herman A Karkheck 2 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Mile End Old Town London Jas H Karkheck 5 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Mile End Old Town London Rebecca Karkheck 29 Gt Sexham, Norfolk, England Wife Mile End Old Town London Not sure where Gerd is

Er....maybe not! Thanks...fairly sure its him! Its a weird one all round this cos I have his marriage in 1881 Chelsea BUT on the 1891 census he's 50+ and she's in her 30's. Thought he may have been married before cos late 40's was odd for a 1st marriage back then BUT if he was an active soldier maybe that answers a few questions. I'll get his marriage cert and see whether that gives me any clues Thanks again babe Lou

TONY Karkheck family in the West Ham London area. identification of spouses/children . Gerd Heinrich and Rebecca Karkheck will show up in the census information. They had a number of children. Herman b circa 1869, Frederick b circa 1871, William b circa 1874 Mary b circa 1880, Alice b circa 1882 Grace b circa 1887. (I do have some information on John, Ann, Richard, Alfred and Richard.) some Karkheck births- Name: KARKHECK, Alfred William G Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1884 District: West Ham County: Essex Greater London Volume: 4a page 104 Name: Karkheck, Alice Rebecca Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1883 District: West Ham County: Essex Greater London Volume: 4a page 61 ? Grace? Name: KARKHECK, Ada Grace Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1898 District: West Ham County: Essex Greater London Volume: 4a page 278