Genealogy Chat

amy, right 1901 Annie Ager 7 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Charles Ager 19 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Son Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Elizah Ager 11 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Son Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Esther Ager 4 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Frederick Ager 17 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Son Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Harriet Ager 41 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Wife Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire = MOTHER **Julia Ager 2 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Martha Ager 9 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Milly M Ager 5 months Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Samson Ager 43 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Head Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire =FATHER Walter Ager 15 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Son Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire so lets go back 10 years with that:

amy 1891 Ager, Alfred 3 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire Son Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Ager, Alizah 1 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire Son Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Ager, Charles 9 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire Son Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Ager, Edith 10 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire Daughter Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Ager, Fredrick 7 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire Son Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Ager, Harriet 31 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire Wife Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Ager, Samson 33 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire Head Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire Ager, Walter 6 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire Son Shudy Camps Cambridgeshire

amy 1881 just have first daughter - (that logical) Edith Ager abt 1880 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Castle Camps Harriet Ager abt 1861 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Wife Castle Camps Samson Ager abt 1858 Shudy Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Head Castle Camps ******* The Harriet Minot you originally wondered about is still a servant - so isn't the right one Harriet Mynott abt 1856 West Wickham, Cambridgeshire, England Servant Hadstock

Hi hon Have found a Thomas Hayden aged 33 born Ireland and living in Lancashire on the 1871 Could you tell me who he's with and his occupation? Ta! Lou xx

amy, this is where it will prob all fall over! The only Harriet i can find aged 10 in 1871, born Castle Camps is a Harriet BROWN.Where did you find out Harriet was Nee Mynot? Anne Brown 6 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Great Burstead Essex Elizabeth Brown 37 Holone Bumpstead, Essex, England Wife Great Burstead Essex Harriet Brown 10 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Great Burstead Essex James Brown 10 months Great Burstead, Essex, England Son Great Burstead Essex John Brown 42 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Head Great Burstead Essex John Brown 8 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Son Great Burstead Essex Joseph Brown 2 Little Burstead, Essex, England Son Great Burstead Essex Samuel Brown 4 Castle Camps, Cambridgeshire, England Son Great Burstead Essex

Thats an odd one Lou. He is to all intents and purposes alone in Fullwood barracks. Name: Thomas Hayden Age in 1871: 33 Estimated birth year: 1838 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Dublin, Ireland Civil parish: Fulwood Ecclesiastical parish: Fulwood County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Condition as to marriage:UNMARRIED Education: View Image Employment status: ALL IT SAYS IS 'PRIVATE' Occupation: View Image Source information: RG10/4218 folio 107 page 16 Registration district: Preston Sub-registration district: Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: Fulwood Barracks Folio: 107 Page: 16 Do you REALLY want to know who he is with (50 odd pages!!) x

TONY Karkheck family in the West Ham London area. identification of spouses/children . Gerd Heinrich and Rebecca Karkheck will show up in the census information. They had a number of children. Herman b circa 1869, Frederick b circa 1871, William b circa 1874 Mary b circa 1880, Alice b circa 1882 Grace b circa 1887. (I do have some information on John, Ann, Richard, Alfred and Richard.) some Karkheck births- Name: KARKHECK, Alfred William G Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1884 District: West Ham County: Essex Greater London Volume: 4a page 104 Name: Karkheck, Alice Rebecca Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1883 District: West Ham County: Essex Greater London Volume: 4a page 61 ? Grace? Name: KARKHECK, Ada Grace Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1898 District: West Ham County: Essex Greater London Volume: 4a page 278

Er....maybe not! Thanks...fairly sure its him! Its a weird one all round this cos I have his marriage in 1881 Chelsea BUT on the 1891 census he's 50+ and she's in her 30's. Thought he may have been married before cos late 40's was odd for a 1st marriage back then BUT if he was an active soldier maybe that answers a few questions. I'll get his marriage cert and see whether that gives me any clues Thanks again babe Lou

Karkheck 1871 as a starting point Welm Currey 79 London, Middlesex, England Visitor Mile End Old Town London Ann C Karkheck 4 Stepney, Middlesex, England Daughter Mile End Old Town London Frk M Karkheck 5 months Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Mile End Old Town London Herman A Karkheck 2 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Mile End Old Town London Jas H Karkheck 5 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Mile End Old Town London Rebecca Karkheck 29 Gt Sexham, Norfolk, England Wife Mile End Old Town London Not sure where Gerd is

some Karkheck marriages- Brand, Arthur 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Burgh, Mary Ann 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London **Carkheck, Ann Catherine 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Green, John 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Ann Catherine 1891 June Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Hitchcock, Sarah Louise 1897 September Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London **Karkheck, Frederick Murrell 1897 September Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Munford, Thomas Charles 1897 September Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Smith, Sarah Annie 1897 September Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Gormely, Mary 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London **Karkheck, Richard 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Smith, Ada 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London TUNNAGE, Walter 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London

Karkheck 1881 Ann Karkheck abt 1867 London, London, Middlesex, England Daughter West Ham Elizabeth Karkheck abt 1875 West Ham, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Fredich Karkheck abt 1871 London, London, Middlesex, England Son West Ham Henrick Karkheck abt 1837 Germany Head West Ham Herman Karkheck abt 1869 London, London, Middlesex, England Son West Ham John Karkheck abt 1866 London, London, Middlesex, England Son West Ham Mary Karkheck abt 1880 West Ham, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Rebecca Karkheck abt 1847 Norfolk, England Wife West Ham Richard Karkheck abt 1880 West Ham, Essex, England Son West Ham 1891 ann is a servant Karkheck, Ann 25 East Ham, Essex Servant West Ham Essex looking for the others........(mis -spelled!) Karkheak, Alfred 7 East Ham, Essex Son East Ham Karkheak, Alice M 8 East Ham, Essex Daughter East Ham Essex Karkheak, Elizabeth 14 East Ham, Essex Daughter East Ham Essex Karkheak, Geard H 50 HAN Head East Ham Essex Karkheak, Grace 4 East Ham, Essex Daughter East Ham Essex Karkheak, Rebecca 42 Norfolk Wife East Ham Essex Karkheak, Richard 12 East Ham, Essex Son East Ham Essex

1901 Karkheck - Rebecca has become dutch! Henry Barkley 30 Poplar, London, England Boarder East Ham Essex Grace Karkheck 14 East Ham, Essex, England Daughter East Ham Essex Henry Karkheck 60 Germany Head East Ham Essex Rebecca Karkheck 49 Deu Foreign Subj Wife East Ham Essex Elizabeth is visiting Sorrell Family Elizabeth L Karkheck 23 West Ham, Essex, England Visitor Cann Hall Essex Annie M Sorrell 49 Limehouse, London, England Mother Cann Hall Essex Florence K Sorrell 29 Bow, London, England Wife Cann Hall Essex Henry H Sorrell 24 Bow, London, England Brother Cann Hall Essex Herbert G Sorrell 11 Wanstead, Essex, England Son Cann Hall Essex James J Sorrell 28 Bow, London, England Head Cann Hall Essex William F Sorrell 9 Wanstead, Essex, England Son Cann Hall Essex and some grandchildren with the Crow family (assume 1 daughter married a Crow?) Henry J Crow 18 Plaistow, Essex, England Son East Ham Essex Isaac J Crow 11 East Ham, Essex, England Son East Ham Essex Isaac John Crow 50 Hackney, London, England Head East Ham Essex John Crow 8 East Ham, Essex, England Son East Ham Essex Lily J Crow 14 East Ham, Essex, England Daughter East Ham Essex Mary A Crow 48 St Luke, Middlesex, England Wife East Ham Essex Walter F Crow 4 East Ham, Essex, England Son East Ham Essex Ada E Karkheck 25 Hoxton, Middlesex, England Daughter East Ham Essex Ernest Karkheck 6 Islington, Middlesex, England Grandson East Ham Essex John R Karkheck 1 East Ham, Essex, England Grandson East Ham Essex

Karkheck post 1901 records Karkheck, Alfred William G 1905 June Births West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Florence Elizabeth 1902 June Births West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Frederick 1908 December Births Romford Essex Karkheck, Harry 1903 June Deaths Poplar London Middlesex Karkheck, Lilian Urserla 1906 June Births West Ham Essex Greater London ARKHECK, Maud 1904 September Births West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Richard 1901 December Marriages West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Richard 1906 June Births West Ham Essex Greater London Karkheck, Richard Arthur 1906 December Births Romford Essex KARKHECK, William F 1909 March Deaths West Ham Essex Greater London

Re: Harriet Mynott Hi Jess, i got the name Mynott from another person who had researched my dads side of the family tree. I had just assumed it was correct. I showed the family tree to my grandad (Harriet's grandson) a while back to see whether he thought it was correct and i think he assumed it was. To be honest though i dont think he knew what her maiden name was. How could i prove that Harriet Brown is the same person as Harriet Ager? I tried looking up the marriage on Freebmd but i couldnt find it. Thank you for your help - at least ive got that other Harriet ruled out lol.

Amy. Here is the maarriage ref for harriet MYNOT- usually there are four names on aa page 2 women and 2men and then it's a Guess/prove Game as to who was married to who - in this case there is only one name on the page, You could order the cert with this ref to see who she did marry, Name: Mynott, Harriet Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1879 District: Linton County: Cambridgeshire Essex Volume: 3b Page: 1115

Thank you. I think i will have to in order to see who she married and whether Harriet Brown was the right person. Thank you so much for all the help you have given me and all the time you have spent trying to help me find Harriet's parents. I really appreciate it. Amy

Hi Jess , can you look up 1901 for Elizabeth green she was on the 1891 census aged 17 and living with her parents in Birmingham ( Emely street Bordesley_ maybe she was married by 1901 and i don't know anything else about her sorry.... also her brother James Green aged 13 on 1891 census in Birmingham if you have the time can you look in BMD fer the death of Eliza Elizabeth Green nee Arculus she was born in 1854 and died i think about 1925/6 regards Pamela

Pamela- who was she with in 1891 - parents names would help,

Hi Jess - am having trouble locating the following: Frederick Cooper married Mabel Dickinson in 1915 in Bramley Yorkshire. Mabel was born in 1891 I think so his birth date would be round about then prob. but can't find the b.gg.er anywhere. Heres hoping Love Sally ps cos of my dogy monitor, I may not be able to pick up a reply til tomorrow

Sally. Did fredrick Cooper have siblings or parents, or have been born anywhere..... can list prob 100 Fredrick coopers in Yorkshire but wouldn't get anyone anywhere!! Jess :-)