Genealogy Chat

Just seen the next bit of your message added - the only other possibility would be the bottom one - aged 4, pendleton - if this is another one and not the same as you have given. Dea. x

Hi Jess, Sorry - I thought it was clear , but obviously not!. No - I don't have proof of her parents but the address of 67 Chapel Street on 1891 is good because it is just around the corner from John Street where I know she went to school. + the age is correct. I couldn't find any alternatives but you seen to have done. What can you suggest? Dea x.

Dea. - clear as porridge...!! lets start at the begining Greenhalgh, Mary Alexandra Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1887 District: Salford County: Greater Manchester Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 48 see if i can find 1891 - yes Greenhalgh, Hannah 31 Wrexham, Derbyshire Wife Pendleton Lancashire Greenhalgh, Margaret 8 Pendleton, Lancashire Daughter Pendleton Lancashire Greenhalgh, Mary A 4 Pendleton, Lancashire Daughter Pendleton Lancashire Greenhalgh, Thomas 36 Pendleton, Lancashire Head Pendleton Lancashire 1901- Hannah in he worhouse with Aunt- you have that already.

Jan, leave that one with me a bit.. they are not obvious ~Jess~

Hi Rambo, Yes - correct for Mary Alexandra Greenhalgh, However, her father Thomas, I have as 36 in 1891 - making his year of birth c 1855 ?? Dea.

Jess. Another challenge if you need one. Does the 1901 give an actual address. I'm looking for Sarah May born 1868 in Plymouth and was living in Kingskerswell Devon in 1901. Thanks.

Hi Jess, I am looking for Mary Alexandra Greenhalgh - I have her in born 1887. I have her in 1891 Census (I think) at 67 Chapel Street, Pendleton, Salford. Father Thomas Greenhalgh aged 36 - Railway Shunter (pointsman), born pendleton, salford. Hannah - wife - aged 31, Cotton weaver, born Wrexham, Denbigshire Daughter - Margaret aged 8 Daughter - Mary A aged 4 QAll except Hannah, born in Pendlton. In 1881 I have found at 7 Brunswick Place, Salford, the following: Hannah c 1860, born Wrexham, Callow Weaver, Thomas, c1855, born Pendleton, Railway Pointsman, Shunter. Ada c1880 - daughter. I have found 2 marriages - Thomas Greenhalgh to 'a Hannah' both in Bolton: 1). Hannah Walsh Bolton 8c 409 - Sep, 1880 2). Hannah Phillips, Bolton 8c 372 - Sep. 1882 I don't know if either of these are connected. I cannot find a birth of a Hannah Walsh (which I thought was the more likely marriage), in Wrexham, But, I did find a birth of a Hannah Phillips in Wrexham, Dec. Quarter, 1861 - 11b 264. This confuses me as I think the 1880 marriage is more likely. In 1901 I cannot find the family I have found a Hannah Greenhalgh in the Salford Union Workhouse, Regent Road, Salford - she is born Wrexham but is only 39 (when she should be 41?) -+ she is with her widdowed aunt Sophia Henderson (Domestic Servant), also from Wrexham. This has got so confusing, I can't remember what the question was but basically can you help me find Mary Alexandra Greenhalgh + her family in 1901 PLEASE ??? Perhaps this will make more sense to you ?? Regards, Dea.

Hi Jess. If you are looking for something to relieve the boredom, would you please have a look on the 1891 Census for me. On the 1881 I have Celia E Lawrey born 1848 in Polruan Cornwall. She was living 1 Looe Street Plymouth as a Grocer. She had a 10 year old daughter Elizabeth May Lawrey b 1871 in Parr Cornwall. I saw a marriage record for a Celia E Lawrey in 1883 in Plymouth for the same name and the grooms were either Charles Ogilvie or James Pitts Stewart. It would have been a second marriage for her. Her surname changes in the spelling from Lawry to Lawrey. Can you find any of them on the 1891 for me. Thanks.

thanks rambo!

bored, give me something to do!

hello again jess ... update on james wrigley .... he was born in 1867 so if still alive in 1901 he would be 34.. daughter florence was 6 in 1901 so 1895 her birth year , the last address for mary wrigley ( james wife ) was 11 back high st middleton , but no mention of james , its a pity they where married in 1892 missing the 1891 census !! i just dont know where to go from here ,. as you found there are quite l lot of james wrigleys in and around middleton etc. on my dads birth cert no father mentioned dad was born sept 1901, so he missed the census , on mum and dads wedding cert it names james wrigley as father (deceased ), is this enough to find out a little more , or what do i need now ? sorry to pick your brains so much but this is my first try and i have done quite well with a little help ,. sylvia

A big thank you Jess for the Madden family information, you are a true star and you have saved me hours going through the Census films at my Local family history library. king regards, Chris

Dear Jess, Thanks a lot on the onfo on Benjamin Sindall. Vanessa

Simon - still looking dont go away yet!! ~Jess~

Hi Jess, Thanks for trying, it is a bit of a puzzle!

simon - from the 1871 census, the wrong one(!) lets see if we can find the right one! Adam Fuller 40 Holt, Norfolk, England Head Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Charles Fuller 6 months Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Ellen E Fuller 9 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Great Grimsby Lincolnshire John H Fuller 11 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Samuel A Fuller 4 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Sarah Fuller 7 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Susan Fuller 34 Friskney, Lincolnshire, England Wife Great Grimsby Lincolnshire William Fuller 2 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lincolnshire 1881 there is this one Arthur Fuller abt 1865 Norwich, Norfolk, England Assistant Spalding see if i take him back 10 and see if he is with parents:- blast- he is the son of John and Mary! Annie M Fuller 8 Norwich, Norfolk, England Daughter Norwich Norfolk Arthur J Fuller 6 Norwich, Norfolk, England Son Norwich Norfolk Edward E Fuller 14 Norwich, Norfolk, England Son Norwich Norfolk Herbert I Fuller 12 Norwich, Norfolk, England Son Norwich Norfolk Jessie M Fuller 10 Norwich, Norfolk, England Daughter Norwich Norfolk John S Fuller 36 Frettenham, Norfolk, England Head Norwich Norfolk Mary J Fuller 36 Sprowston, Norfolk, England Wife Norwich Norfolk

Thanks to you (and all your little helpers) for the Macey information. Not sure if it ties in yet, I need to cross-reference with 1881, where the only suitable Charles Macey I've spotted is a convict and a possible Elizabeth in the workhouse!

Hi Jess, I wondered if you can help. I am looking for Charles FULLER son of ARTHUR FULLER (WOOD SAWYER) dob 1871ish I assume around Grimsby lincs. Tried 1870 DEC caistor 71 571 ent 337 but this Charles FULLER relates to a son of Adam FULLER (WOOD SAWYER). Any help would be appreciated

vanessa sorry, overlooked you 1891 Name: Sindall, Benjamin Age in 1891: 70 Relation: Inmate Union Workhouse Gender: Male Where Born: Silk Willoughby, Lincolnshire (think you had that one...) nearest i can find for 1881 Benjamin Sindall abt 1826 Westby, Lincoln, England Head Spittlegate Benjamin Sindall abt 1862 Grantham, Lincoln, England Son Spittlegate Hannah Sindall abt 1851 Worsop, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Spittlegate Mary Elizabeth Sindall abt 1860 Grantham, Lincoln, England Daughter Spittlegate THE BEST FOR 1871 is as family above, which may or may not be the right man Anne H Sindall 2 Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Spittlegate Lincolnshire Benjamin Sindall 43 Westby, Lincolnshire, England Head Spittlegate Lincolnshire Benney Sindall 9 Spittlegate, Lincolnshire, England Son Spittlegate Lincolnshire Eleanor D Sindall 28 Exton, Rutland, England Wife Spittlegate Lincolnshire ~Jess~

christopher: 1891 Madden, Sarah 40 Irl;tip Wife Leeds Yorkshire Madden, Teresa 12 Leeds, Yorkshire Daughter Leeds Yorkshire Madden, Thomas 22 Leeds, Yorkshire Son Leeds Yorkshire Madden, Agnes 7 Leeds, Yorkshire Daughter Leeds Yorkshire Madden, Clarence 9 Leeds, Yorkshire Son Leeds Yorkshire Madden, James 54 Irl;tip Head Leeds Yorkshire Madden, Janes 14 Leeds, Yorkshire Son Leeds Yorkshire Madden, Johanna 17 Leeds, Yorkshire Daughter Leeds Yorkshire Madden, Joseph 16 Leeds, Yorkshire Son Leeds Yorkshire Madden, Lily G 5 Leeds, Yorkshire Daughter Leeds Yorkshire Madden, Mary E 19 Leeds, Yorkshire Daughter Leeds Yorkshire address:4 Bickendyke St 1881 **James Madden abt 1837 Tipperary, Ireland Head Leeds James P. Madden abt 1877 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Leeds Johanna Madden abt 1874 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leeds Joseph Madden abt 1875 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Leeds **Mary E. Madden abt 1872 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leeds Sarah Madden abt 1849 Tipperary, Ireland Wife Leeds Terraca Madden abt 1879 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leeds Thomas Madden abt 1869 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Leeds Address: 4 Bickerdike St Civil parish: Leeds Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Tailor 1871 **James Madden 34 Tipperary, Ireland Head Leeds Yorkshire Mary Madden 55 Tipperary, Ireland Mother Leeds Yorkshire Sarah Madden 28 Tipperary, Ireland Wife Leeds Yorkshire Thomas Madden 2 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son Leeds Yorkshire address 3 Elm St James occ= tailor