Genealogy Chat

1901- Frederick Middleton 34 Preston, Suffolk, England Son Hackney London Harvey Middleton 48 Mile End, London, England Head Hackney London Kleigtia Middleton 56 Preston, Suffolk, England Wife Hackney London Richard Middleton 30 Preston, Suffolk, England Son Hackney London Ellen Poole 15 Not Stated Servant Hackney London 1891 Middleton, Eliza abt 1844 Preston, Suffolk Wife Hackney London Middleton, Floria J abt 1872 Aldershot Daughter Hackney London Middleton, Frederick abt 1878 Leyton, London Son Hackney London Middleton, Frederick abt 1881 Leyton, London Daughter Hackney London Middleton, Harvey abt 1848 Stepney, London Head Hackney London 1881 Name: Harvey Middleton Age in 1881: 35 Age months: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship to head-of-household: Boarder

Jess Hopefully , and I say hopefully you can sit back for a while and see if I can piece all this info together as I now have the missing generation and even better gone beyond that genneration. Thanks ever sooo much , i'm sure i'll be back shortly ! ;-)) Debs

Ok 1861- Elizabeth Pilsbury 1854 Stone, Staffordshire, England Daughter Shelton Staffordshire George Pilsbury 1826 Trentham, Staffordshire, England Head Shelton Staffordshire Sarah Pilsbury 1829 Enson Moor, Staffordshire, England Wife Shelton Staffordshire William Pilsbury 1851 Hanford, Staffordshire, England Son Shelton Staffordshire address:House hold 167 Lower Russell St George was a porter in 1871 Geo Pilsbury 1822 Trentham, Staffordshire, England Head Shelton Staffordshire Sarah Pilsbury 1828 Emton Moor, Staffordshire, England Wife Shelton Staffordshire Address No5 (cant work it out ) hope they dont move between census! George was a porter 1881- george appears to have died and sarah has an occuptaion - Home duties! Elizabeth Pilsbury abt 1852 Stone, Staffordshire, England Daughter Back 32 Well St, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Gertrude Pilsbury abt 1877 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Granddaughter Back 32 Well St, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Sarah Pilsbury abt 1829 Enson More, Staffordshire, England Head Back 32 Well St, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England 1891 sarh battles on ! Pilsbury, Elizabeth abt 1855 Stone, Staffordshire Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Pilsbury, Sarah abt 1829 Enpon Moor, Staffordshire Head Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Forrister, Samuel Jones abt 1883 Hanley, Staffordshire Lodger Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire address ?7 warrington St occ laundress 1901- nope I guess her death Name: Pilsbury, Sarah Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 62 Quarter: June Year: 1892 District: Wolverhampton County: Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Volume: 6b Page: 304 (click to see others on page) see if i can find his death Not an obvious candidate also 1901 daughter continues to house the boarder (Oh yes?!!) Samuel J Forrester 18 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Boarder Stoke Staffordshire Elizabeth Pilsbury 47 Stone, Staffordshire, England Head Stoke Staffordshire she is a dressmaker and he is an iron worker ------------------------------------------------------------------- what can i do for the encore!

HI again Jess Firstly is Ephraim a person or place ?? ;-( ;-)) then I am after these pair now ;-)) Pilsbury, George County : Stafford Relationship : Head Place Of Birth : Staffordshire, England, Trentham Gender : M Age : 26 Marital Status : Married Occupation : Tailor Journeyman Enumeration District : Hanford Address at Time of Census : Hanford Family Number : 908 Pilsbury, Sarah County : Stafford Relationship : Wife Place Of Birth : Staffordshire, England, Endon? Gender : F Age : 22 Marital Status : Married Enumeration District : Hanford Address at Time of Census : Hanford Family Number : 908 thanks Debs By hook or by crook I will get there with a little help from friends ;-)) Cheers Deb

Thanks a lot Jess :-) Steven

Steven; best i can find- diff spelling again, wrong B year but right place and has brother John Elizabeth A Beckerleg 1843 Breage, Cornwall, England Daughter Breage Cornwall Jenifer Beckerleg 1849 Breage, Cornwall, England Daughter Breage Cornwall John Beckerleg 1860 Breage, Cornwall, England Son Breage Cornwall Margaret Beckerleg 1818 Crowan, Cornwall, England Wife Breage Cornwall Margaret J Beckerleg 1847 Breage, Cornwall, England Daughter Breage Cornwall Mary Beckerleg 1845 Breage, Cornwall, England Daughter Breage Cornwall William Beckerleg 1815 Germoe, Cornwall, England Head Breage Cornwall address:household 80 Trewisthick Source information: RG9/1574 Registration district: Helston Sub-registration district: Breage ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 100 Page: 19 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 80 GSU Number: 542833

Bruce; best match for emma - wasn'rt one born Erith ? Edward Dawson 1806 Ewhurst, Sussex, England Head Egerton Kent Edward Dawson 1831 Cranbrook, Kent, England Son Egerton Kent Elizabeth Dawson 1857 Egerton, Kent, England Daughter Egerton Kent Emma Dawson 1846 Egerton, Kent, England Daughter Egerton Kent George Dawson 1860 Egerton, Kent, England Son Egerton Kent Harriet Dawson 1826 Marden, Kent, England Wife Egerton Kent Henry Dawson 1847 Egerton, Kent, England Grandson Egerton Kent Stephen Dawson 1838 Egerton, Kent, England Son Egerton Kent William Dawson 1841 Egerton, Kent, England Son Egerton Kent address : Warden(?)/Harden farm

Bruce here is Penelope: Eliza Fisher 1850 Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Mary Nottinghamshire Penelope Fisher 1807 London, England Head St Mary Nottinghamshire Fanny R Wilkinson 1861 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Mary Nottinghamshire Kesiah Wilkinson 1837 East Bridgford, Nottinghamshire, England Visitor St Mary Nottinghamshire house hold 39 Gedling St , occ: dressmaker

Jess Please could you look up Marageret Jane BECKERLEY or BECKERLEGG on the 1861 census? She was born about 1851 in Breage, Cornwall and had a younger brother, John. Many thanks, Steven

from 1881 census- Ralph Pilsbury Eliza Pilsbury abt 1840 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Wife Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Harriet Pilsbury abt 1867 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Ralph Pilsbury abt 1841 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Head Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Ralph Pilsbury abt 1869 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Son Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Thomas Pilsbury abt 1865 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Son Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England 1891-same name Pilsbury, Andrew abt 1874 Priestfield, Staffordshire Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, Eliza abt 1840 Priestfield, Staffordshire Wife Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, George abt 1879 Priestfield, Staffordshire Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, Ralph abt 1841 Priestfield, Staffordshire Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, Ralph abt 1869 Priestfield, Staffordshire Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire 1901- seems to have gone.Will see if i can find death and widow his death: Name: Pilsbury, Ralph Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 56 Quarter: March Year: 1898 District: Wolverhampton County: Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Volume: 6b Page: 379 Widow in 1901: Andrew Pilsbury 27 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Eliza Pilsbury 61 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Eliza Pilsbury 29 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Wolverhampton Staffordshire George Pilsbury 22 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Ralph Pilsbury 32 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire I can't find his birth any where. slightly confused by a birth entry for Pilsbury at the right time for an Ephraim with is marked with * in the register transcription.Cant find Ephraim in 1861 either. see below Name: PILSBURY, Ephraim * Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1842 District: Wolverhampton County: Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Volume: 17 Page: 374 (click to see others on page)

Hi Jess Can you please see if you can find any more info. on this guy please in any of the census /bmd Birth Year <1841> Birthplace Whampton, Stafford, England Age 40 Occupation Labourer (Genl) Marital Status M <Married> Head of Household Ralph PILSBURY Relation Head Disability Dwelling Ettinghall Lane Census Place Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341672 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2807 / 93 Page Number 31 Cheers Deb

please leave requests for later Jess

DEB;Thought these might come in useful' births: Pilsbury, Ralph 1905 June Births Wolverhampton Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Pilsbury, Ralph 1906 June Births Wolverhampton Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands PILSBURY, Richard Ralph 1859 June Births Wolverhampton Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Deaths: PILSBURY, Ralph 1841 September Deaths Wolverhampton Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Pilsbury, Ralph 1870 September Deaths Wolverhampton Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Pilsbury, Ralph 1898 March Deaths Wolverhampton Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands

Deb looking for Ralph- found what i guess is his dad! 1861 Moses Hanny 1850 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Servant Bilston Staffordshire Harriet Pilsbury 1815 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Wife Bilston Staffordshire Ralph Pilsbury 1811 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Head Bilston Staffordshire in 1871- with a load of grandkids: Emma Pilsbury 1865 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Granddaughter Bilston Staffordshire Hannah Pilsbury 1867 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Granddaughter Bilston Staffordshire Harriet Pilsbury 1815 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Head Bilston Staffordshire Mary Pilsbury 1869 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Granddaughter Bilston Staffordshire **Thomas Pilsbury 1862 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Grandson Bilston Staffordshire ---------------------------------------------------------------- also 1861 ralph jnr Eliza Pilsbury 1840 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Wife Bilston Staffordshire Ralph Pilsbury 1841 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Head Bilston Staffordshire 1871 ??- leave that for a bit 1881- Ralph Jnr with his own son Ralph! Eliza Pilsbury abt 1840 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Wife Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Harriet Pilsbury abt 1867 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Ralph Pilsbury abt 1841 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Head Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Ralph Pilsbury abt 1869 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Son Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Thomas Pilsbury abt 1865 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Son Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England 1891 Pilsbury, Andrew abt 1874 Priestfield, Staffordshire Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, Eliza abt 1840 Priestfield, Staffordshire Wife Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, George abt 1879 Priestfield, Staffordshire Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, Ralph abt 1841 Priestfield, Staffordshire Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, Ralph abt 1869 Priestfield, Staffordshire Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire 1901 Ralph (2nd) seem to have died now Andrew Pilsbury 27 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Eliza Pilsbury 61 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Eliza Pilsbury 29 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Wolverhampton Staffordshire George Pilsbury 22 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Ralph Pilsbury 32 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire

Just off to work Deb. will look this evening jess

Hi Jess trying to track RALPH PILSBURY born 1840 in WOLVERHAMPTON , STAFFORDSHIRE , ALL AVAILABLE CENSUS'S AND ALSO THOMAS PILSBURY born 1862 , STAFFORDSHIRE , AGAIN ALL AVAILABLE INFORMATION APPRECIATED Cheers Deb

anyone want...? jess

Thank you so much for the doing that,I am sure it is the family I am looking for James must have moved to Ipswich after 1891 as that is where he was living when he married my graet-grandmother.Regards Maureen

maureen there is this one, but they are still in london. do you recognise brothers and sisters? Hutchison, Andrew William abt 1889 Stepney, London Son Mile End Old Town London Hutchison, James Henry abt 1877 Limehouse, London Son Mile End Old Town London Hutchison, John A W abt 1875 Limehouse, London Son Mile End Old Town London Hutchison, Peter abt 1846 Wapping, London Head Mile End Old Town London Hutchison, Peter Joseph abt 1872 Stepney, London Son Mile End Old Town London Hutchison, Sarah abt 1848 Wandsworth, Surrey Wife Mile End Old Town London Hutchison, Sussanah Alice abt 1884 Limehouse, London Daughter Mile End Old Town London Hutchison, Sylvester Frank abt 1880 Limehouse, London Son Mile End Old Town London Source information: RG12/304 Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Folio: 55 Page: ------------------------------------------------------ the same family in 1881 James Hutchinson abt 1877 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Son 33 Conder St, Linchouse, London, England John Hutchinson abt 1875 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Son 33 Conder St, Linchouse, London, England Peter Hutchinson abt 1846 Wapping, Middlesex, England Head 33 Conder St, Linchouse, London, England Peter John Hutchinson abt 1872 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son 33 Conder St, Linchouse, London, England Sarah Hutchinson abt 1848 Wapping, Middlesex, England Wife 33 Conder St, Linchouse, London, England Silvester Hutchinson abt 1880 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Son 33 Conder St, Linchouse, London, England Source information: RG11/0466 Sub-registration district: Limehouse ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 49 Page: 29

Jess thanks for your reply,I think James Henry Hutchison would have been living in Ipswich Suffolk in 1891. Thanks Maureen.