Genealogy Chat

Jan, with just the criteria Lawrey born 1810+/- 10 years, these are all the females that show Amelia Lawrey 1800 Gulval, Cornwall, England Head Gulval Cornwall Annie Lawrey 1809 Padstow, Cornwall, England Wife St Austell Cornwall Elizabeth Lawrey 1815 Phillack, Cornwall, England Wife Phillack Cornwall Elizabeth Lawrey 1808 Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England Wife St Dominic Cornwall Elizh Lawrey 1815 Towednack, Cornwall, England Wife Gulval Cornwall Mary Lawrey 1804 Gulval, Cornwall, England Wife Gulval Cornwall Mary Lawrey 1805 Penzance, Cornwall, England Mother Gulval Cornwall Mary Lawrey 1810 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Wife Mawgan Cornwall ..................................................... taking out the 'E' Jane Lawry 1810 Lanlivery, Cornwall, England Head Tywardreath Cornwall ........................................................................................ applying 'Soundtext' Mary Lory 1810 Ruan Minor, Cornwall, England Wife Cookbury Devon >husband Willam 1811 _________________________________________________- Dont know what else to suggest! Jess

hi Jess. I still can't tie it up. Can you see if there is a Mary Kittow Lawrey or Lawry born 1823. That is the year of birth she stated on the 1881. The other children were Mary Ann b 1844. Elizabeth b 1846. Joseph b 1848. Edward b 1849. GRace b 1851. Joseph William b 1854. Stephen Goldsworthy b 1857. John b 1859, Thomas b 1864. Obviously most of the children would have left home by then. Thanks so much

chris Maybe - ages slightly out (Nicolson in Leeds-no H- non starter...) Alice Nicholson 2 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter Leeds Yorkshire John Nicholson 28 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Head Leeds Yorkshire Mary A Nicholson 28 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Wife Leeds Yorkshire Address - cant work it out -post the ref and someone might information: RG13/4216 Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: South East Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 80 Page: 14 ------------------------------------------------------- wanted this birth ref not to have an H but it has.. Name: Nicholson, Alice Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1899 District: Leeds (1837-1929) County: West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 9b Page: 397 (click to see others on page) .......................................................................... strange co-incedence? Name: Nicholson, Richard Vincent Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1907 District: Leeds (1837-1929) County: West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 9b Page: 360

Hello Jess, Could you please investigate John Nicolson and Mary Ann Burns. Mary Ann Burns was born in Leeds 1871. I have no idea when John Nicolson was born. They were married in Leeds in 1896. The area I am interested in concerns the 1901 period. John and Mary had 4 children. John, Vincent and Richard and one other female. What I would like to find is the female's name as I am led to believe she was the oldest, but cannot confirm this. Any help would be useful as I have no detail on the John Nicolson pre married nor any detail after marrying Mary Ann Burns. I have knowleged of Mary Ann Burns and her family. Any help would be greatly appreciated. kind regards, Christopher Burns

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Chris- any of these worth considering? 1)John Smith abt 1855 Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Boarder 'Boarding House' 3 Silver St, Bristol St James In, Gloucestershire, England 2)John Smith abt 1858 Town Sarn, Carmarthenshire, Wales Unknown 'Horfield Barracks' Horfield, Horfield, Gloucestershire, England 3)John Smith abt 1858 Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Son 'Fort Elson', Alverstoke, Hampshire, England 4)John Smith abt 1857 Marlden, Cardiganshire, Wales Boarder Haydock Green, Haydock, Lancashire, England 5)John Smith abt 1856 Wrexham, Wales Boarder 23 Johnson Street, Tyldesley Cum Shakerley, Lancashire, England 6)John Smith abt 1859 Bahaillon, Merionethshire, Wales Servant Barretts, Clun, Shropshire, England 7)John Smith abt 1859 Cardiff, Wales Boarder 23 Upper Foster St, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England Wales Geog not good!

Hi Jess, Sorry thats all the info i have but got his marriage lines and know when he died thank you June

June, really you need a better idea of where he was born. His marriage cert will tell you both his fathers name and his wife maiden name and that of her father, also where they were married sorry jess

Jan, these are the obvious one, let me hunt out husbands et al 1) Mary Lawrey 1810 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Wife Mawgan Cornwall 2) Mary A Lawry 1814 St Ewe, Cornwall, England Wife St Ewe Cornwall 3) Mary R Lawry 1812 Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England Wife Duloe Cornwall 1) Annie Lawrey 1849 Mawgan, Cornwall, England Daughter Mawgan Cornwall Edward Lawrey 1844 Mawgan, Cornwall, England Son Mawgan Cornwall James Lawrey 1852 Mawgan, Cornwall, England Son Mawgan Cornwall Mary Lawrey 1810 St Columb Major, Cornwall, England Wife Mawgan Cornwall William Lawrey 1802 Mawgan, Cornwall, England Head Mawgan Cornwall 2) John Lawry 1815 St Mewan, Cornwall, England Head St Ewe Cornwall Mary A Lawry 1814 St Ewe, Cornwall, England Wife St Ewe Cornwall 3) Samuel Hawken 1853 Plymouth, Devon, England Servant Duloe Cornwall Alice J Lawry 1848 St Just, Cornwall, England Daughter Duloe Cornwall Caroline S Lawry 1846 St Just, Cornwall, England Daughter Duloe Cornwall Joseph Lawry 1807 Lamorran, Cornwall, England Head Duloe Cornwall Mary R Lawry 1812 Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England Wife Duloe Cornwall William Lawry 1845 St Just, Cornwall, England Son Duloe Cornwall Eliza Luscombe 1847 Averton Gifford, Devon, England Visitor Duloe Cornwall Elizabeth Pomery 1846 Liskeard, Cornwall, England Servant Duloe Cornwall William Richards 1856 Duloe, Cornwall, England Servant Duloe Cornwall If No 3 is the right family then he tells whoppers too, doesn't he?Just Looked at the image and No 3 is Mary K not R

Jess. There are children on the 1881 but not on family search. John Lawry or Lawrey born 1858. Thomas Lawry or Lawrey born 1863. It looks as if Mary was lying on the 1881 because I have just found her death on free bmd and Mary Kittow Lawry was 81 when she died in 1894, so she was born 1812/13. She stated she was 58 when she was actually 69!! So on the 1871, she would have been 59 but would have declared herself 48. Little liar.......

Jan, I can't find him in 1871 -would they have had any children by then- it might help jess

Karen Sorry, no I cant spot the marriage. £1 to a penny in transcription he will be listed as HerberT Garner , of which there are so many The best i can suggest is that you send for one of the childrens birt cert to obtain her maiden name Jess

Hi Jess, Would you please help me as cant find father in law his name is James Lewis born nov 1905 middle name Alfred we have been told he was born in Middlesbrough but dont think so he was married in Liverpool. His father is Arthur Robert Lewis thank you June

Hi Jess I'm tearing my hair out over a wife!! Can you check the 1871 Census for me for a Joseph Lawrey born 1818 in Cornwall. He should be 53 yrs old and born either St.Columbe or St.Just in Roseland. On the 1881 he was living in Twyardreath Cornwall. If you find him, can you confirm the deatails of his wife, Mary. I am trying to confirm her year of birth and place of birth. Thanks a lot. Jan

Jess Yep I think he married only once. 1871 census entry is not easy to read and therefore I think they may have mistranscribed wifes name (especially as Heber is down as HH Garner). Only Heber and wife are listed. First child is born in Q3 1871 therefore missed being recorded on 1871 census. Think it is is unlikely that the wife indicated on 1871 census would have died and he would have remarried and had a child between census date in 1871 and birth of first child unless it was illegitmate. In 1871 Heber would have been 25/26 which makes me believe that this would have been the first marriage. Only thing I can think of is that it is mistransribed somewhere. Karen

Jess Yep he was definitely born and passed on the name to one of his sons (born Q2 1880) who them passed it on to one of his sons (born Q2 1903). Problem is I can't appear to find the first Heber's marriage. Thanks for the birth ref provided it ties in wth the census info so I know I can potentially rely on it. Karen

Karen , sound a silly thing to say, but he was born- i did wonder with a name like Heber Name: Garner, Heber Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1845 District: Wirral (1837-1974) County: Cheshire Volume: 19 Page: 321 (click to see others on page) ................................................................................ and you think he only married once?

Jess Please could you see if you can find the following marriage. The grooms name is known but the wife's maiden name is unknown. I am hoping that given that the groom's name is unusual you might be able to find it. Have tried ancestry but have not been able to locate it so far. Per 1871 census (Liverpool): Husband: HH Garner born c1846, Cheshire Wife: Hellen/Ellen ? born c1848, London Middlesex Per 1881 census and subsequent census (Liverpool) Husband: Heber Garner born c1846, Cheshire Wife: MARY born c1848 London First child: Mary born Q3 1871, Liverpool Therefore I think the marriage would have taken place 1867-1870. Husband name : definitely Heber Garner Wife name: Hellen/Ellen/Mary surname unknown Thanking you for your help Karen

Hi Jess. Thanks for this. Blimey, this family appears to be huge!!!! With so many Georges, Johns and Jamess, I'm starting to get in a muddle. Thank you for all your help.

Heather that George may not be your John brother in 1871 his father is called George, so probably, given the size of Docking they are cousins Fanny Roper 1864 Docking, Norfolk, England Daughter Docking Norfolk George Roper 1843 Docking, Norfolk, England Head Docking Norfolk George Roper 1860 Docking, Norfolk, England Son Docking Norfolk James Roper 1866 Docking, Norfolk, England Son Docking Norfolk Sarah Roper 1862 Docking, Norfolk, England Daughter Docking Norfolk Thomas W Roper 1869 Docking, Norfolk, England Son Docking Norfolk