Genealogy Chat

here is a Thomas with a Ralph (thought you had this one) George Pilsbury 1849 Trentham, Staffordshire, England Son Penkhull Staffordshire Ralph Pilsbury 1841 Newcastle, Staffordshire, England Son Penkhull Staffordshire Thomas Pilsbury 1809 Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England Head Penkhull Staffordshire Thomas Pilsbury 1844 Newcastle, Staffordshire, England Son Penkhull Staffordshire NO MARY THOMAS IS A WIDOWERso she must have died pre 1861 I would assume this to be Ralphs father ------------------------------------------------- Juggle with these; PILSBURY, Eliza 1850 March Deaths Stafford Staffordshire Pilsbury, George 1859 March Deaths Stafford Staffordshire Pilsbury, Jane 1858 March Deaths Stafford Staffordshire PILSBURY, Kezia 1850 March Deaths Stafford Staffordshire PILSBURY, Lewis 1850 March Deaths Stafford Staffordshire Pilsbury, Temperance 1859 March Deaths Stafford Staffordshire Pilsbury, William 1857 June Deaths Stafford Staffordshire Pilsbury, Wilmot 1855 June Deaths Stafford Staffordshire

Jess Thats the marriage date but he could have married someone called ANNE tho , corr blimey there are so many of them !! Or any leads you may think relevant to the parents of RALPF would be a help Debs

OOPS ANNE MANDLEY or something like that Debs

Bruce - do I see another branch emerging here?(maybe you know about Palfree's) Charlotte Fisher 1859 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Granddaughter St Mary Nottinghamshire James Fisher 1837 London, England Son-in-law St Mary Nottinghamshire Jane Fisher 1837 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Mary Nottinghamshire Christopher Palfree 1849 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Son St Mary Nottinghamshire Emma Palfree 1844 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Mary Nottinghamshire Joseph Palfree 1805 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Head St Mary Nottinghamshire Mary Palfree 1812 Grantham, Lincolnshire, England Wife St Mary Nottinghamshire Thomas Palfree 1842 Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Son St Mary Nottinghamshire Source information: RG9/2462 Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Byron ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 22 Page: 38 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 202 GSU Number: 542974

Jess This May be him Thomas Pilsbury 1809 Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England Head Penkhull Staffordshire Debs

Deb - that is the one i have posted....or am i missing something? him and his sons in 1861.. Jess

Jess No it's me , sorry , just sat here banging me head on the desk These people are a real pain to trace , if only these boats they used were anchored in one place ! Debs

debs- yours all seem pretty well anchored in Staffs and are lucky they dont shift about!!

Jenny-thought you'd had every Jeffcoat that ever drew breath!! Jeffcoat, Alice abt 1884 Northampton Daughter St Andrew Northamptonshire Jeffcoat, Annie abt 1872 Northampton Daughter St Andrew Northamptonshire Jeffcoat, Arthur abt 1881 Northampton Son St Andrew Northamptonshire Jeffcoat, Ellen abt 1879 Northampton Daughter St Andrew Northamptonshire Jeffcoat, Frank abt 1889 Northampton Son St Andrew Northamptonshire Jeffcoat, Sarah abt 1853 Northampton Wife St Andrew Northamptonshire Jeffcoat, Walter abt 1876 Northampton Son St Andrew Northamptonshire Jeffcoat, William abt 1845 Northampton Head St Andrew Northamptonshire Jeffcoat, William abt 1874 Northampton Son St Andrew Northamptonshire address: 56 Alcombe Rd (just off the Kettering rd) Nr abington Sq

Chrissie Ethel: Alfred Gee 23 Streatley, Derbyshire, England Lodger West Retford Nottinghamshire Chas Golland 37 Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Head West Retford Nottinghamshire Eliza J Golland 30 Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Wife West Retford Nottinghamshire Ethel Golland 8 Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter West Retford Nottinghamshire Albert W P Swaine 27 Warborough, Norfolk, England Lodger West Retford Nottinghamshire Source information: RG13/3121 Registration district: East Retford Sub-registration district: East Retford ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 86 Page: 17 Household schedule number: 142 ------------------------------------------------------- Samuel Emma Golland 3 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Flora Golland 1 Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Gainsborough Lincolnshire Kate Golland 29 East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Gainsborough Lincolnshire Samuel Golland 40 West Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Head Gainsborough Lincolnshire Source information: RG13/3113 Registration district: Gainsborough Sub-registration district: Gainsborough ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 140 Page: 21 Household schedule number: 10 ----------------------------------------------------------- cant see other Ethel - hang on... just this pair with that name Elizabeth J Darnie 21 Sturton, Lincolnshire, England Wife North Retford Nottinghamshire James Darnie 26 Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Head North Retford Nottinghamshire

Jess Sorry to be a pain I am gettin real lost but I dont think we have this one do we Thomas Pilsbury 1807 Horton, Staffordshire, England Head maybe the grandfather of Thomas Pilsbury 1862 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Grandson Debs

Bruce- she isn't obvious- know anymore about George?

When? Deb - stop panicing sort yourself out woman!!

Thank you for trying. Ann

deb Charlotte Pilsbury 1850 Macclesfield, Cheshire, England Daughter Prestbury Cheshire Sarah Pilsbury 1826 Salford, Lancashire, England Wife Prestbury Cheshire Thomas Pilsbury 1807 Horton, Staffordshire, England Head Prestbury ---------------------------------------------------------- this chap i would assume to be his brother Elizabeth Pilsbury 1808 Rushton, Staffordshire, England Wife Rushton Spencer Staffordshire James Pilsbury 1804 Horton, Staffordshire, England Head Rushton Spencer Staffordshire

JESS Calmer now ;-) Can you find HARRIET PILSBURY born 1815 in 1861 census and/or earlier married to RALPH born 1811 trying to find their children (as we have the g/kids) can see her in the1861 opening bit but obviously cant see the details Debs

Deb- 1861- Moses Hanny 1850 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Servant Bilston Staffordshire Harriet Pilsbury 1815 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Wife Bilston Staffordshire Ralph Pilsbury 1811 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Head Bilston Staffordshire Source information: RG9/2008 Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Bilston ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Folio: 84 Page: 34 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 151 GSU Number: 542902

Jess Is there anything earlier fot Harriet , trying to establish who children are Debs

Another pair of eyes might crack this couple ? I cant find 'em on any census ! Altho unlikely to be around after 1881 ..... George Hodson & Sarah Hodson married approx 1830 in Manchester both born approx 1800-1810.

Did they re-produce Laird? narrow down birth place as bit..Big wide world!! Any idea where they Might have Hovvered?