Genealogy Chat

Hi Jess Can you please see if you can find any more info. on this guy please in any of the census /bmd Birth Year <1841> Birthplace Whampton, Stafford, England Age 40 Occupation Labourer (Genl) Marital Status M <Married> Head of Household Ralph PILSBURY Relation Head Disability Dwelling Ettinghall Lane Census Place Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Family History Library Film 1341672 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2807 / 93 Page Number 31 Cheers Deb

from 1881 census- Ralph Pilsbury Eliza Pilsbury abt 1840 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Wife Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Harriet Pilsbury abt 1867 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Ralph Pilsbury abt 1841 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Head Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Ralph Pilsbury abt 1869 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Son Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Thomas Pilsbury abt 1865 Whampton, Staffordshire, England Son Ettinghall Lane, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England 1891-same name Pilsbury, Andrew abt 1874 Priestfield, Staffordshire Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, Eliza abt 1840 Priestfield, Staffordshire Wife Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, George abt 1879 Priestfield, Staffordshire Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, Ralph abt 1841 Priestfield, Staffordshire Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Pilsbury, Ralph abt 1869 Priestfield, Staffordshire Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire 1901- seems to have gone.Will see if i can find death and widow his death: Name: Pilsbury, Ralph Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 56 Quarter: March Year: 1898 District: Wolverhampton County: Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Volume: 6b Page: 379 Widow in 1901: Andrew Pilsbury 27 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Eliza Pilsbury 61 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Eliza Pilsbury 29 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Wolverhampton Staffordshire George Pilsbury 22 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Ralph Pilsbury 32 Ettingsall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire I can't find his birth any where. slightly confused by a birth entry for Pilsbury at the right time for an Ephraim with is marked with * in the register transcription.Cant find Ephraim in 1861 either. see below Name: PILSBURY, Ephraim * Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1842 District: Wolverhampton County: Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Volume: 17 Page: 374 (click to see others on page)

Jess Please could you look up Marageret Jane BECKERLEY or BECKERLEGG on the 1861 census? She was born about 1851 in Breage, Cornwall and had a younger brother, John. Many thanks, Steven

Bruce here is Penelope: Eliza Fisher 1850 Sneinton, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Mary Nottinghamshire Penelope Fisher 1807 London, England Head St Mary Nottinghamshire Fanny R Wilkinson 1861 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Mary Nottinghamshire Kesiah Wilkinson 1837 East Bridgford, Nottinghamshire, England Visitor St Mary Nottinghamshire house hold 39 Gedling St , occ: dressmaker

Bruce; best match for emma - wasn'rt one born Erith ? Edward Dawson 1806 Ewhurst, Sussex, England Head Egerton Kent Edward Dawson 1831 Cranbrook, Kent, England Son Egerton Kent Elizabeth Dawson 1857 Egerton, Kent, England Daughter Egerton Kent Emma Dawson 1846 Egerton, Kent, England Daughter Egerton Kent George Dawson 1860 Egerton, Kent, England Son Egerton Kent Harriet Dawson 1826 Marden, Kent, England Wife Egerton Kent Henry Dawson 1847 Egerton, Kent, England Grandson Egerton Kent Stephen Dawson 1838 Egerton, Kent, England Son Egerton Kent William Dawson 1841 Egerton, Kent, England Son Egerton Kent address : Warden(?)/Harden farm

Steven; best i can find- diff spelling again, wrong B year but right place and has brother John Elizabeth A Beckerleg 1843 Breage, Cornwall, England Daughter Breage Cornwall Jenifer Beckerleg 1849 Breage, Cornwall, England Daughter Breage Cornwall John Beckerleg 1860 Breage, Cornwall, England Son Breage Cornwall Margaret Beckerleg 1818 Crowan, Cornwall, England Wife Breage Cornwall Margaret J Beckerleg 1847 Breage, Cornwall, England Daughter Breage Cornwall Mary Beckerleg 1845 Breage, Cornwall, England Daughter Breage Cornwall William Beckerleg 1815 Germoe, Cornwall, England Head Breage Cornwall address:household 80 Trewisthick Source information: RG9/1574 Registration district: Helston Sub-registration district: Breage ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 100 Page: 19 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 80 GSU Number: 542833

Thanks a lot Jess :-) Steven

HI again Jess Firstly is Ephraim a person or place ?? ;-( ;-)) then I am after these pair now ;-)) Pilsbury, George County : Stafford Relationship : Head Place Of Birth : Staffordshire, England, Trentham Gender : M Age : 26 Marital Status : Married Occupation : Tailor Journeyman Enumeration District : Hanford Address at Time of Census : Hanford Family Number : 908 Pilsbury, Sarah County : Stafford Relationship : Wife Place Of Birth : Staffordshire, England, Endon? Gender : F Age : 22 Marital Status : Married Enumeration District : Hanford Address at Time of Census : Hanford Family Number : 908 thanks Debs By hook or by crook I will get there with a little help from friends ;-)) Cheers Deb

Ok 1861- Elizabeth Pilsbury 1854 Stone, Staffordshire, England Daughter Shelton Staffordshire George Pilsbury 1826 Trentham, Staffordshire, England Head Shelton Staffordshire Sarah Pilsbury 1829 Enson Moor, Staffordshire, England Wife Shelton Staffordshire William Pilsbury 1851 Hanford, Staffordshire, England Son Shelton Staffordshire address:House hold 167 Lower Russell St George was a porter in 1871 Geo Pilsbury 1822 Trentham, Staffordshire, England Head Shelton Staffordshire Sarah Pilsbury 1828 Emton Moor, Staffordshire, England Wife Shelton Staffordshire Address No5 (cant work it out ) hope they dont move between census! George was a porter 1881- george appears to have died and sarah has an occuptaion - Home duties! Elizabeth Pilsbury abt 1852 Stone, Staffordshire, England Daughter Back 32 Well St, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Gertrude Pilsbury abt 1877 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Granddaughter Back 32 Well St, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Sarah Pilsbury abt 1829 Enson More, Staffordshire, England Head Back 32 Well St, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England 1891 sarh battles on ! Pilsbury, Elizabeth abt 1855 Stone, Staffordshire Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Pilsbury, Sarah abt 1829 Enpon Moor, Staffordshire Head Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Forrister, Samuel Jones abt 1883 Hanley, Staffordshire Lodger Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire address ?7 warrington St occ laundress 1901- nope I guess her death Name: Pilsbury, Sarah Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 62 Quarter: June Year: 1892 District: Wolverhampton County: Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands Volume: 6b Page: 304 (click to see others on page) see if i can find his death Not an obvious candidate also 1901 daughter continues to house the boarder (Oh yes?!!) Samuel J Forrester 18 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Boarder Stoke Staffordshire Elizabeth Pilsbury 47 Stone, Staffordshire, England Head Stoke Staffordshire she is a dressmaker and he is an iron worker ------------------------------------------------------------------- what can i do for the encore!

Jess Hopefully , and I say hopefully you can sit back for a while and see if I can piece all this info together as I now have the missing generation and even better gone beyond that genneration. Thanks ever sooo much , i'm sure i'll be back shortly ! ;-)) Debs

1901- Frederick Middleton 34 Preston, Suffolk, England Son Hackney London Harvey Middleton 48 Mile End, London, England Head Hackney London Kleigtia Middleton 56 Preston, Suffolk, England Wife Hackney London Richard Middleton 30 Preston, Suffolk, England Son Hackney London Ellen Poole 15 Not Stated Servant Hackney London 1891 Middleton, Eliza abt 1844 Preston, Suffolk Wife Hackney London Middleton, Floria J abt 1872 Aldershot Daughter Hackney London Middleton, Frederick abt 1878 Leyton, London Son Hackney London Middleton, Frederick abt 1881 Leyton, London Daughter Hackney London Middleton, Harvey abt 1848 Stepney, London Head Hackney London 1881 Name: Harvey Middleton Age in 1881: 35 Age months: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship to head-of-household: Boarder

anyone want? Jess

Hi Jess, can you help me find the birth of Gladys Curtis. She was born c. 1920 in Kent. Not sure if you'll be able to look this up if its too recent but any details would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Amy

Jess can you help please with a birth PATRICIA M KITCHING b. Isle of Wight after 1919. Thank you Ann

Ann & amy, nieither of them are accesible thru ancestry. jess

Hi Jess, Could you look for my RICHARDS family in 1861? They should be living in Stourport/Lower Mitton, Worcs. William Richards born 1802 West Bromwich Martha born 1803 West Bromwich Mary born 1845 Stourport Thanks for your help, Liz

hi, can you help me find a HAMIL BOTTLE. I have his name from a marriage cert of his son PETER BOTTLE whom was born 1822C and was married and lived in St Helens Lancashire. I know its a long shot but both names are unusual so if 1 appears i reckon it'll be him. thanks Vicky

Vicki, Would guess Hamil to be in Italy (unless you know otherwise) from 1861 census Angele Bottle 1854 St Helens, Lancashire, England Son Sutton Lancashire Ann Jane Bottle 1859 St Helens, Lancashire, England Daughter Sutton Lancashire Elizabeth Bottle 1853 St Helens, Lancashire, England Daughter Sutton Lancashire Ellen Bottle 1831 St Helens, Lancashire, England Wife Sutton Lancashire Peter Bottle 1829 Italy Head Sutton Lancashire Catherine Hulme 1828 St Helens, Lancashire, England Wife Sister Sutton Lancashire his wife was Ellen Nee Hulme - thats useful.... Source information: RG9/2754 Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 47 Page: 36 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 174 GSU Number: 543024 ------------------------------------------------ Do you have Hamil/Peter later in cesus?

Liz, Mary appears to have left home Mary Richards 1845 Stourport, Worcestershire, England Servant Stourport Worcestershire Mary Wheeldon 1812 Stourport, Worcestershire, England Wife Stourport Worcestershire Thomas Wheeldon 1806 Derbyshire, England Head Stourport Worcestershire living on the High St.Mr Wheeldon is a bookmaker and printer Source information: RG9/2081 Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Lower Mitton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 45 Page: 7 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 30 GSU Number: 542914 --------------------------------------------------------- looks about right; Henry Richards 1843 Stourport, Worcestershire, England Son Stourport Worcestershire James Richards 1841 Stourport, Worcestershire, England Son Stourport Worcestershire Martha Richards 1804 Westbromich, Staffordshire, England Wife Stourport Worcestershire Samuel Richards 1834 Stourport, Worcestershire, England Son Stourport Worcestershire William Richards 1802 Westbromich, Staffordshire, England Head Stourport Worcestershire household 78 Foundry St Williams occupation is Hinge caster iron foundry Samuel is a common labourer James is a foundry labourer Henry, a hollow ware caster Source information: RG9/2081 Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Lower Mitton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 31 Page: 15 Household schedule number: 78 GSU Number: 542914

Hi again Jess Told you I would be back ! Can you please look up ; THOMAS PILSBURY , he married a MARY MIDDLETON 7/4/1817 But trying to find a birth date etc (He may have been the father of Ralph BORN 1840 AND THE 1971 CENSUS FOR RALPH ALSO IF POSS. PLEASE SEE IF WE CAN FIND ANY MISSING LINKS Cheers Debs