Genealogy Chat

Hi Jess I have looked on the 1881 census and I think there was possibly a previous page on the 1891 census that you may not have seen(not sure what you get on Ancestry?). I think you are missing Ellen's grandparents. They are George Lord ,1826, born northampton. and Elizabeth, 1830, born Cambridge. The other household you found was their son of the same name. Could you look up George and Elizabeth on the 1871 and 1861 census they were in Islington in 1871 but they could be in either Islington or Cambridgeshire in 1861. I hope I haven't confused you too much as all the info you have given me is brilliant and means that I think this family would be solved with the other census'. Thanks again, Emma

Hi Jess Please could you look on the 1891 census for Henry James Foreman born 1864 Gravesend kent Eliza Janes Foreman born 1869 Rye Sussex. Maud Alice Foreman born 1891 May Rye Sussex. 1881 not marr Henry is on a ship he is a seaman 1901 marr living 57, Pelham Rd. Gravesend kent several people have tried but cannot find them hope you can help. Jane. He

Emma- George is still at home on 1871 Elizabeth Lord 1847 Holborn, Middlesex, England Daughter St Mary Newington London Elizabeth Lord 1870 Newington, Surrey, England Niece St Mary Newington London George Lord 1852 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Son St Mary Newington London James Lord 1848 Holborn, Middlesex, England Son St Mary Newington London

Emma. 1881 - imagine he was born Maidford or Maidwell Clara Lord abt 1874 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Elizabeth Lord abt 1830 Brinkley, Cambridgeshire, England Wife 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Elizabeth Lord abt 1871 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Ellen Lord abt 1864 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Francis Lord abt 1867 Islington, Middlesex, England Son 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England George Lord abt 1826 Malefed, Northamptonshire, England Head 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Marian Lord abt 1876 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London, England Thomas Lord abt 1866 Islington, Middlesex, England Son 9 Albion Place, St Mary Islington, London

Emma 1871 is evading me at the moment! 1861 Edward Lord 1854 Holborn, Middlesex, England Son Islington St Mary Middlesex Elizabeth Lord 1829 Cambridgeshire, England Wife Islington St Mary Middlesex Emma Lord 1860 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington St Mary Middlesex George Lord 1827 Northamptonshire, England Head Islington St Mary Middlesex George Lord 1852 Holborn, Middlesex, England Son Islington St Mary Middlesex James Francis Lord 1856 Holborn, Middlesex, England Son Islington St Mary Middlesex

Emma- not George but I'll bet its his brother (clarifies B place too) Ann Lord 1808 Eydon, Northamptonshire, England Wife Maidford Northamptonshire Eliz L Lord 1860 Maidford, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Maidford Northamptonshire William Lord 1825 Maidford, Northamptonshire, England Head Maidford Northamptonshire

Emma - 1871 mistranscribed as LARD!! Edward Lard 1854 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London Elizabeth Lard 1829 Cambridgeshire, England Wife Islington London Elizabeth Lard 1871 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington London Ellen Lard 1864 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington London Emma Lard 1861 Islington, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington London Francis Lard 1867 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London George Lard 1825 Northamptonshire, England Head Islington London George Lard 1852 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London James Lard 1856 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London Thomas Lard 1866 Islington, Middlesex, England Son Islington London

Hi Jess Thankyou for all the info. It all fits together now. Emma is Ellen's(1885) mother. I am not sure but I think it is possible that emma may go be Ellen on the other census'. On the 1881 census there is an Ellen who is 17 (1863). Does she appear on the 1891 census with Ellen(1885). Would you be able to check 44 Dorset St on the 1891 census as I don't have a head or wife of the family. Thanks for everything though. I really appreciate it!! Emma

Jane. Think i've looked before too- when in 1891 was Maud Born? is this possibly her birth? Name: Foreman, Alice Maude Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1893 District: Petworth County: Sussex Volume: 2b Page: 321 (click to see others

Hi Jess Sorry, could you check the 1871 you sent me, I can't see the head of that family. Do they come on seperate pages or could they be mistranscribed? If they don't have anything else on them would you be able to give me the folio no's so I can look them up on the microfilm at the family records centre. Ithink this is where my mystery about Emma/ Ellen Lord may be. I couldn't find Emma on the 1881 census either. Thanks again, Emma

emma 1891 All the Lords on the page, see if you can suss it! Lord, Amy C abt 1883 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Clara abt 1874 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Edward abt 1882 Islington, London Son Islington London Lord, Elizabeth abt 1872 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Lord, Ellen abt 1885 Islington, London Granddaughter Islington London Lord, George abt 1826 Maidford, Northampton Head Islington London Lord, William A abt 1889 Islington, London Son Islington London and the previous page... Lord, Amy abt 1856 Islington, London Wife Islington London Lord, George abt 1852 Holborn, London Head Islington London Lord, Henry G abt 1880 Islington, London Son Islington London

Hi Jess THANKYOU, THANKYOU, THANKYOU!!! You have given me so much info now. I now know that Emma was always Emma and not Ellen so now I have to work out where she is on the 1881 census and 1891 census. Her daughter is the original Ellen Lord that I told you about and she was with the family in 1891. Anyway, Thanks again. Couldn't get pass this one before as I only had a mother(Emma)and no father and i didn't know how old Emma was. Thanks, Emma

Hi Jess Hope you can help with BMD info. I'm trying to trace my husbands parents and unfortunately we know next to nothing about them apart from their names. From the electoral registers I have worked out that MAUD ETHEL PARRY died approx 1938/1939 and MARK LESLIE PARRY died about 1956/1957, both in Leicester. I think they may have married round about 1915 but don't even know if it was in Leicester. I would be very grateful if you can offer help, but don't worry if this is not enough information for you to go on. Bit of a long shot I know. Many thanks Bev Parry

Bev- its all too late for ancestry really - depending on how old they were when they married. Would love to help - is it rude to ask how he doesn't know this basic info Jess (an adoptee who knows virtually nothing herself!!)

jenny i can't see themon 1871 at the moment 1861 Charles Newitt 1826 Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England Head Long Buckby Northamptonshire Charles Newitt 1855 Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England Son Long Buckby Northamptonshire Elizabeth Newitt 1828 St Giles, Northamptonshire, England Wife Long Buckby Northamptonshire Elizabeth Newitt 1852 Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Long Buckby Northamptonshire Maria J Newitt 1850 Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Long Buckby Northamptonshire Sarah A Newitt 1858 Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Long Buckby Northamptonshire Thomas W Newitt 1849 St Giles, Northamptonshire, England Son Long Buckby Northamptonshire Charles was a bootmaker address is odd, household 35,looks like Che Quin.

Hi Jess Thanks anyway. I presume I will have to take a trip to the records library and ask for help. Not rude to ask at all , but I've just realised I put husbands parents in in my first message. I meant grandparents - Husbands father was not a great communicator about his past, and didn't keep in contact with his family. Only found his birth and marriage certificates when he died and so I've very little to go on. Cannot find any birth info for either of them so I was hoping the death certificates could give me ages. Oh well I shall keep trying. Thanks again Bev

Jenny still l can't find any of them on 1871, tried all the christian names and years (although their birthplaces change) Will look again tommorow - i'm tired- guess they are all together and mistrancribed but as what is beyond me. i am working on the assumption they stayed in L Buckby

Hi Jess Maud Alice Foreman was born 10th May 1891 Rye Sussex.No one seems to to be able to find her and her parents on the 1891 census. Jane.

Jane Henry James Foreman born 1864 Gravesend kent Eliza Janes Foreman born 1869 Rye Susse 1881 not marr Henry is on a ship he is a seaman 1901 marr living 57, Pelham Rd. Gravesend kent When and where did they marry please?

Hi Jess Henry James Foreman married Eliza Welfare 10 August 1890. Strood.Kent. Jane