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Lisa- what other info are you hoping for? Jess

kimberley Major, Richard 1871 June Marriages St Saviour Southwark London Surrey Major, Richard 1873 December Marriages Teesdale Co. Durham North Riding of Yorkshire Major, Richard 1873 December Marriages Chelsea (1841-1981) Greater London London Middlesex Major, Richard 1873 December Marriages St Saviour Southwark London Surrey Major, Richard 1873 September Marriages Bridport Dorset Major, Richard Dampier 1876 March Marriages Bridport Dorset MAJOR, Richard Rowe 1881 September Marriages Penzance Cornwall MAJOR, Richard Stephen 1881 June Marriages Wigan Greater Manchester Lancashire MAJOR, Richard William 1877 June Marriages Sculcoates East Riding of Yorkshire

Jess, Thank you so much for all your help on the Churchman Family in Ipswich, you found so much in such a short time!!! Sorry I forgot to tell you they were brothers and sisters with the exception of Charles who was a son!! If you have time and it is no trouble any further info on the 1871 census would be great. I think that the Charlotte may have been put in the workhouse because her father died when she was very young, I've come across her in the 1881 census still in the workhouse. Why her older siblings didn't take her in I don't know!! Anyway this newbie gratefully appreciates all your help! Kind regards Lisa

Hi Jess.Ref1861 Cowgill.My most grateful Thanks.Ron

Christopher 1891 is proving harder at the moment the one one obvious is Mary Ellen (wonder what she did?) Name: Rowley, Mary Ellen Age in 1891: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Pauper Gender: Female Where Born: Leeds, Yorkshire Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist County: Yorkshire Source information: RG12/3696 Registration district: Leeds Sub registration district: North Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: Leeds Moral and Industrial Training School Folio: 142 Page: 5 ------------------------------------- other 3 girls Rowley, Catherine abt 1875 Leeds, Yorkshire Sick Inmate Leeds Yorkshire Rowley, Elizabeth abt 1886 Leeds, Yorkshire Sick Inmate Leeds Yorkshire Rowley, Rose Ann abt 1877 Leeds, Yorkshire Sick Inmate Leeds Yorkshire Source information: RG12/3696 Registration district: Leeds Sub registration district: North Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: Leeds Union Infirmary Folio: 132 Page: 14 ----------------------------------------------------- So presume Mum and dad are somewhere without them!! Johns bith year returns None, and ditto with given birth place. Just yorkshire returns 5 pages of that name. Wife is almost as bad! will move on to 1901 and see if 1891 then becomes more apparent.

Christopher 1881- Could this be the right family? John Rowley abt 1856 Sherburn, Yorkshire, England Head 45 Little Off Street, Leeds, Yorkshire, England >occ Labourer Kate Rowley abt 1875 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter 45 Little Off Street, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Mary Ellen Rowley abt 1880 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter 45 Little Off Street, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Rose Ann Rowley abt 1877 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter 45 Little Off Street, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Sarah Rowley abt 1857 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Wife 45 Little Off Street, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Hello Jess, would you be kind enough to do a look up for a family called Rowley who lived in Leeds or the suburb of Hunslet in Leeds. In 1915 John Rowley the head of the family was living at 49 Cavalier Street when Rose Ann Moran his daughter married again to Maurice Ingram. Would you look up from 1881 to 1901please? The family that I know of consisted of the Father John Rowley. The mother is believed to be called Rose, but that’s not certain. What is clear is that the daughter’s names were Rose Ann born 1882 but I believe it could have been nearer 1876. Mary E born C1882. Elizabeth born c1877 and Ellen/Helen born c1878. Any help would be appreciated. May I add my thanks to all the research you do for me. You have saved my hours and days of toil searching through the census data at my local library. You are appreciated beyond belief. Thank you Jess

Ronald + a son Elizabeth Cowgill abt 1812 Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Wife Habergham Eaves Lancashire James Cowgill abt 1810 Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Head Habergham Eaves Lancashire >AG LAB John Cowgill abt 1850 Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Son Habergham Eaves Lancashire >ERRAND BOY Thomas Dudgeon abt 1833 Emborough, Yorkshire, England Boarder Habergham Eaves Lancashire >MINER the address:not what you said, 7 Alina Place-very clear! ---------------------------------------------------

Jess Ref:John Cook. Thanks again. Possibly empty building ?Have to live with the chefle! The earlier the census the worst the image apparently.could you check another for 1861 please. I have rg10/4151 1871 census Burnley. 132 Rose Valley. James Cowgill hd mar 61 (bn c1810)miner bn Colne,Lancs.Elizabeth Cowgill wife 59 (bn c1812) miners wife bn Habergham Eaves,Burnley.It is probably just this pair in the 1861census but any other family members would be a bonus.Grateful Thanks Ron

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Ronald have the image in front of me now: The beer shop is all it says, next door to would looks like HUmpty (!) buildings- deff an H at the front! Might be Hump Top... Really duff image! agnes is Transcribed as Born 'Chefles.I would have read it myself as Chefley too-its certainly what it looks like! No Problem , ask away!! Jess

Hi Jess Ref: 1861 census John Cook bn 1810 Barrowford. Lancs.Don,t know how I missed spotting your reply having trawled through every reply on thread can only blame it on the problem I.m having with very large text.(or senile decay) This is my man. 'Your,re a Star' Thank you very much. If I could impose on you further,not being familiar with 1861 census returns. Does it show an address ?or just the village. 1871 shows him at the 'Inkermann Inn'Accrington Rd. Habergham Eaves.Lancs.1871 also shows Agnes Cook his wife as born Lancaster. Your 61 Transcription shows born chefles ??Lancs.Sorry to ask but could you possibly clarify these two points. Kind Regards Ron

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Oh Jess you are a star i have wonderd where John had gone. Thank you Lita

Lita.1861 resident in Exeter returns nothing Born in exeter :- 1 Emma Blatchley abt 1853 Exeter, Devon, England Daughter St Andrew Devon 2 Jno Blatchley abt 1783 Exeter, Devon, England In Pensioner Greenwich Kent 3 Mary Blatchley abt 1796 Exeter, Devon, England Head Exeter Holy Trinity Devon 4 Sarah Blatchley abt 1831 Exeter, Devon, England Wife St Andrew Devon 5 William Blatchley abt 1850 Exeter, Devon, England Son St Andrew Devon ------------------------------------------------- 1. Abraham Blatchley abt 1828 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Head St Andrew Devon Edward Blatchley abt 1858 Plymouth, Devon, England Son St Andrew Devon Emma Blatchley abt 1853 Exeter, Devon, England Daughter St Andrew Devon Sarah Blatchley abt 1831 Exeter, Devon, England Wife St Andrew Devon William Blatchley abt 1850 Exeter, Devon, England Son St Andrew Devon 2 Jno Blatchley Source information: RG9/403 Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Greenwich East ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Naval Hospital Greenwich B Folio: 114 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1 GSU Number: 542631 3. Mary Blatchley abt 1796 Exeter, Devon, England Head Exeter Holy Trinity Devon 4. Is in family 1 5.is in family 1 -------------------------------------------------------- 1871 again living in Exeter is zero born in = 1.Caroline Blatchley abt 1857 Exeter, Devon, England Daughter Holy Trinity Devon 2.Jane Blatchley abt 1848 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Holy Trinity Devon 3.John Blatchley abt 1853 Exeter, Devon, England Son Holy Trinity Devon 4.Mark Blatchley abt 1844 Exeter, Devon, England Head St Sidwell Devon 5.Mercy P Blatchley abt 1855 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Paddington London 6.Rebecca Blatchley abt 1850 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Holy Trinity Devon 7.Sarah Blatchley abt 1832 Exeter Wife St Mary Major Devon 8.Thomas Blatchley abt 1862 Exeter, Devon, England Son Holy Trinity Devon --------------------------------------------------------- Just sorting them out- hang on.... 1,8 & 3 Caroline Blatchley abt 1857 Exeter, Devon, England Daughter Holy Trinity Devon Jane Blatchley abt 1817 Newton Abbot, Devon, England Wife Holy Trinity Devon John Blatchley abt 1853 Exeter, Devon, England Son Holy Trinity Devon Thomas Blatchley abt 1822 Stonehouse, Devon, England Head Holy Trinity Devon Thomas Blatchley abt 1862 Exeter, Devon, England Son Holy Trinity Devon 2 & 6 Jane Blatchley abt 1848 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Holy Trinity Devon Rebecca Blatchley abt 1850 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Holy Trinity Devon Emma S Forord abt 1833 Highweek, Devon, England Niece Holy Trinity Devon Mary L Forord abt 1794 Plymouth, Devon, England Head Holy Trinity Devon 4, Mark Blatchley abt 1844 Exeter, Devon, England Head St Sidwell Devon 5 Alexander Balderston abt 1823 Great Baddow, Essex, England Head Paddington London Ellen Balderston abt 1825 St Clement, Middlesex, England Wife Paddington London Mercy P Blatchley abt 1855 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Paddington London Mary E Hayward abt 1845 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Paddington London Herbert Warren abt 1859 Lewisham, Kent, England Nephew Paddington London Jane Warren abt 1818 St Clement, Middlesex, England Sister-in-law Paddington London 7 Edward Blatchley abt 1858 Plymouth, St Andrew Son St Mary Major Devon Robert Blatchley abt 1831 Bristol Head St Mary Major Devon Sarah Blatchley abt 1832 Exeter Wife St Mary Major Devon ** No Not Many!!

Hi Jess looking for the Blatchley name in Exeter 1861 - 1871 please there should be not many if any. Thank you Lita

Lisa- good first post! Most of what was needed was there- their relationship to each other might have helped a bit, but think i have found most of them! 4 of them together:-1871 Charles Churchman abt 1867 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich Trinity Suffolk Daniel Churchman abt 1854 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Brother Ipswich Trinity Suffolk >occ LABOURER Julia Churchman abt 1848 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Head Ipswich Trinity Suffolk >occ SILK WINDER William Churchman abt 1859 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Brother Ipswich Trinity Suffolk >occ SILK WEAVER address :Thons Court (not very clear) ------------------------------------------------------- Where is charlotte? Oh dear...wonder what happened? she's in the workhouse... Name: Charlotte Churchman Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Gender: Female Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil Parish or Township: Ipswich St Peter County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Source information: RG10/1752 Registration district: Ipswich Sub-registration district: St Matthew ED, institution, or vessel: Ipswich Union Workhouse Folio: 114 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1 ------------------------------------------------ looking for 1861 now Quite a big family in 1861 Caroline Churchman abt 1856 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Charlotte Churchman abt 1860 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Daniel Churchman abt 1816 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Head Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Daniel Churchman abt 1854 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Eliza Churchman abt 1852 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk John Churchman abt 1850 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Juila A Churchman abt 1848 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Mary A Churchman abt 1823 Fransden, Suffolk, England Wife Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Mary A Churchman abt 1846 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk William T Churchman abt 1858 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich St Clement Suffolk address: Fore Hamelet (again V hard to read) Anyone in the above household eld enough to work was employed in the 'Silk factory' except John who was a butchers boy. ------------------------------------------------------- if you want the others hunting down in 1871 or any other census please shout jess x

THANK YOU JESS. Yes, that's him and he is with his Mum. His Mum's husband died 1 1/2 yr previous to his birth, so unless she had a really long pregnancy, the father is unknown. I have ordered his birth certificate from Plymouth and hope it will give me a clue. Thanks .

JAN is this the mystery person.. Thomas Eastman abt 1876 Plymouth, Devon, England Boarder Plymouth Devon John Elford abt 1866 Yealmpton, Devon, England Boarder Plymouth Devon James Fullman abt 1862 Exeter, Devon, England Boarder Plymouth Devon William Joseph Lawrey abt 1882 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Plymouth Devon >fishernam on a trawler Celia Eustice Ogilvie abt 1846 Pobman, Cornwall, England Head Plymouth Devon adress1 Gasking St Source information: RG13/2092 Registration district: Plymouth Sub-registration district: Charles ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 148 Page: 26 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 195