Genealogy Chat

Bruce- all the Mclaren's born scotland in kent= Agnes McLaren abt 1842 Larnaskshire, Scotland Wife Plumstead Kent Alexander McLaren abt 1830 Sterlingshire, Scotland Head Plumstead Kent Alexander McLaren abt 1831 Leith, Midlothian (Edinburgh), Scotland Mate Vessels Kent Alexander McLaren abt 1847 Lochee, Angus, Scotland Ord Seaman Vessels Kent Archable McLaren abt 1856 Larnaskshire, Scotland Son Plumstead Kent John McLaren abt 1860 Plumstead, Scotland Son Plumstead Kent William McLaren abt 1836 Scotland Lodger Lewisham Kent William McLaren abt 1821 Scotland Head Woolwich Kent all the John's /J McLaren's in kent born 'wherever' J McLaren abt 1835 Ireland Soldier Sheerness Kent James H McLaren abt 1861 Woolwich, Kent, England Son Woolwich Kent John McLaren abt 1837 Wifesline, Longline N B Beckenham Kent <--THOUGHT WORTH A LOOK ,SEE BELOW John McLaren abt 1860 Plumstead, Scotland Son Plumstead Kent ----------------------------------------------------- Henry Button abt 1840 Stansted, Kent, England Beckenham Kent Fredk Goodwin abt 1860 Beckenham, Kent, England Son Beckenham Kent Henry Goodwin abt 1834 Oxford, Suffolk, England Head Beckenham Kent Mary Goodwin abt 1835 Bath, Somerset, England Wife Beckenham Kent James Marshall abt 1817 Woodham Ferrers, Essex, England Head Beckenham Kent Mary Ann Marshall abt 1822 Soberton, Hampshire, England Wife Beckenham Kent -->John McLaren abt 1837 Wifesline, Longline N B Beckenham Kent Robt Mickelburgh abt 1833 Penlice, Middlesex, England Beckenham Kent George Tucker abt 1839 Bristol, Somerset, England Beckenham Kent

Lesley- reduced by adding 'shropshire' Edwards, Eleanor 1837 December Deaths Ludlow Herefordshire Shropshire Edwards, Eleanor 1838 March Deaths Ellesmere Flintshire Shropshire Edwards, Eleanor 1839 March Deaths Ludlow Herefordshire Shropshire Edwards, Eleanor 1839 September Deaths Oswestry Denbighshire Shropshire EDWARDS, Eleanor 1840 December Deaths Wolverhampton Shropshire Staffordshire West Midlands EDWARDS, Eleanor 1840 March Deaths Kidderminster Hereford and Worcester Shropshire Staffordshire Worcestershire EDWARDS, Eleanor 1845 March Deaths Madeley Shropshire EDWARDS, Eleanor 1846 March Deaths Shrewsbury (1837-71) Shropshire Edwards, Eleanor 1858 June Deaths Kidderminster Hereford and Worcester Shropshire Staffordshire Worcestershire EDWARDS, Eleanor 1859 June Deaths Stourbridge Shropshire Staffordshire Warwickshire West Midlands Worcestershire Edwards, Eleanor 1865 December Deaths West Bromwich Shropshire Staffordshire Worcestershire Edwards, Sarah Eleanor 1855 September Deaths Oswestry Denbighshire Shropshire

I have just been given 1851 for John info is All shropshire living in Longnor shropshire Head:John... farm lab...b:c1803 stapleton Wife:Helen...b;smethcott age 53? Daugh: Mary b:smethcott age 19 Son;Richard b:Lomgnor age 12? Daugh: Jane b;Longnor age ? Son:Edward b:Longnor age 4 1861 - 60 park lane smethcott Head:John (widower)....agr lab Son:John b: 1830 smethcott...agr lab Daugh:Mary(as on 1851) married S.In.Law : Huhben (hugh) Jones b:c1836 Winstanstow.....agr lab Daugh(mary&Hugh's) Elenor Harriet Jones b;c1860 smethcott. 1871 - 25 Bank House longnor Head:John (widower) Daugh-in-law: Ellen Fox b:c1838 church stretton Son:Richard Fox b:c1838 Longnor labourer Grandson: James fox b:c1862 Longnor. hope this helps and doesnt confuse you more lol thanxs lesley :~)

give me 1 min Jess while i just find info thanxs lesley :~)

Lesley- appologies for missing you. Entering criteria 1850+/- 10 years, so encompassing 1840-1860, there are 80 returns for that name. Narrow it down a bit? Did her husband remain in the same place.if so where?

Jess I posted a thread at 3.30pm today Think you missed me? lol Thanxs lesley :~)

any more?

Thanx for all your help Jess, you have been a huge help! I definately know where to come for info next time! Kind regards Lisa

Thanks Jess, I just wish they could have been a bit more imaginative with names. Perhaps thats why we find them with a middle name after a few years of life, they added it to be a bit different. Didn't think of us poor souls trying to sort it all out, did they! Thanks again Gloria

reply for Christine John Johnstone abt 1874 Heswell, Cheshire, England Son Oadby Leicestershire Maggie Johnstone abt 1875 Scotland Daughter Oadby Leicestershire Mary Johnstone abt 1851 Scotland Wife Oadby Leicestershire Samuel Johnstone abt 1851 Scotland Head Oadby Leicestershire William Johnstone abt 1880 Scotland Son Oadby Leicestershire address Household 114 Spencer St His occupation is gardener , as is that of his sons John and William ----------------------------------------- In answer to you second question- is it his death in 1923? i have no idea! You'd have to send for the cert and see who where why when and what!! jess x

christine. your request - pasted here- its easier. You reply will also be here. ................................................................................... Sorry if this is not how I should ask the questions. New to this threads thing. SAMUEL JOHNSTONE I have him 10 days old in the 1851 census Caerlaverock, Dumfries. Would like to know his address in the 1901 census. I know him to be in Oadby, Leicester with his wife Mary. I would also like to know if you can tell if he is the same Samuel Johnstone that died in the 3/4 of 1923 in Leicester that I found on www1837. He was a gardener that moved about a bit but might still be in Oadby when he died. I live in Scotland where the www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk site has given me all I need for all but this one person that 'escaped' south! Please, if you find anything, send info back via this message page. Thanks Christine

Gloria. My gut feeling is they are one and the same. jess

Could you please look up a death for me please Jess? Eleanor edwards she died between 1838 (last childs birth yr) and 1861 her husband John Fox is on 1861 census Smethcott shropshire as Widower. All her children born smethcott apart from last 1 it says Longnor shropshire. Many thanxs lesley :~)

Ok Thanxs Jess Lesley :~)

lesley - 1837

Hi Jess, I have written to you before as regards this family and have just recieved the birth certificate of the lady in question. Eliza Davies (1) married James Herbert Marsden 1896 in Heaton Norris Stockport. They are in 1901 with two children, and Eliza (1) is down as being born in Matlock, Derbyshire. Her father on the marriage cert was Thomas Richard (but looks like Rachel) Davies (desceased--we had a chat about this the other day, I sent for the wrong cert). On Eliza (2)Davies birth cert, her father is Thomas Davies, mother Martha Ann Davies nee Jackson, they lived at Cheadle Bulkeley, Stockport. I have found this Eliza (2) on 1881 and 1891 census The Eliza (1)in 1901 married to James Herbert is correct but I am trying to link her as the same person as Eliza (2). I know this sounds complicated and as there are so many coincidences in name it should be the same person, I am having trouble convincing myself of it though. Hope you can help, we have been part of the way down this route before. Gloria xx

Hi Jess What year does your bmd start please? Thanxs lesley :~)

Lisa 1871 picking them off one by one. 1. Name: Caroline Churchman Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Servant Household:large family of FOX Gender: Female Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England 2. Name: Charlotte Churchman Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Gender: Female Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil Parish or Township: Ipswich St Peter County/Island: Suffolk Country: England ED, institution, or vessel: Ipswich Union Workhouse These 4 together: Charles Churchman abt 1867 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich Trinity Suffolk <--not with family in 1861 4.Daniel Churchman abt 1854 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Brother Ipswich Trinity Suffolk 7.Julia Churchman abt 1848 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Head Ipswich Trinity Suffolk 10.William Churchman abt 1859 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Brother Ipswich Trinity Suffolk ------------------------------------------------------- guess Eliza married Churchman, Eliza J 1866 December Marriages Woodbridge Suffolk Knights, John 1866 December Marriages Woodbridge Suffolk ----------------------------------------------------- right sort of age to be the demise of Mary A Name: CHURCHMAN, Mary A Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 21 Quarter: December Year: 1866 District: Ipswich County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 355 -------------------------------------------------------- Julia married eventually -Hope she married the Rowland, lets see Beaumont, Ellen 1873 December Marriages Ipswich Suffolk Churchman, Julia 1873 December Marriages Ipswich Suffolk ROWLAND, George William 1873 December Marriages Ipswich Suffolk

Lisa here is the 1861 - dont know if you have it, it was there, so thought i'd post it anyway! 1.Caroline Churchman abt 1856 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk 2.Charlotte Churchman abt 1860 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk 3.Daniel Churchman abt 1816 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Head Ipswich St Clement Suffolk <--- DAD 4.Daniel Churchman abt 1854 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich St Clement Suffolk 5.Eliza Churchman abt 1852 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk 6.John Churchman abt 1850 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich St Clement Suffolk 7.Juila A Churchman abt 1848 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk 8.Mary A Churchman abt 1823 Fransden, Suffolk, England Wife Ipswich St Clement Suffolk <---MUM 9.Mary A Churchman abt 1846 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk 10.William T Churchman abt 1858 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich St Clement Suffolk

Hi Jess, Further to the Churchman Family that you kindly looked up for me, please could you see if the following are in the 1871 census as well? They are all siblings of one another:- Caroline Churchman born c1856, Ipswich, Suffolk Eliza Churchman born c1852, Ipswich, Suffolk John Churchman born c1850, Ipswich, Suffolk William T Churchman born c1858, Ipswich, Suffolk The girls I appreciate may have married and I may have to dig further for details of them but hopefully worth a look anyway, you never know! Thanx in advance, Lisa