Genealogy Chat

Anyone else wanting? shame Jill never came back..........

Please could you look up information on the 1871 census with regards to my Grand Grandmother Louisa Dye. She was born around 1864 in Brownhills Staffordshire. (This information taken fron 1891 and 1901 cenus) Also am trying to locate her marriage to My Great Grandfather John William Clark (Clarke on census mentioned). He was born 1865 in Kiverton Park Yorkshire. However my Great Uncle William Clark and Grandfather James Clark was born 1887 and 1891 in North Wingfield Derbsyhire. Have been unable to locate as to where the marriage took place in Yorkshire, Derbyshire and just over the Border in Nottinghamshire. Any information on either Great Grandparents would be welcome. Thank You

Joy 1871 does ths look likethe right family to you- birthplace given not Brownhills Elizabeth Dye abt 1867 Hammerwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter Hammerwich Staffordshire George Dye abt 1868 Hammerwich, Staffordshire, England Son Hammerwich Staffordshire Louisa Dye abt 1865 Hammerwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter Hammerwich Staffordshire Mary Dye abt 1840 Bagworth, Leicestershire, England Wife Hammerwich Staffordshire William Dye abt 1841 Pentney, Norfolk, England Head Hammerwich Staffordshire William Dye abt 1870 Hammerwich, Staffordshire, England Son Hammerwich Staffordshire * Is Louisa a servant for family GREGORY in 1881? married John Clark and had sons william and james..? yes?

Hi Jess, is there anywhere which gives the age at death of someone. On ancestry Joshua Kippax died september quarter 1851 Burnley Lancashire, vol 21, page 150. Doesn't give an age. I have looked on 1837 and that doesn't give an age. I have a Joshua Kippax and he would have been born in 1700's as he has a son James born abt 1819. Any ideas. I don't want to send for the cert only to find it has no chance of being him. Hope you can help Gloria x

not sure, gloria, some do, whennthis was introduced i am not sure ancestry , for this one doesn't either Name: KIPPAX, Joshua Record Type: Deaths Quarter: September Year: 1851 District: Burnley County: Lancashire West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 21 Page: 150 (click to see others on page) *for example - just any old joshua Name: Ainsworth, Joshua Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 59 Quarter: June Year: 1891 District: Ashton under Lyne County: Cheshire Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 527 (click to see others on page) just gone banging back 1871-seems to have ages , but 61 not- dont take my word for it though!!

That was fast Jess, thanks for trying but it looks like I am going to have to send for the cert. Gloria X

anyone wanting tonight whilst everyone else on the planet is watching the footie ?!!

Jean, my magic wand is broken and my crystal ball about as clear as porridge tonight! Is it likely to be this one Durant, Margaret abt 1848 Lambeth, London Housekeeper St Paul Deptford London Although it says houseleeper , looking at the image it actully says school mistress...Likely?also marital status S

Thank you Jess I think you have found the right family of Dye's as looking on a map Hammerwich is not far from Brownhills. I do believe that the Louisa Dye you found as a servant is the same one I found on the 1881 census. She lived near North Wingfield in Derbyshire by then. I think this is where she met and Married John William Clark(e). Their Sons William 1887 and James 1891 were born here. I think that possibly the whole family of Dye's may have moved to this district. There may also be a daughter Lily born sometime between William and James. I have James' Birth Cert but am unable to trace any record what so ever of Louisa and Johns marriage. Thank you again for your time and effort it is much appreciated. Joy

Joy, so hopefully the marriage was between 1881 and 1887 in Staffordshire or possibly Derbyshire? (waited to make sure i was on the right track before proceding) jess yes 1891 -they stuck together and show lilly, not sure where the boys are though! Clarke, Lilly abt 1890 North Wingfield, Derbyshire Daughter North Wingfield Derbyshire Clarke, Louisa abt 1865 Brownhill, Staffordshire Wife North Wingfield Derbyshire Clarke, William abt 1888 North Wingfield, Derbyshire Son North Wingfield Derbyshire Dye, Alice abt 1878 Brownhill, Staffordshire Daughter North Wingfield Derbyshire Dye, Eliza abt 1874 Brownhill, Staffordshire Daughter North Wingfield Derbyshire Dye, George abt 1868 Brownhill, Staffordshire Son North Wingfield Derbyshire Dye, James abt 1872 Brownhill, Staffordshire Son North Wingfield Derbyshire Dye, Leah abt 1882 Pilsley, Derbyshire Daughter North Wingfield Derbyshire Dye, Mary abt 1840 Bagsworth, Leicestershire Wife North Wingfield Derbyshire Dye, William abt 1841 Pentney, Norfolk Head North Wingfield Derbyshire

anyone? Ronald; Your 1861 Cook is on page 7 i think... thought i had done it!

Hi Jess. Iv'e got a bit of a dark mystery to one of my lines. Would you do me the honours and check William Lawrey/Lawry on the 1901 Census. He was born in Plymouth and comes up as being 19 in 1901, so would have been born 1881/1882. He is a fisherman. Can you get me the address and any other persons in the household. Thanks in advance. Hope you are well. Jan

Hello Jess, First time I have asked for a look up so hope this is ok:- 1861 & 1871 census look up please for Julia Churchman born c1846 Ipswich, Suffolk Daniel Churchman born c1854,Ipswich, Suffolk William Churchman born c1859, Ipswich, Suffolk Charlotte Churchman born c1861, Ipswich, Suffolk Charles Churchman born c1867, Ipswich, Suffolk If you need more, please let me know. Thanx in advance Lisa x

Thank you again. Yes you are on the right track. You had got the right family on the 1891 cenus. You have the mother, Daughter and elsdest son. But no father but have had it confirmed that he was there at the time by someone else. James however was born in June so was not the census. Because he was born in North Wingfield and registered in Chesterfield I thought that is where the marriage would be, but have now gone further a field in neighbourghing counties. I have found a John William Clark marrying in June 85 but it doesn't state as to whom. This was found on Ancestry*com When I looked for others on the same list only 3 people were mentioned so am begining to think that Louisa Dye is the missing person. Thanks For your help.

JAN is this the mystery person.. Thomas Eastman abt 1876 Plymouth, Devon, England Boarder Plymouth Devon John Elford abt 1866 Yealmpton, Devon, England Boarder Plymouth Devon James Fullman abt 1862 Exeter, Devon, England Boarder Plymouth Devon William Joseph Lawrey abt 1882 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Plymouth Devon >fishernam on a trawler Celia Eustice Ogilvie abt 1846 Pobman, Cornwall, England Head Plymouth Devon adress1 Gasking St Source information: RG13/2092 Registration district: Plymouth Sub-registration district: Charles ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 148 Page: 26 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 195

THANK YOU JESS. Yes, that's him and he is with his Mum. His Mum's husband died 1 1/2 yr previous to his birth, so unless she had a really long pregnancy, the father is unknown. I have ordered his birth certificate from Plymouth and hope it will give me a clue. Thanks .

Lisa- good first post! Most of what was needed was there- their relationship to each other might have helped a bit, but think i have found most of them! 4 of them together:-1871 Charles Churchman abt 1867 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich Trinity Suffolk Daniel Churchman abt 1854 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Brother Ipswich Trinity Suffolk >occ LABOURER Julia Churchman abt 1848 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Head Ipswich Trinity Suffolk >occ SILK WINDER William Churchman abt 1859 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Brother Ipswich Trinity Suffolk >occ SILK WEAVER address :Thons Court (not very clear) ------------------------------------------------------- Where is charlotte? Oh dear...wonder what happened? she's in the workhouse... Name: Charlotte Churchman Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Gender: Female Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil Parish or Township: Ipswich St Peter County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Source information: RG10/1752 Registration district: Ipswich Sub-registration district: St Matthew ED, institution, or vessel: Ipswich Union Workhouse Folio: 114 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1 ------------------------------------------------ looking for 1861 now Quite a big family in 1861 Caroline Churchman abt 1856 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Charlotte Churchman abt 1860 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Daniel Churchman abt 1816 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Head Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Daniel Churchman abt 1854 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Eliza Churchman abt 1852 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk John Churchman abt 1850 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Juila A Churchman abt 1848 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Mary A Churchman abt 1823 Fransden, Suffolk, England Wife Ipswich St Clement Suffolk Mary A Churchman abt 1846 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Daughter Ipswich St Clement Suffolk William T Churchman abt 1858 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Son Ipswich St Clement Suffolk address: Fore Hamelet (again V hard to read) Anyone in the above household eld enough to work was employed in the 'Silk factory' except John who was a butchers boy. ------------------------------------------------------- if you want the others hunting down in 1871 or any other census please shout jess x

Hi Jess looking for the Blatchley name in Exeter 1861 - 1871 please there should be not many if any. Thank you Lita

Lita.1861 resident in Exeter returns nothing Born in exeter :- 1 Emma Blatchley abt 1853 Exeter, Devon, England Daughter St Andrew Devon 2 Jno Blatchley abt 1783 Exeter, Devon, England In Pensioner Greenwich Kent 3 Mary Blatchley abt 1796 Exeter, Devon, England Head Exeter Holy Trinity Devon 4 Sarah Blatchley abt 1831 Exeter, Devon, England Wife St Andrew Devon 5 William Blatchley abt 1850 Exeter, Devon, England Son St Andrew Devon ------------------------------------------------- 1. Abraham Blatchley abt 1828 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Head St Andrew Devon Edward Blatchley abt 1858 Plymouth, Devon, England Son St Andrew Devon Emma Blatchley abt 1853 Exeter, Devon, England Daughter St Andrew Devon Sarah Blatchley abt 1831 Exeter, Devon, England Wife St Andrew Devon William Blatchley abt 1850 Exeter, Devon, England Son St Andrew Devon 2 Jno Blatchley Source information: RG9/403 Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: Greenwich East ED, institution, or vessel: Royal Naval Hospital Greenwich B Folio: 114 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1 GSU Number: 542631 3. Mary Blatchley abt 1796 Exeter, Devon, England Head Exeter Holy Trinity Devon 4. Is in family 1 5.is in family 1 -------------------------------------------------------- 1871 again living in Exeter is zero born in = 1.Caroline Blatchley abt 1857 Exeter, Devon, England Daughter Holy Trinity Devon 2.Jane Blatchley abt 1848 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Holy Trinity Devon 3.John Blatchley abt 1853 Exeter, Devon, England Son Holy Trinity Devon 4.Mark Blatchley abt 1844 Exeter, Devon, England Head St Sidwell Devon 5.Mercy P Blatchley abt 1855 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Paddington London 6.Rebecca Blatchley abt 1850 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Holy Trinity Devon 7.Sarah Blatchley abt 1832 Exeter Wife St Mary Major Devon 8.Thomas Blatchley abt 1862 Exeter, Devon, England Son Holy Trinity Devon --------------------------------------------------------- Just sorting them out- hang on.... 1,8 & 3 Caroline Blatchley abt 1857 Exeter, Devon, England Daughter Holy Trinity Devon Jane Blatchley abt 1817 Newton Abbot, Devon, England Wife Holy Trinity Devon John Blatchley abt 1853 Exeter, Devon, England Son Holy Trinity Devon Thomas Blatchley abt 1822 Stonehouse, Devon, England Head Holy Trinity Devon Thomas Blatchley abt 1862 Exeter, Devon, England Son Holy Trinity Devon 2 & 6 Jane Blatchley abt 1848 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Holy Trinity Devon Rebecca Blatchley abt 1850 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Holy Trinity Devon Emma S Forord abt 1833 Highweek, Devon, England Niece Holy Trinity Devon Mary L Forord abt 1794 Plymouth, Devon, England Head Holy Trinity Devon 4, Mark Blatchley abt 1844 Exeter, Devon, England Head St Sidwell Devon 5 Alexander Balderston abt 1823 Great Baddow, Essex, England Head Paddington London Ellen Balderston abt 1825 St Clement, Middlesex, England Wife Paddington London Mercy P Blatchley abt 1855 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Paddington London Mary E Hayward abt 1845 Exeter, Devon, England Servant Paddington London Herbert Warren abt 1859 Lewisham, Kent, England Nephew Paddington London Jane Warren abt 1818 St Clement, Middlesex, England Sister-in-law Paddington London 7 Edward Blatchley abt 1858 Plymouth, St Andrew Son St Mary Major Devon Robert Blatchley abt 1831 Bristol Head St Mary Major Devon Sarah Blatchley abt 1832 Exeter Wife St Mary Major Devon ** No Not Many!!

Oh Jess you are a star i have wonderd where John had gone. Thank you Lita