Genealogy Chat

Hello Jess Sorry to worry you again but could I have the info shown for the George Peek you have found on the 1861 census, inc address. Is the mother Sophia? Would still like the entry though, even if she isn't. Thought Sarah Ross would be difficult - I suppose I could also look for a death, you never know! Tku for your time. Christine

hi jess many thanks for the info it really is appreciated,you have been a great help.thanks again .rob

Christine. Elizabeth K Peake abt 1853 Deptford, Kent, England Daughter Greenwich St Alphege Kent George P Peake abt 1851 Deptford, Kent, England Son Greenwich St Alphege Kent Jemima F Peake abt 1852 Greenwich, Kent, England Daughter Greenwich St Alphege Kent Sarah S Peake abt 1822 Deptford, Kent, England Wife Greenwich St Alphege Kent Sarah S Peake abt 1858 Deptford, Kent, England Daughter Greenwich St Alphege Kent Walter G Peake abt 1855 Deptford, Kent, England Son Greenwich St Alphege Kent Mary A Winter abt 1831 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Servant Greenwich St Alphege mother sarah

Hi Jess Yes, I do know where she got married. I have a copy of her marriage certificate. Although, I am at work and it is at home. I beleive it was Tottenham, but I will check. It was registered in Edmonton. *UPDATE* I've checked and it was Palmers Green where she got married. These, from your post, are her KEENE, Arthur Albert 1909 March Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex SKEATS, Emily 1909 March Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex She married Arthur Albert Keene in 1909, and they had a daughter, called Marjorie Kathleen May Keene, who was my grandmother. If you have time, could you look up her brother Caleb (skeats), on the 1901 census please? I think he was probably a fireman. This is what you found for him in 1891. Sheats, Caleb abt 1882 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Son Edmonton Middlesex. Thanks Tracey

Tracy am just off to work, will look alter. just had a quick look to see if he might have married, came across this; Name: Skeats, Caleb Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 2 Quarter: September Year: 1891 District: Edmonton County: Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 181 (click to see others on page wonder whose he was? Must be connected

Thanks Jess, I'll check again later. Yes, he must have been connected. I think I'll order a copy of his death cert, to see who his parents were. My Mum told me that there was a Caleb Skeats, who was related to her grandmother (Emily Skeats), who was a fireman and died in a fire, trying to rescue one of his own men. I thought it must be her father, but as he was a policeman, maybe it's her brother.

Hi Jess, I know you've gone to work but could you have a look at this for me sometime. I am trying to find Robert Allen (abt 1833) Oldham Lancashire in 1871 census. I have him in 1861 census with wife Hannah (abt1835), son Samuel O (abt 1856), and daughter Mary Jane (abt 1861). Living at 20 Lower Moor, Oldham, Lanc's. In 1881 he is still with his wife Hannah, daughters Ada (abt 1876) and Rose (abt 1876) Mary Jane (1861) must have got married as she's no longer there, sons James C (abt 1867), Robert (abt 1869)and Samuel (abt 1856). Living at 1 Cow Lane, Oldham. I can't find any of them anywhere in 1871 census. Is this sort of thing a regular occurance as I have found it before with other families, they seem to go missing for a census. Thanks a lot Gloria

Gloria. posting 1861 to see birth places of others (hannah) they are all Oldham! Hannah Allen abt 1835 Oldham, Lancashire, England Wife Oldham Lancashire Mary Jane Allen abt 1861 Oldham, Lancashire, England Daughter Oldham Lancashire Robert Allen abt 1834 Oldham, Lancashire, England Head Oldham Lancashire Samuel O Allen abt 1856 Oldham, Lancashire, England Son Oldham Lancashire looking for 1871 now Looks as if the N on the end of the name wasn't very well written They hadn't gone anywhere!! Hannah Aller abt 1837 Oldham, Lancashire, England Wife Oldham Lancashire James C Aller abt 1867 Oldham, Lancashire, England Son Oldham Lancashire May J Aller abt 1862 Oldham, Lancashire, England Daughter Oldham Lancashire Robert Aller abt 1835 Oldham, Lancashire, England Head Oldham Lancashire Robert Aller abt 1869 Oldham, Lancashire, England Son Oldham Lancashire Samuel C Aller abt 1857 Oldham, Lancashire, England Son Oldham Lancashire address 8 Gibson St Robert Snr was a labourer

Thanks Jess, that looks like them, the Grace family. Could you confirm, they have TWO sons called John? One born abt 1848 and the other 1852? Does it say Charles Grace's occupation? on the 1861 census middx. Charles Grace b. Shoreditch abt 1816, Caroline Grace b. Hackney abt 1817, John, James and Matilda. Jess, could you check the 1881 census please, can find births of children EXCEPT James on FreeBMD. I can't find ANY of them on the LDS 1881. Many thanks Michaela

Michaela. It says two Johns, yes, although the older one is after the other children, and usually they are in year order decending. The actual image doesn't say SON but 'Do' which usually means Ditto and is under son, so that trancriber had taken it to mean son, although i would have my doubts.UNLESS he was the son of a former marriage of the father (but why would you call another son john if all the other children are his?) Do you have any of the childrens birth certs? it may be that the children are actually born of a Former husband that maybe died, and just used their step-fathers name Head was a labourer in the gas works ---------------------------------------------------- think i might chance this certificate Name: GRACE, Matilda Jane Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1849 District: Bethnal Green County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 2 Page: 56 (click to see others on page

Jess Tku 4 info on Peake family in Greenwich. Unfortunately dont think it is the right one. Have now asked the GRO Southport to search for George Peek's birth in Charlton Kent in 1852/54 timeframe and hope they come up with something. Tku for looking at the censuses for me. V kind of u. Christine

hristne. I did say it probably wasn't Jess

You little super star. Where did you get the idea to look for Aller instead of Allen in the 1871? Many thanks 'Super Star' Gloria xx

Gloria, i think i looked for Roberts born Oldham,what ever the year , then sort of what-looks-about-like-it..... Ever so technical as you can tell!! Jess

Thanks Jess, I have Sarahs birth cert. b. 1839, think she was first child. Don't know when Charles and Caroline married, mothers maiden names is (well, looks like) Hunton but I suppose I'm going to need parish records for that. Didn't know about the other children, on FreeBMD Matilda married in 1868 but I can't find any of them on the 1881 LDS, the whole family seems to have disappeared and Matilda doesn't 'show up' under the two male names on same marriage page. Would be nice to know if the parents died in between. Thanks Michaela

Evening Jess. I was going to check this out at the Record Office next week but I bet you can do it quicker!! Would you be an angel and check my brickwall of James Robinson born 1854 Portsea Portsmouth and family on the 1891 Census. You were able to find them on the 1901 but I still can't work him out. Does he appear or his wife Maria born 1859 in Brighton Sussex. Thanks.

Jan, you want this tribe taking back,Yes? 1901 Charles Robinson abt 1896 Southsea, Hampshire, England Son Portsmouth Hampshire Edward Robinson abt 1894 Southsea, Hampshire, England Son Portsmouth Hampshire Ellen Robinson abt 1898 Southsea, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsmouth Hampshire James Robinson abt 1854 Portsea, Hampshire, England Head Portsmouth Hampshire James Robinson abt 1892 Southsea, Hampshire, England Son Portsmouth Hampshire Maria Robinson abt 1859 Brighton, Sussex, England Wife Portsmouth Hampshire Minnie Robinson abt 1890 Southsea, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsmouth Hampshire ------------------------------------------------------ hang on then, 1891 Robinson, James abt 1855 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Head Portsea Hampshire Robinson, Maria abt 1855 Brighton, Sussex, England Wife Portsea Hampshire Robinson, Minnie abt 1890 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsea Hampshire address 8 Goodwood Place Occupation: Ships stoker or Storer RN- which i assume to mean royal navy -------------------------------------------------------- Minnies birth reg I would imagine; for maria's maiden name : Robinson, Minnie Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1890 District: Portsea Island County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 5[14]4 (click to see others on page)

Yes please Jess. I looked and couldn't see him but then they keep changing their birth dates. James was christened 12th Dec 1852 in Portsea. On the 1901 he declared himself born 1854 and on the 1891 he is born 1855. Maria declared on 1901 to be born 1859 and then in 1891 is suddenly born 1855. This family is doing my head in!!

bumped for Jan

Catherine is this the right Martha (with her family)in 1881 Ann Johnson abt 1836 Long Benton, Northumberland, England Wife Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England George W. Johnson abt 1867 Long Benton, Northumberland, England Son Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England J. A. Johnson abt 1878 Long Benton, Northumberland, England Son Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England Joanna Johnson abt 1876 Long Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England John Johnson abt 1871 Long Benton, Northumberland, England Son Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England Martha Johnson abt 1857 Long Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England Mary A. Johnson abt 1869 Long Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England Mary J. Johnson abt 1873 Long Benton, Northumberland, England Daughter Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England Ralph Johnson abt 1861 Long Benton, Northumberland, England Son Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England William Johnson abt 1840 Scotland Head Choppington New Colliery, Bedlington, Northumberland, England