Genealogy Chat

Dot 1901 - the best yet. bear in mind all th erelationships are to the head of the household Daisy Knill abt 1893 Swansea Niece Wellington Somerset Mary Ann Knill abt 1853 Alderney, Channel Islands Sister Wellington Somerset Elizabeth Newick abt 1829 Ash Priors, Somerset, England Mother Wellington Somerset Luke Wyatt abt 1891 Wellington, Somerset, England Son Wellington Somerset Mack Wyatt abt 1886 Wellington, Somerset, England Son Wellington Somerset Mary A Wyatt abt 1889 Wellington, Somerset, England Daughter Wellington Somerset May Wyatt abt 1893 Wellington, Somerset, England Daughter Wellington Somerset Sarah Jane Wyatt abt 1852 Guernsey, Channel Islands Head Wellington Somerset <-- so SARAH IS THE HEAD ------------------------------------------------------ I would assume that sarah married a Mr Wyatt mary Ann Married a MR Knill- (although she is Sarah's sister) The sad thing is Mary Ann Knill, Sarah Jane Wyatt and Elizabeth Newick are all recorded as Widows, They are all living together at Tone Hill, Wellington , Somerset

Hi Jess Its me AGAIN lol Have just found out that Sarah Evans b;1844 Audlem her mothers name was Sarah, her father was definately John a Shoemaker, The census's you gave me have a wife named Mary so I dont think he is the right one after all. :~( AAgghhhhhh Sorry Can you check on 1861 / 1871 and see if you can find John Evans with wife Sarah. I would think both born about 1820's ???? Many thanxs again Lesley :~)

Jess many thanks for all of that (I think lol) I knew I had a task on my hands with this side of the family but blimey I didnt reckon on this. Newicks liked their women if you catch my drift and its still in the genes today lol. Dot

Hi Jess, Could you lookup Grace family on the 1861 census please. Sarah b. 30 December 1839 (so abt. 12) Haggerston(e) Shoreditch Father Charles Mother Caroline On Sarah's birth cert he is discribed as a labourer. will be in the Bethnal Green/Shoreditch/Hackeny area of Middx. Many thanks Michaela

Hello Jess Sorry, I clicked the wrong button and contacted you direct but here I am again asking for your help if possible. Will be v grateful if u wud look for GEORGE PEEK (sometimes spelled Peake) on 1861 and 1871 census. He was born 1853/1854 Charlton Kent (Greenwich area). His father was Samuel. George appears on 1881 census married and living in Lewisham (Greenwich) so it seems he was always in that area. I particularly want his mother's name and to know if he had any siblings. Also SARAH JANE ROSS on 1891 census. She was born 31.5.1860 Portsea/Portsmouth. She's on 1881 census working as a domestic for elderly couple in Brighton then I lose her. Have not found a marriage and am stuck. Tku again Christine

Hi Jess Thanks for the offer. Could you look up Emily Skeats in the 1901 Census please? She was born in about 1887 and her father was Caleb Skeats, a policeman. They lived in London, somewhere, although I'm not sure where. Thanks Tracey

Michaela- your ages dont add up for sarah! without an idea where her parents were born there are too many choices for them.Any ideas please. might be: Caroline Grace abt 1817 Hackney, Middlesex, England Wife Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex Charles Grace abt 1816 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex Charles Grace abt 1845 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex James Grace abt 1857 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex John Grace abt 1848 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex John Grace abt 1852 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex Matilda Grace abt 1849 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex address Household 76 (might be , poor image ) Newson St

Ancestry returns these for my criteria 1885 +/- 5 years County = Durham Hedley, James 1889 September Marriages Gateshead Co. Durham Tyne and Wear> Married a SMITH HEDLEY, James Evans 1883 March Marriages South Shields Co. Durham Tyne and Wear > married RAMSEYor SOFTLEY Hedley, James Forster 1881 September Marriages Chester le Street Co. Durham >married CLARKE or BROTTEN HEDLEY, John James 1883 March Marriages Gateshead Co. Durham Tyne and Wear >married ROBERTS OR (1 missing) Hedley, Walter James 1890 March Marriages Morpeth Co. Durham Northumberland > married CODLING or (1 missing)

Christine, can find a possible George in 1861 but not realy worth posting as i cant be sure it is him - his father is absent. and he is only born 'kent' Sarah Jane , again, will probably have married by 1891 and so you really need to find out a little more about her and where she went if you can. I know ,its a bit chicken and egg!!

Tracy. Caleb here is a police man (and a coal merchant) The image looks more like sKeats to me Benjamin Backall abt 1879 Greenstead, Surrey, England Boarder Southgate Middlesex Frederick Marshman abt 1877 Westbury, Wiltshire, England Boarder Southgate Middlesex Annie Sheats abt 1892 Southgate, Middlesex, England Daughter Southgate Middlesex Arthur Sheats abt 1879 Southgate, Middlesex, England Son Southgate Middlesex Caleb Sheats abt 1850 Andover, Hampshire, England Head Southgate Middlesex Emily Sheats abt 1854 Brixton, Surrey, England Wife Southgate Middlesex The address looks like Voakes' Ark(?) Chelmsford Rd. was it Emily you were specially interested in?

Thanks Jess. I'm more interested in Emily's family, as I know nothing about them and am hoping to find out more. Emily is my great grandmother and I'm hoping to use the census to go back further, as she is as far as I have got. I have Emily's marriage certificate, which gives her father's name and occupation, but nothing else about him. According to her marriage certificate, Emily was 22, when she got married, in 1909, so I don't think that is the same Emily. I could not read the occupation very well, for Caleb, but it said something C.I.D Metropolitan Police, so I assume he was a policeman and they lived in London. Although my mother is pretty sure he was a fireman...

Tracy. i think the faimly i have found, despite the Emily you want not being there, is probably Emilys family (poss named after her mother?) the combination of Caleb, Policeman, In London AND the surname would be enough for me- unlikely that i would find another one. Have you traced her birth? ( i will have a look) possibles Name: SKEATS, Emily Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1886 District: Edmonton County: Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 374 (click to see others on page This will tell you both parents name. If you send for it to the gro ask for checking point CALEB fathers name.

Thanks Jess. No I haven't traced her birth yet. I was hoping that if I could find her in the census, it would give me her place of birth, which would help :-(. Thanks. I'll send off for that one, and see if it is the same Emily. Could you see if you can find Caleb and Emily (husband and wife) on the 1891 census please? Thanks very much for your help.

Hi Jess I have more info RE: Charles Evans that you searched for. On 1851 census living Newhall lane.. Newhall cheshire Head: Charles b:1817 Newhall.... Ag lab Wife: Sarah b:1818 Doddcott cheshire Daugh:Harriett b:1840 Woodhouses Salop And Son James b:1847 Newhall who had left in 1861. Can you please check 1861/1871 for them please? Also can you look for their marriage if you have time? Many thanxs lesley :~)

Hi Jess You were right about them being SKeats and not SHeats. I've jsut found this on the 1881 census: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Caleb SKEATS Head M Male 31 Andover, Hampshire, England Police Constable Emily SKEATS Wife M Female 26 St Georges, Surrey, England Arthur SKEATS Son Male 2 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Ellen SKEATS Daur Female 5 m Edmonton, Middlesex, England Thomas MASH Boarder U Male 25 Coleford, Gloucester, England Police Constable -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling The Chase 13 Springfield Cott Census Place Edmonton, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341338 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1390 / 112 Page Number 38

Tracy - I guess it is easy to read a K as an H 1891 for you-LOOK WHO IS THERE! EMILY!! Sheats, Caleb abt 1850 Andover, Hampshire, England Head Edmonton Middlesex Sheats, Caleb abt 1882 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Son Edmonton Middlesex Sheats, Ellen abt 1881 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Daughter Edmonton Middlesex Sheats, Emily abt 1853 Southwark, London, England Wife Edmonton Middlesex Sheats, Emily abt 1887 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Daughter Edmonton Middlesex Sheats, Lucy abt 1882 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Daughter Edmonton Middlesex still in Chelms ford rd caleb is a police constable

Lesley- the 1861 isn't much help. will try 1871 John Beech abt 1797 Burley Dam, Cheshire, England Head Newhall Cheshire Sarah Evans abt 1818 Cheshire, England Servant Newhall Cheshire She is a widow/housekeeper

Thanks Jess. I guess he left home at a very young age. She would have been 14 in 1901. Thanks for all your help. Tracey

Tracy- 14 wasn't young to have left home in 1901 - she was probably in service somewhere, and may have been so or some time.The problem is, (with the name being so easily mis-spelled or read) and that her employer may have just said London as her birth place and she could be any one of pages and pages of Emilys born that year' will have a look for her, wouldn't hold out much hope Do you know where she got married?YES YOU ALREADY TOLD ME!! this looks promising.. HOWITT, Charles William 1909 March Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex KEENE, Arthur Albert 1909 March Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex PAVITT, Alice Kate 1909 March Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex ->>SKEATS, Emily 1909 March Marriages Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex

Thanxs Jess Appreciate you looking Again Lesley :~)