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Jan 1871 William Hawton abt 1829 Cattdown, Devon, England Son-in-law St Andrew Devon Ann May abt 1810 Cheddar, Somalia Wife St Andrew Devon <--( classic mistranscription!)<-- William May abt 1806 Plymouth, Devon, England Head St Andrew Devon address faxmont(?) st 1861 George Hancock abt 1840 Bideford, Devon, England Lodger Stoke Damerel Devon William Harvey abt 1841 Llannelly, Wales Lodger Stoke Damerel Devon William E Hawton abt 1830 Catdown, Devon, England Head Stoke Damerel Devon Ann May abt 1808 Cheddern, Somerset, England Mother Stoke Damerel Devon William May abt 1808 St Andrews, Devon, England Father-in-law Stoke Damerel Devon George Stokes abt 1843 Topsham, Devon, England Lodger Stoke Damerel Devon

Evening Jess. Still after the May family I'm afraid. There are so many of them. Would you look me up on the 1861 and 1871 Census. William May born 1807 Stoke Damerell Devon, a Stonemason. He would be 54 on the 1861 and 64 on the 1871. His wife was Ann born around the same time. They should still be in Plymouth area. Any details would be appreciated as always. Thanks. Jan

Jess the names of the children look Ok. Mary A Moran and Thomas Moran did have an older brother called Michael who later married Rose Ann Rowley. My late father believed the Morans original came to leeds from Ireland. But it could have been the generation befor Mathew Moran was born. Thank you for the new lead, regards, Christopher

possibly, but birthplaces are well off 1881 John Grayley abt 1846 Mayo Co, Ireland Lodger 3 Stone Ct, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Mary Moran abt 1857 Astaff, Lincoln, England Wife 3 Stone Ct, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Mary A. Moran abt 1881 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Daughter 3 Stone Ct, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Matthew Moran abt 1856 Astaff, Lincoln, England Head 3 Stone Ct, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Michael Moran abt 1879 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Son 3 Stone Ct, Leeds, Yorkshire, England image deff says Lincolnshire. very clear, although they are in Leeds, which kind of reinforces my theory that it is the right family

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you Jess. Mathew and Mary were both born in Leeds and they married in Leeds at Mount St Marys Church. Hope this helps, regards Christopher

Christopher, this must be the 1901 that you want investigating For ref- Edward Clark abt 1870 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Visitor Leeds Yorkshire Honor Coleman abt 1831 Ireland Head Leeds Yorkshire Thomas Donnley abt 1841 Ireland Boarder Leeds Yorkshire John Keene abt 1846 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Boarder Leeds Yorkshire Thomas Mnion abt 1855 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Boarder Leeds Yorkshire Mary A Moran abt 1881 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Leeds Yorkshire Thomas Moran abt 1883 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Grandson Leeds Yorkshire George B Scholer abt 1877 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Visitor Leeds Yorkshire ----------------------------------------------- will look for Honor in 1891 * where were matthew and Mary Born please? Where did they marry?

Jess would you please have a look through 1861 to 1891 to try find some history regarding Honor Coleman and her family? In the 1901 Census she was living at 8 lower Cross Street, Leeds. Honor was listed, as been 70 years old. On the 1901 Census she had two grandchildren living with her. Mary A Moran aged 20 and Thomas aged 18 years old. Their parents were Mathew Moran and Mary Coleman who married in 1877 but I do not have any history from when they married to why they are not with there children in 1901. Any information on Mathew and Mary would also be appreciated. Thanking you for any help you may offer. Kind regards, Christopher

Maggie, i wonder, did Harriet re-marry by 1901? 1901 Harriet Cotton abt 1842 Lifton, Shropshire, England Wife Pontefract Yorkshire Issac Cotton abt 1846 Salisbury, Shropshire, England Head Pontefract Yorkshire Elizth Perry abt 1892 Rotherham, Yorkshire, England Daughter Pontefract Yorkshire George Perry abt 1872 Eckington, Derbyshire, England Son Pontefract Yorkshire Hannah Perry abt 1885 Eckington, Derbyshire, England Daughter Pontefract Yorkshire Richard Perry abt 1876 Eckington, Derbyshire, England Son Pontefract Yorkshire Thomas Perry abt 1883 Eckington, Derbyshire, England Son Pontefract Yorkshire Guess a marriage of Harriet Perry to said Issac Cotton would confirm.Will look. Bonanza!! Cotton, Isaac 1896 September Marriages Pontefract West Riding of Yorkshire West Yorkshire Perry, Harriet 1896 September Marriages Pontefract West Riding of Yorkshire West Yorkshire **cant fit in a Minnie or a Nancy though?

Maggie I love yours, they are always interesting!! ok, well have uncovered this lot in 1891 Perry, George abt 1870 Eckington, Yorkshire, England Lodger Kimberworth Yorkshire address 39 Midland road. guess who is at 38 Midland Rd? Bond, Ellen abt 1879 Kimberworth, Yorkshire, England Daughter Kimberworth Yorkshire Bond, Harriet abt 1873 Kimberworth, Yorkshire, England Daughter Kimberworth Yorkshire Bond, John abt 1845 Suffolk, England Head Kimberworth Yorkshire Bond, John abt 1884 Masbrough, Yorkshire, England Son Kimberworth Yorkshire Bond, Sarah Ann abt 1844 Church; Anston, Yorkshire, England Wife Kimberworth Yorkshire Bond, Sarah Ann abt 1876 Kimberworth, Yorkshire, England Daughter Kimberworth Yorkshire ------------------------------------------------------------ Bearing in mind the birth the next year i guess they married soon after this census. in the sept..see below ------------------------------------------------------------- Bond, Harriet 1891 September Marriages Rotherham Derbyshire South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire Perry, George 1891 September Marriages Rotherham Derbyshire South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire ------------------------------------------------------------------ wondering if they were still together in 1901. looking now

Jess, Big sloppy apology from me, before we could get to grips with my very obscure look up requests my server goes off line. So I cannot even discuss. Now 2 hours on its back. I've had a beer or three, so if you will forgive me I will message a'morrow!! x Bob c

HI JESS, I AM STUCK ON MY HUSBAND TREE, THIS IS ALL I KNOW,GRANDMOTHER ELIZABETH PERRY BORN 13/1/1892 AT 32, MIDLAND RD KIMBERWORTH ROTHERHAM.HER PARENTS ARE GEORGE PERRY AND HARRIET BOND.THIS IS WERE I AM STUCK ONE OR BOTH OF THE PARENTS CAME FROM DURHAM,AND AFTER SPLITTING UP ONE OF THEM RETURN BACK TO DURHAM TAKING SOME OF THEIR CHILDREN,I KNOW ELIZABETH STAYED IN KIMBERWORTH, IT WAS MENTION THERE MAY OF BEEN SISTER,S OF THE NAMES OF MINNIE AND NANCY.ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED,I KNOW YOU HELP ME BEFORE AND I MUST THANK YOU AGAIN LOVE MAGGIE

Gillian, do you have either their birth places /or the 1881 ref No's for reference please

You'll need to trace their marriage to find out which one was his father Sarn Henry Burton abt 1844 Canterbury, Kent, England Head Westgate Without Kent John Robert Burton abt 1845 Canterbury, Kent, England Head Westgate Without Kent William Burton abt 1842 Upper Hardres, Kent, England Head Westgate Without Kent ------------------------------------------------------------ if she was from there too these are probably her parents/ or maybe her grandparents Emmie Tappenden abt 1880 Canterbury, Kent, England Daughter Westgate Without Kent James Tappenden abt 1863 Canterbury, Kent, England Head Westgate Without Kent Larie Tappenden abt 1860 Sheerness, Kent, England Wife Westgate Without

1861. for good measure oh well, what the heck! Aaron Cooke abt 1846 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son Leicester St Margaret Leicestershire Arthur Cooke abt 1858 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Son Leicester St Margaret Leicestershire Betsy Cooke abt 1854 Caldcote, Rutland, England Daughter Leicester St Margaret Leicestershire David Cooke abt 1849 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son Leicester St Margaret Leicestershire Eleanor Cooke abt 1820 Lea, Derbyshire, England Wife Leicester St Margaret Leicestershire Thomas Cooke abt 1824 Loughborough, Leicestershire, England Head Leicester St Margaret Leicestershire Thomas Cooke abt 1846 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son Leicester St Margaret Leicestershire ----------------------------------------------------------- My brain has ceased to function. I cant find either of them at those address in 1871

Jess you gave me this in 12/03/05 1871 Census Aaron Cooke 24 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Arthur Cooke 12 Leicestershire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Davd Cooke 21 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Elenor Cooke 51 Lea Wife St Margaret Leicestershire Robert Cooke 9 Leicestershire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Thomas Cooke 48 Loughborough, Leicestershire, England Head St Margaret Leicestershire Thomas Cooke 24 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Elizabeth Spencer 33 Leicestershire, England Servant St Margaret Leicestershire Source information: RG10/3269 Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 50 Page: 13 Household schedule number: 52 and again differently Added by jess on 27/03/2005 20:47:03 Robert for me, for a min 1871 Aaron Cooke 24 Matlock, - omnibus driver Arthur Cooke 12 Leicestershire, - scholar Davd Cooke 21 Matlock, - stnemason Eleanor Cooke 51 Lea Wife St Margaret Leicestershire Robert Cooke 9 - Thomas Cooke 48 Loughborough, - omnibus proprieter Thomas Cooke 24 Matlock, - omnibus driver (the address is 64 Granby Street) I can give the d.o.b for the young Thomas at number 70 Rutland Street as 1846 (he can only be the other half of the twins if he had been married and it was a wife C.Cooke who was present at and informant for the death certificate and then named William c 1818(another Cab Prop) incorrectly as his father. I can only hope that they were born Leicestershire Because of the proximity of the addresses and the Hackney Cab connection I am hoping that these families are connected. I am actually processing/eliminating every Thomas who begat a Thomas in the County apprx 1820 +- 5yrs x Bob

cLAIRE the 1881 that you want taking both ways Albert Humphrey abt 1875 Ridgwell, Essex, England Son Hall Lane, Ridgwell, Essex, England Emily Humphrey abt 1879 Ridgwell, Essex, England Daughter Hall Lane, Ridgwell, Essex, England George W. Humphrey abt 1855 Ridgwell, Essex, England Head Hall Lane, Ridgwell, Essex, England Susan Humphrey abt 1856 Ridgwell, Essex, England Wife Hall Lane, Ridgwell, Essex, England William Humphrey abt 1877 Ridgwell, Essex, England Son Hall Lane, Ridgwell, Essex, England -------------------------------------------------------------- 1891 Humphery, Albert abt 1875 Ridgewell, Essex, England Son Ridgewell Essex Humphery, Annie abt 1882 Ridgewell, Essex, England Daughter Ridgewell Essex Humphery, Elizabeth abt 1888 Ridgewell, Essex, England Daughter Ridgewell Essex Humphery, Emily abt 1879 Ridgewell, Essex, England Daughter Ridgewell Essex Humphery, George abt 1855 Tilbury, Essex, England Head Ridgewell Essex Humphery, Kate abt 1891 Ridgewell, Essex, England Daughter Ridgewell Essex Humphery, Maude abt 1886 Ridgewell, Essex, England Daughter Ridgewell Essex Humphery, Susan abt 1855 Tilbury, Essex, England Wife Ridgewell Essex Humphery, William abt 1877 Ridgewell, Essex, England Son Ridgewell Essex --------------------------------------------------------------- 1874 - they married Quarter: June Year: 1874 District: Halstead County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 507 (click to see others on page) --------------------------------------------------------------- Neither are obvious in 1871. their marrige cert will give you both fathers names.

jess, I'll be back when I have composed a logical reply! x Bob

Lynn Charles Lee abt 1827 Sudborough, Northamptonshire, England Son Sudborough Northamptonshire Charles W Lee abt 1851 Sudborough, Northamptonshire, England Grandson Sudborough Northamptonshire Owen Lee abt 1801 Sudborough, Northamptonshire, England Head Sudborough Northamptonshire Rebecca Lee abt 1797 Brigstock, Northamptonshire, England Wife Sudborough Northamptonshire

Bob, its so long ago, what were the birth places and what part of leicester for that family? Year of birth for them both please Bob, sorry not having a good few days - struggling a bit here. Leave that one with me for a while please

Hi Jess Me again!! You found a William Humphrey born 1877c for me the other day on the 1881 census. living with his father George born 1855c his mother Susan (nee Bush) born 1856c his brother Albert born 1875c and his sister Emily born 1879c. I was wondering if you could check a few things for me and if they confirm something that i am pretty certain they will i would have found a connection with this side of my family which will be so good i will finally be able to learn more about that side. I need to know parents and siblings if you can of both George and Susan. Also if you can do an 1891 lookup on them all to see if William had another four siblings by then that would be great. I have my fingers crossed hoping you find something promising. It was all in the Ridgewell Essex area Thankyou so much for looking xx Hi Jess just seen you can also check deaths i dont know if you can but from a death lookup can you find out any info on their relatives?? Husbands name etc or would i have to get the cerificate for that not sure sorry!!!! Just in case i will give you the details tits an Eliza (possibly full name was Elizabeth) Hazelden died aged 40 on 18th March 1896 in Kent i believe Sevenoaks!! My Great aunt recently found a card from the flowers from her funeral in her grandmothers photo album. We are researching the Hazeldens but havent come across an Eliza yet so wondering whether she married one of the children or something!! If you cant help with this dont worry at all you are such a great help with everything anyway!!! xx