Genealogy Chat

Jess, are you about? Bob

Thank you Jess, another building block Derek

Judith , this is possibly your Mark- 1891 Ritchison, Mark abt 1870 Crook, Durham, England Lodger Pittington Durham He seems to be with a family of Gibsons thus Gibson, Elizabeth Jane abt 1872 Rainton Gate, Durham, England Daughter Pittington Durham Gibson, Ellanor abt 1880 Houghton, Durham, England Daughter Pittington Durham Gibson, Ellen Jane abt 1840 Down, Ireland Wife Pittington Durham Gibson, George Robinson abt 1885 Low Kell, Durham, England Son Pittington Durham Gibson, James abt 1868 West Rainton, Durham, England Son Pittington Durham Gibson, John abt 1838 Down, Ireland Head Pittington Durham Gibson, John abt 1870 Sherburn Hill, Durham, England Son Pittington Durham

Hello Jess, sorry I didn't get back to you last night. I have Susan (Thorn) on the 1881 census, she was widowed in 1867 and remarried a Job Moon, living at Dunkerton. Her birthplace is given as Faulkland/Falkland, Somerset andthe family are living at Dunkerton, Somerset (Bath area). Although I am looking for Susan and details of the family, I really would like to find out where her husband James was born - haven't been able to find him on either the 1841 or 1851 and he died before the 1871! Any help at all is appreciated. Regards Barbara

Hello Jess, Remember I asked you the “awkward “ who may or may not be at 70 Rutland Street Leicester 1871. On Beverleys Leicester thread last night Mike was doing old address call ups for the town. So I put in. This is what he sent back ......................................... 1870's :- Kelly's Trade Directory ..... The Three Crowns Mews. 70, Rutland Street. Leicester. Proprietor George Cooke. Coach Carriage & Hearse Hire Service...... Black Horses with Plumes to match..... Posting's conducted with care.... ........................................................ Does this help for a census look or muddy things even more? For me it reinforces my LDS research/eliminations. In and out of the boards tonight. x Bob

Barbara, well, unless she is using nae other than susan , she isn't in Dunkerton in 1861, there are only three and none are anything like Thorn/e

Judith , cant find her , with that birth year anyway sorry jess

Bob, we've had this lot Granby St, the omnibus proprieter Aaron Cooke abt 1847 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Arthur Cooke abt 1859 Leicestershire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Davd Cooke abt 1850 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Elenor Cooke abt 1820 Lea Wife St Margaret Leicestershire Robert Cooke abt 1862 Leicestershire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Thomas Cooke abt 1823 Loughborough, Leicestershire, England Head St Margaret Leicestershire Thomas Cooke abt 1847 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Elizabeth Spencer abt 1838 Leicestershire, England Servant St Margaret Leicestershire ------------------------------------------------------------------- Right, lets go for it all 1871 All George Cooke, all resident Leicestershire 1George Cooke abt 1806 Thurcaston, Leicestershire, England Head Anstey Leicestershire 2George Cooke abt 1811 Walcote, Leicestershire, England Head Cotesbach Leicestershire 3George Cooke abt 1819 Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Head Loughborough Leicestershire 4George Cooke abt 1841 Loughborough, Leicestershire, England Head Loughborough Leicestershire 5George Cooke abt 1821 Sileby, Leicestershire, England Head Sileby Leicestershire 6George Cooke abt 1815 Nottingham Head St Margaret Leicestershire 7George Cooke abt 1828 Marylebone, London, England Head St Margaret Leicestershire 8George Cooke abt 1834 Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England Head St Margaret Leicestershire ------------------------------------------------------------------ Been thru them all up to no 6 on that list and he,( or they )are at 70 Rutland st! Jane Allen abt 1855 Burbage, Leicestershire, England Servant St Margaret Leicestershire George Cook abt 1837 Leicester Son St Margaret Leicestershire Edith H Cooke abt 1866 Leicester Daughter St Margaret Leicestershire George Cooke abt 1815 Nottingham Head St Margaret Leicestershire Harriett Cooke abt 1840 Leicester Wife St Margaret Leicestershire Tom O Cooke abt 1840 Leicester Son St Margaret Leicestershire ------------------------------------------- Harriet appears to be the wife of Tom, not George! so what, out od Curiosity now that i have found them, does it resolve/confirm or dispel? (Blimey, Alan has been in 3 hours and i haven't spoken to HIM yet!)

Jess, once again, thank you very much for searching. I suppose Susan and James will remain elusive for a while longer. Take care Kind regards Barbara

Jess, You gave me those some while ago, in fact most of my back, forward and lateral is using them. 1871 is the last time they are group, by 1881 it looks like several bad and other turns have happened. The c1823 dad Thomas is dead 1875, cirossis. I suspect that (1846) Thomas the twin died also small pox 1872, wrong father given on dodgy cert. I have never found David. Aaron the other twin married 1877 a double wedding with sister Betsy spliced the same day. Arthur, I found with mum Eleanor in Plymouth 1891, he'd been widowed with two daughters. Mum died Orsett 1894. Precis, Bob

Bob , have you seen the second half of the message, the tribe at Rutland Street...............

Jess, I'm looking now! Thank you....Thank you. I probably won't get back to you tonight, I will have to at least say hello at sometime to the missus!!! x Bob

Bruce - Julia Annie Cullen abt 1862 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Daughter St Paul Deptford London James Cullen abt 1869 Deptford, Kent, England Son St Paul Deptford London Jas Cullen abt 1841 London, England Head St Paul Deptford London >Julia Cullen abt 1870 Deptford, Kent, England Daughter St Paul Deptford London Mary Cullen abt 1837 Ireland Wife St Paul Deptford London Mary Cullen abt 1864 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Daughter St Paul Deptford London Michael Cullen abt 1860 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Son St Paul Deptford London ------------------------------------------------------ William, 1871 James Dumbleton abt 1867 Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, England Son Hook Norton Oxfordshire Michael Dumbleton abt 1845 Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, England Head Hook Norton Oxfordshire <Widow William Dumbleton abt 1864 Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, England Son Hook Norton Oxfordshire > Possible Deaths for a wife Dumbleton, Jesse 1865 December Deaths Abingdon Berkshire Oxfordshire Dumbleton, Patience 1865 December Deaths Headington Buckinghamshire Oxfordshire Dumbleton, Alice 1866 December Deaths Woodstock Oxfordshire DUMBLETON, Mary 1866 September Deaths Witney Berkshire Gloucestershire Oxfordshire Dumbleton, Jane 1867 March Deaths Banbury Northamptonshire Oxfordshire Warwickshire ** Looks like he remarried soon after DUMBLETON, Michael 1873 March Marriages Banbury Northamptonshire Oxfordshire Warwickshire HANCOX, Hannah 1873 March Marriages Banbury Northamptonshire Oxfordshire Warwickshire ------------------------------------------------------ pamela Henry Crook abt 1831 High Wickham, Buckinghamshire, England Head Greenwich St Alphege Kent Matilda Ann Crook abt 1851 Greenwich, Kent, England Daughter Greenwich St Alphege Kent Pamela Crook abt 1825 Woolwich, Kent, England Wife Greenwich St Alphege Kent Rebecca Crook abt 1859 Greenwich, Kent, England Daughter Greenwich St Alphege Kent (loads of Platts in the same household!)

hello Alan, It seems that my ol'man an' your missus have got somethin' goin' on. I won't talk until we have bought a place in Leicester! Unfortunately there was lots happening in 1871 three Crowns mews pub, loads of punch ups etc etc....... prob his cousins, new info, can't prove a thing I'm used to it, or was younger. Speak later, will send guinesss, x chris

Yes Chris, We've got a whole lot of Cooke-ing going on! Jess x

Jess, Pub crew surely must be brother and cousins. I’m going to fly with this until I crash and burn! I searched LDS for Nottingham born George, came up with very bad dates, did the same for Leicester and got this 1815 boy born Sapcote, 3 miles from Peckleton with same parents as my group. Birthdate is slight advance on Marriage but so what....I’ve read bigger mistakes written/transcribed. THOMAS COOKE - International Genealogical Index / BI Marriage: 03 AUG 1815 Peckleton, Leicester, England Spouse: REBECCA BARSBY Family Marriage: 03 AUG 1815 Peckleton, Leicester, England GEORGE COOK Birth: Christening: 22 APR 1815 Sapcote, Leicester, England WILLIAM COOK Birth: 20 MAY 1816 Christening: 21 DEC 1818 All Saints Bond Street-Independent, Leicester, Leicester, England MARY COOK Birth: 30 NOV 1817 Christening: 21 DEC 1818 All Saints Bond Street-Independent, Leicester, Leicester, England THOMAS COOKE Birth: 05 JUN 1820 Christening: 03 JUN 1822 All Saints Bond Street-Independent, Leicester, Leicester, England As a rider, I believe the Nottingham bit comes from next generation back... but “inch by inch its a cinch, yard by yard its very hard” so I’ll save that for later. I do hope that others scan your thread, i.e, Victor, Mike et al. It would be good that every one sees the (proposed)results that you especially have helped me attain. Monday I visited the Local LDS and ordered films to search this group and marriage. x Bob PS I've only taken a couple of hours out this a.m. to message. It was in my head all night, I think I broke my brain! of to site now.

Hi Jess could you please try & find the marriage of a Harold Bernard Cotton b c1886 Dewsbury,Yorks to a Annie Yates b c1888 Sheffield ,Yorks i believe they had there first child c1909 in Barnsley if that'll help with marriage location also have his father as William H Cotton - coal miner hewer her father possibly James yates brewers labourer kind regards Martin Ryan

Martin, have found a possible in 1909 but not to the bride that you mention, so probably wrong. It a bit too late for ancestry, you have to try 1837 on line Jess

ok Jess thanks for looking anyway regards Martin

Hi there, I've never tried the tips pages before today, and so didn't know that people could be so helpful to those others with this mad addiction to finding where we came from! If it's not too much trouble, please can you help me too :-) I trying to track Henry William Pannell born in the parish of Alverstoke, Gosport, Hants in 1868-ish. I don't know anything about his siblings or parents. However, I do know that by 1894 he had married Alice Sparshott and in 1895 they had their first son Arthur Henry Charles, still in Alverstoke. I also searching for the parents of Beatrice Julia Hood, born in March 1895, but I don't know where. She had two sisters, Lilian and Winifred, and by 1916 she had moved to Alverstoke, Gosport and married Arthur Henry Charles Pannell. Any help at all would be much appreciated. Thanks Heidi