Genealogy Chat

Thank you so much Susan for the Davy family look ups - brilliant. Pat.

Hello Sarn I think this is them, would suggest you start of with the birth certificate to confirm the parents. This is the only Charles William Burton in Kent I can find being born in Kent in circa 1904, so hopfully it is the right one. Kind regards Sue Charles William Burton Birth Q3 1904 District of Canterbury Vol 2a Page 966 George Archibald W Burton Birth Q4 1902 District of Canterbury Vol 2a Page 894 George Henry Burton & Susan Dicks Marriage Q4 1901 District of Canterbury Vol 2a Page 1860

Here you go Sandra Sarah Onions marrying a William Baker Q2 1847 West Bromwich Vol 18 Page 737 Regards Sue

Here you go Sandra, think this is them. I havent been able to find any of them on the 1881 census, as for them moving around a lot, now you have your answer, they are living in caravans. Kind regards Sue 1901 Census RG13/4319 Folio 176 Page 57 N.N. Van, New Market Place, Wombwell, Yorkshire (District of Barnsley) George W Dawson, Head, Married, 48, General Dealer (Shop), b. Leeds, Yorkshire Susan, Wife, b. Manchester, Lancashire Mary E, Daughter, Single, 21, Mothers Help, b. Middleton, Yorkshire Harriet, Daughter, Single, 19, b. Wakefield, Yorkshire William, Son, 16, Glassbottle Blower, b. Selby, Yorkshire Charles, Son, 13, b. Castleford, Yorkshire George, Son, 7, b. Cudworth, Yorkshire (*) Please note that the 3 boys are shown living in a separate property but have the same address, and run on through the family, but do not know what N.N stands for. 1891 Census RG12/3764 Folio 44 Page 1 Caravan of Carlton Street, Castleford, Yorkshire (District of Pontefract) George William Dawson, Head, Married, 34, Travelling Hawker, b. Hunslet, Yorkshire Louisa, Wife, 36, b. Dewsbury, Yorkshire Mary Lizz, Daughter, 11, b. Middleton, Yorkshire Harriet, Daughter, 8, b. Wakefield, Yorkshire William, Son, 6, b. Selby, Yorkshire Charles, Son, 3, b. Castleford, Yorkshire George, Son, 2, b. Castleford, Yorkshire John William Garforth, Servant, 24, Travelling Hawker, b. Hunslet, Yorkshire Mary Eliza’s birth Q4 1879 District of Hunslet Vol 9b Page 341 George William Dawson marriage to Louisa Shufflebotton Q3 1876 District of Hunslet Vol 9b Page 424 I cant confirm Louisa’s death the only one I can find is below which fits in with where her last child was born, however the age is 0, not sure if this is because age not given or indeed it is actually a child. Lousia Dawson Q2 1897 District of Barnsley Vol 9c Page 121 Believe this to be George’s second marriage George William Dawson marrying Susannah Smith Q3 1898 District of Burnley Vol 8e Page 479

Jody here is info on William Silverstone Will get back to you with the other children of George. Regards Sue 1871 Census RG10/3607 Folio 43 Page 27 Building Lane, ……. Road, Shirland, Derbyshire William Silkstone, Head, Married, 29, Cordwainer, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Wife, Married, 25, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ellen, Daughter, 4, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Elizabeth, Daughter, 2, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire John, Son, 9 months, b. Shirland, Derbyshire 1881 Census RG11/3429 Folio 16 Page 26 New Building Land, Shirland, Derbyshire William Silkstone, Head, Married, 39, Boot Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Wife, Married, 35, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ellen, Daughter, 14, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Elizabeth, Daughter, 12, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire John, Son, 10, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire William, Son, 9, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Fanny, Daughter, 7, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Edwin, Son, 4, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Alfred, Son, 7 months, b. Shirland, Derbyshire 1891 Census RG12/2674 Folio 35 Page 15 22 Baker Street, Hucknall Torkard, Nottinghamshire (District of Basford) James Silkstone, Head, 35, Manager Book Shop, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Sarah, Wife, 43, b. Alfreton, Derbyshire Mary B, Niece, 15, b. Alfreton, Derbyshire William Silkstone, Brother, Married, 49, Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Sister-in-law, Married, 45, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Niece, Scholar, b. Shirland, Derbyshire 1901 Census RG13/3244 Folio 69 Page 31 & 32 Shirland, Derbyshire William Silkstone, Head, Widower, 59, Boot/Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ellen, Daughter, Single, 34, Dressmaker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Elizabeth, Daughter, Single, 32, Dressmaker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire William, Son, Single, 29, Boot/Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Fanny, Daughter, Single, 27, Dressmaker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Edwin, Son, Single, 24, Boot/Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Alfred, Son, Single, 20, Boot/Shoe Maker, b. Shirland, Derbyshire Ruth, Daughter, Single, 17, b. Shirland, Derbyshire

Hi Susan Wonder if you could help find my mother in laws family by coincidence named BARNETT !! I only have William Edmund Barnett Born 13th Feb 1887 in Boston Lincoln. His father was James Barnett. William married a Dorothy May Luffman on 2nd Jan 1917 in Romsey Hants having served in the Navy.They had 6 children. I believe he had a brother also named James possibly younger than him. There may have been other sibling--Flo, Queenie, Lizzie and Fred? Hope you can find anything for me Regards Linda

Linda I have responded to you directly in relation to the William Edmund Barnett Regards Sue

Hi there, I'd be grateful if you could find the time to look for the birth of Henry William Pannell circa 1868 in the parish of Alverstoke in Gosport, Hants. I am also looking for the birth of his father George Pannell circa 1839 in Alverstoke. Lastly George's wife Harriett Maria Hanneford circa 1843 again in Alverstoke. Many thanks Heidi

Hi Susan could you please look on 1891 census for a Joseph Rodgers b c1873 in Sheffield i believe his father is John also an Eliza Kempton b c1857 her husband is George but she may be a widow? kids are Alice, Emma & Ernest they should be living in Sheffield? Kind regards Martin Ryan

Hello Heidi I have found Henry Pannell, but I could not find George Pannell or Harriett, searched one year either side of what you gave me. Anyway here are the results and sorry I cant be of any more help Regards Sue Henry William Pannell Birth Q3 1867 District of Alverstoke Vol 2b Page 504 Only George I could find after searching 1838-1840 George Pannell Birth Q1 1840 District of Petworth (Sussex) Vol 7 Page 406 Whilst looking also found this: Benjamin Pannell Birth Q4 1838 District of Alverstoke Vol 7 Page 7

Susan, Please could you look up my grandfather John James Miller born in 1894, i assume this was Gloucester area but I cannot trace him, his parents names were Elizabeth and William. Many thanks mandy

Martin Here is the 1891 census on Eliza Kempton and family Regards Sue 1891 Census RG12/4099 Folio 146 Page 23 9 Framwellgate, Durham George Kempton, Head, Married, 44, Organ Metal Pipe Maker, b. Isle of Ely, Cambridgeshire Eliza, Wife, Married, 24, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Alice, Daughter, 14, Domestic Servant, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Emma, Daughter, 13, Domestic Servant, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Ernest, Son, 12, learning to be a Carpet Weaver, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Edith, Daughter, 9, Scholar, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Beatrice, Daughter, 8, Scholar, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire Ethel, Daughter, 4, Infant, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire George, Son, 11 months, Infant, b. Sheffield, Yorkshire

Hello Mandy If John James Miller was born in Gloucestershire then this could be his birth entry. However, I cannot find him on the 1901 census. There are plenty of George & Elizabeth Millers in the Gloucestershire area, but none of them have a child called James, do you know any names of his siblings? Regards Sue John J Miller Birth Q3 1894 District of Thornbury County: Gloucestershire Vol 6a Page 212

Many thanks Susan, I'm sure this is my grandad, really strange but I have also checked the 1901 census and can find no trace of him or his family. I know he had a brothers one was called Alfred, that's about all I know. So many questions i wish I asked him before he died.

hi susan i would be really grateful if you could try find some information on the 'humble' family, especially: dorothy, born around 1874 ruth, born around 1892 helena, born ? these are all rough dates that i have tried piecing together from bmd. if you could also find the names of their parents, then that would be brilliant. i am told that dorothy didn't marry, so there is a possibility that she still may be living with her family (if she was born in the year that i have put). i think they were all born in the durham/northumberland area, possibly bishop auckland. any information would be invaluable. thanks pam

Hi Susan Thank youso much for all the info you sent me. Unfortunately at the moment I can't send you a personal reply as the Reply option is missing on messages--It looks like it has happened to a lot of us . I shall now spend time going through all the info you found. It would have been a coincidence if you were family wouldn't it!! Thanks again Regards Linda PS managed to Reply this morning. been busy all day, but said a big thanks once again. Linda

Here you go Pamela Based on what information you have given me, these are the matches I can find - but no Dorothy or Helena as sisters. Anyway I hope it helps Regards Sue HUMBLE, Isabella Jane Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1871 District: Durham (1837-1938) County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 397 Humble, Nicholas Wetherell Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1875 District: Durham (1837-1938) County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 497 HUMBLE, John marrying KIDD, Elizabeth Record Type: Marriages Quarter: September Year: 1869 District: Durham (1837-1938) County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 393 HUMBLE, Nicholas marrying Catherine Kirkup Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1897 District: Auckland County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 242 1901 Census Bishop Auckland, Durham Arthur Sanderson abt 1868 Durham, England Head Bishop Auckland Durham Chris Sanderson abt 1898 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Son Bishop Auckland Durham Emily Sanderson abt 1896 Morley, Durham, England Daughter Bishop Auckland Durham Isabel J Sanderson abt 1872 Willington, Durham, England Wife Bishop Auckland Durham Ruth Sanderson abt 1900 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Daughter Bishop Auckland Durham 1901 Census Bishop Auckland, Durham John Humble abt 1846 Kelloe, Durham, England Head Elizabeth Humble abt 1845 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Wife Ruth Humble abt 1880 Willington, Durham, England Daughter Agnes Siddle abt 1886 Willington, Durham, England Niece 1901 Census Bishop Auckland, Durham Nicholas Humble abt 1876 Willington, Durham, England Head Katherine Humble abt 1880 Evenwood, Durham, England Wife 1891 Census Willington, Durham Humble, John abt 1846 Kelloe, Durham, England Head Humble, Elizabeth abt 1845 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Wife Humble, Isabella abt 1872 Willington, Durham, England Daughter Humble, Nicholas W abt 1876 Willington, Durham, England Son Humble, Ruth abt 1880 Willington, Durham, England Daughter 1881 Census Willington, Durham John Humble abt 1846 Kelloe, Durham, England Head Elizabeth Humble abt 1845 Bp Auckland, Durham, England Wife Isabell J. Humble abt 1872 Willington, Durham, England Daughter Nicholas Humble abt 1876 Willington, Durham, England Son Ruth Humble abt 1880 Willington, Durham, England Daughter 1871 Cenus Willington, Durham John Humble abt 1846 Kelloe, Durham, England Head Elizabeth Humble abt 1845 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Wife Mary I Hardy abt 1868 Bishop Auckland, Durham, England Visitor Name: HUMBLE, Dorothy Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1874 District: Auckland County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 291

Hi Susan Many thanks for your kind offer. I have been trying without success to find any information on a certain Mr Fisher. His wife was Hannah, born c1811 Bottesford Lincs, maiden name Storr and they had a daughter Maria Storr Fisher born c1839 in Ashby Lincs. Any information would be a great help Many thanks Terry on the Rock

Thanks very much for your help. Have been unable to track down Henry until now. Cheers

Hello Could you help with two dead ends please? 1/George J Brockhurst b1877 Amberley Sussex In 1881 living with parents Edward b1852 and Jane c1858. Where was he in after then, if he survived he was the only one of three siblings I have found so far. 2/William brockhurst b1873 Rackham Sussex 1881 living with father Charles b1832 then a widower. His mother Jane c1836? died between 1873 and 1881. Siblings Edith Jane 1871 Rackham Sx James christened North Stoke Sx 1867 Sarah Anne b1863 Bury Sx Thanks very much I appreciate the help. Kathy