Genealogy Chat

Good Afternoon Jess Have just got in from work and read your message from last night. I think what you have said is complety right as i have just looked at the birth cert i recived for my gr grandad Ivor James and it has the date i ordered it on it, so i think he may have mis read the cert as you said. Thankyou for all your kind help. Lyn.

leave request by all means , but am off out for the day. will look , inc yours Derek, later.. Jess x

Dear Jess, A more difficult request. I am looking for WILLIAM LILLY LENDRUM BARCLAY in the 1861 Census. The information I have for him is as follows: He was born in 1849 in Peterhead Aberdeenshire and his father died the following year. I 'got' him in the 1851 Censu livng with his mother in Peterhead. She remarried in 1854 to Peter Allan. My next information about him is in the 1871 Census when he was living as a lodger in Hebburn in Tyneside. He would be ca 11 years old in 1861 but I've no idea where he is. Derek

Name: IRWIN, Angelo Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 48 Quarter: March Year: 1866 District: Stepney County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 386 explains why i cant find Him in 1871 anyway!

Tracy 1861 Angelo Irwin abt 1818 Hammersmith, Middlesex, England Head Stepney Middlesex Angelo J Irwin abt 1847 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Son Stepney Middlesex Benj N Irwin abt 1853 Ratcliff, Middlesex, England Son Stepney Middlesex George Irwin abt 1856 Ratcliff, Middlesex, England Son Stepney Middlesex Mary A Irwin abt 1826 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Wife Stepney Middlesex Mary A Irwin abt 1848 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Daughter Stepney Middlesex Sarah Irwin abt 1850 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Daughter Stepney Middlesex William Irwin abt 1860 Ratcliff, Middlesex, England Son Stepney Middlesex

hi jess, could you possibly look up in the 1861 census for angelo irwin born abt 1818 in hammersmith london? all i know is that he was married to a lady mary ann!! any help would be very much appreciated! kindest regards Tracey.

Lyn- marriage banns are 'read' before the marriage can take place, so it cant be that. Are we confusiong date of registration or date of issue here with the birth cert? Births are not witnessed If i sent for my birth cert today it would have an issue date of probably Monday on it, the day that they copied it and sent it to me

Hi Jess Could it be that they had the bands read 2 years later? Would my nan have got a new birth cert for when she started work? as this is the only reason i can think of. I really think i need to go to bed as all this isn`t making much sence to me at the moment, will look at it all again tomorrow. Would just like to say a ((((REALLY)))) big (((THANKYOU))) Lyn.

Lyn - the dates are 'odd'- the birth cert does suggest one thing (although i'll keep that idea to myself ) until you find out a bit more about them. Do YOU have any ideas as to why a birth should be registered after a space of time? I think, with all due respect that he must be misunderstanding something on the marriage cert, the witnesses sign at the wedding, not days weeks or months later. J..elly erm ..not sure ...guess copy and paste missed the end not me! yes Breadcroft etc

Hi Jess I have just rung him back, the birth cert was for her daughter: Doreen May Mitchell Born 2/6/1931 Father: Percy George Mitchell Mother: Lily Emma Woods Registeredby: Lily Emma Woods living at 217 Lower Woodside Caddington Road. Can you please if possible tell me WHY her birth would of been witnessed on 1/8/1946. Also why a marriage that took place on the 23/7/1949 was witnessed on the 12/11/1951. Cheers Lyn.

Jess I'm busy entering the info you found for me (page 1 of thread) The last one seems chopped off? Is it missing or did you get tired :))) I assume its Breadcroft, Hertfordshire? 1871 Ada Swallow abt 1866 Breadcroft, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Harpenden Hertfordshire Emily Swallow abt 1859 Breadcroft, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Harpenden Hertfordshire George Swallow abt 1861 Breadcroft, Hertfordshire, England Son Harpenden Hertfordshire Henry Swallow abt 1863 Breadcroft, Hertfordshire, England Son Harpenden Hertfordshire Rose Swallow abt 1831 Redbourn, Hertfordshire, England Head Harpenden Hertfordshire Walter Swallow abt 1857 Bre Thanks JElly x

Lyn, ring him again and ask exactly what it says on the birth cert,(who's birth cert is it (her daughters?) childs name date of birth fathers name mothers name who registered the birth It will help us... jess

Hi Jess You saying that i hadn`t heard of that so rung uncle up again, and must say sorry yet again he made a mistake it was her BIRTH cert, and yes it is defernatly LILY Emma Woods, And i have never heard of both mothers being witnesses to the Wedding. Lyn.

Margaret- trying to sort out the mary Pullar groom... James Robinson abt 1841 Prescot, Lancashire, England Head Prescot Lancashire < Wife not mary James Robinson abt 1862 Farnworth, Lancashire, England Head Prescot Lancashire <wife not mary James Robinson abt 1898 Prescot, Lancashire, England Son Prescot Lancashire James Robinson abt 1900 Prescot, Lancashire, England Son Prescot Lancashire still cant find a Lee Wright anywhere , let alone Prescot!

Lyn, I have never yet seen a marriage cert with a mothers name on so i have no idea. Bride, groom, and fathers names and occupations yes, but not brides mothers name.

Hi Jess Do i have to use a credit card? as i do not have one of these. Can you tell me if her name was Lillian why it would have Lily on marriage cert of her daughter. Cheers Lyn.

Lyn, the decision as to if she is the right one, is your entirely,personally I would have considered Lillians too... You need to buy some credits for 1837 on line to trace the marriage - the more you know the less it will cost you! Jes

WOW !!!!! THANKS JESS, THAT'S A LOT OF IFORMATION !!! I'm GOING TO HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH A CUPPA TO SORT THAT LOT OUT. THEY ARE DEFFINATELY MY LOT. YOU ARE AN.....ANGEL xxxx CHEERS,Margaret

Hi Jess Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you but i have just got in from work. Looking at the two names you hav given me, i have just rung the uncle who gave the info and he said it was spelt with one L ( sorry MY mistake) and this was on my nan`s marriage cert, so i think it would be Lily Emma Woods 1903 Dec births, Islington Greater London London Middlesex. Many thanks for all this, can you please tell me where i can look up about their marriage. Lyn.

Jess Thank you for the lookups - will spend the evening getting my head round them! Thank You! JElly