Genealogy Chat

Hi Jess Can i say how very sorry i am, you must think i am an ignorent so and so, I made a request in the early hours of the 17th thinking i was going to have more or less a free day but, plans-mice and men spring to mind, once again i can only apologise. My request was for information from the 1901 census regarding the names of Youlden, Badland and Langdell. In your reply you ask where i sourced the names and dates. These are my grandparents and until i sent for copies of my parents birth certs i didn't know them. My fathers details, John Harold Yolden b19/6/1905 father Albert Edward Yolden mother Barbara Yolden formerly Frier signature of informant X the mark of Barbara Yolden, this at least explained the misspelt surname,Lower Tower street Aston. My mother, Ruby Violetta Badland b31/3/1909 father Francis Joseph Badland mother Ellen Badland formerly Langdell Bath Row Aston. Having read of sites on these boards i found a marriage of Youlden/Frier 1892 and Badland/Langdell 1902 but didn't note down where, i found that tip too late. I hope this info is of some help to you. Bren

any one wanting ? up to date and poised to look! jess

Thank you Jess. Rosi

Rosi you need that marriage cert to find out his fathers name otherwise there are just too many choices in 1901 census ( or BMD for that matter) Jess

Jess Pleeeeeaaasssseeee I cannot find my Grandad.........I have tried bmd but seem to be doing something wrong, (perhaps I havnt enough info is what i am thinking) a fresh pair of eyes could be all I need .... Details I Have: William Henry Symes born 1894 London, Fulham/Chelsea district more likely but not 100% on that (I dont know full dob) Married 10/1/21 to Frances Bridget Lewsley born1898 Married at Fulham Town Hall Died in 1941 Thats really all I have to go on at the moment. I would really appreciate some help from you if you have time Thanks so much Rosi

Vera 1891 for my reference Truman, John G abt 1860 Clapton, London, England Head Hackney London Truman, Mary abt 1860 Rybhy, Norfolk, England Wife Hackney London Truman, Walter G abt 1885 Hackney, London, England Son Hackney London Truman, Catherine R abt 1890 Bromley, London, England Daughter Hackney London Truman, Hilda M abt 1888 Bromley, London, England Daughter Hackney London ** do you know if they had any children after 1892 - i'm struggling to find them ( assuming they remained in London)

Did 61 & 71' 1881 William Cousins abt 1821 Messing, Essex, England Lodger Qhashey Corner, Layer Marney, Essex, England John Harrington abt 1825 Messing, Essex, England Head Qhashey Corner, Layer Marney, Essex, England Naomi Harrington abt 1835 Messing, Essex, England Wife Qhashey Corner, Layer Marney, Essex, England 1891: Harrington, James abt 1876 Messing, Essex, England Nephew Messing Essex Harrington, John abt 1827 Messing, Essex, England Head Messing Essex Harrington, Naomi abt 1833 Messing, Essex, England Wife Messing Essex 1901: Edward Challis abt 1880 Messing, Essex, England Boarder Messing Essex Thomas Green abt 1828 N, Inworth Boarder Messing Essex James Harrington abt 1875 Messing, Essex, England Nephew Messing Essex Naomi Harrington abt 1834 Messing, Essex, England Head Messing Essex <WIDOW William Sash abt 1876 N Boarder Messing Essex

Vera- from where have you sourced the info that you have?

Vera- have cut and pasted to here - easier to work with Cannot find this family in the 1901 Census would really appreciate it if you could find them details as follows John George truman b.1859-Hackney Wife Mary Knell b. 1858 Ryburgh Walsingham Norfolk Walter b.1885 Hilda b.1888 Mabel b.1892 John Geaorge b. 1895 Margery b. 1897 Chrystal b.1899 all in Hackney? have searched and searched just cannot find them.Thanks Vera Shipp

Brennan now i am totally addled!! where are you sourcing your information? because.... Bertha Badland abt 1899 Aston, Warwickshire, England Daughter Aston Manor Warwickshire Ellen Badland abt 1877 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Wife Aston Manor Warwickshire Francis J Badland abt 1866 Penkridge, Staffordshire, England Head Aston Manor Warwickshire Presume this is the marriage of these: BADLAND, Francis Joseph 1885 June Marriages Aston Warwickshire COLBECK, Ellen 1885 June Marriages Aston Warwickshire KING, John 1885 June Marriages Aston Warwickshire Rathbone, Emma 1885 June Marriages Aston Warwickshire but then there is also..... Badland, Francis Joseph 1902 September Marriages Aston Warwickshire Langdell, Ellen 1902 September Marriages Aston Warwickshire Wheelock, William 1902 September Marriages Aston Warwickshire White, Annie Emmeline 1902 September Marriages Aston Warwickshire With a name as unusual as that surely this must be the same man marring twice?

Brennan Not sure what i have found here; Must be their daughter, although i cant find them in 1901 census at the moment Name: Youlden, Barbara Macgear Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1894 District: Kings Norton County: Staffordshire Warwickshire Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 424 will keep trying- can you tell me where either parent were born Please

Jess, You're great! Looks like Thomas is always the eldest sons name. And my gran has mentioned some of the places that these people were born in, saying there were aunties etc in the London area. I think it is his dad too, as they were both in Bromley at the same time having children, maybe his eldest son lived with them for some time. Considering how vague the information I had was, this is brilliant. Will now be checking the certs of course! Thanks again Heidi

Tracy- struggling with a good match for Charles Ward - sorry

Heidi Emma Day abt 1877 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Wife Leyton Essex John Day abt 1899 Bow, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Thomas Day abt 1898 Bromley, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Thomas W Day abt 1876 Poplar, Middlesex, England Head Leyton Essex occupation - showman On the same page here are another family of days- also head showman.Possibly his father? David A Day abt 1886 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Esther Day abt 1853 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Wife Leyton Essex George H Day abt 1882 Poplar, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Henry Day abt 1891 Plaistow, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex John Day abt 1896 Bromley, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Martha E Day abt 1889 Hackney, Middlesex, England Daughter Leyton Essex Myra E Day abt 1879 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter Leyton Essex Thomas W Day abt 1851 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Head Leyton Essex 'SHOWMAN and exhib'

Catherine 1871 John Harrington abt 1829 Messing, Essex, England Head Messing Essex Naomi Harrington abt 1835 Messing, Essex, England Wife Messing Essex will try for 1861- naomi is alone Naomi Harrington abt 1835 Messing, Essex, England Head Great Wigborough Essex in occupation column she is an AG LABS wife...wonder where he was ag lab-ing?

Hi Jess sorry i dont know what happened then, it just went before i had finished. The next two didn't marry until the Sept Qtr of 1902 in Aston but i am hoping that if you can find them in the 1901 census that they are both living with their respective parents. Francis Joseph Badland, born c1877 Ellen Langdell born c1881 I hope that this information is enough to let you be able search. Once again thank you. Bren

Hi Jess First i would like to thank you for your offer, your time and your effort. Could you look in the 1901 census in the distrct of Aston (B,ham) Warwickshire for Albert Edward Youlden born c1867 and his wife Barbara Macgear Youlden nee Frier born c1871 They married in the Dec Qtr of 1892 in the above district. I would like to know where they wher living and of any children. The next two didn't marry until the Sept Qtr of 1902

Hi Jess, this is excellent, thanks very much, my dad will be thrilled to hear more names!! could i be really cheeky and ask you to look for a charles ward middle name kimpton (might narrow it down abit) born 1841, finsbury, london, his father's name kimpton, he was born 1818 in hertford, but living in london. any help will be great but if not then thankyou for the try it's not such a great name to work with!! Kindest Regards Tracey

Hi Jess,PRESCOT IS A REGISTRATION DISTRICT THAT COVERS ST HELENS,WINDLE,SUTTON AND ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS. MARY PULLAR WAS IN FREEBMD MARRIAGE :YEAR 1874 DISTRICT:PRESCOT, COUNTY: LANCASHIRE, VOLUME:8b PAGE 954 THE MALES ON THAT PAGE WERE LEE,WRIGHT ,ROBINSON,JAMES. I THOUGHT THE BEST WAY TO FIND OUT WHICH ONE SHE WAS MARRIED TO WOULD BE THROUGH THe 1881CENSUS AND POSSIBLY 1901 THERE WERE VERY FEW PULLARS IN THAT AREA AT THAT TIME. MOSTLY MY ANCESTORS WHO HAD COME FROM SCOTLAND. SO I FIGUERED ANY PULLAR AT THAT TIME WOULD BE RELATED. CATHERINE,MARY,JANET and SARAH WERE MY GGRANDMOTHERS SISTERS. I'm KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED X THANKs,Margaret

Hi Jess, Please could you do me another favour and check the 1901 census for a Thomas Day. I believe he may be in South Leighton, Essex, and he may already have been married with sons John and/or Tom/Thomas. I realise this is a long shot, but I have no further info, except that he may have been listed on the census as a Commercial Traveller (per his sons marriage cert) - I've been told he was a Punch & Judy man. Thanks Heidi