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Annette 1861 Hannah Bromley abt 1857 Bolton, Lancashire, England Daughter Tottington Lower End Lancashire Jane Bromley abt 1825 Bolton, Lancashire, England Wife Tottington Lower End Lancashire John Bromley abt 1832 Croston, Lancashire, England Head Tottington Lower End Lancashire < a police constable Selina Bromley abt 1860 Woolfold, Lancashire, England Daughter Tottington Lower End Lancashire Susan Bromley abt 1859 Bury, Lancashire, England Daughter Tottington Lower End Lancashire 1871 Hannah Bromley abt 1857 Bolton, Lancashire, England Daughter Ince in Makerfield Lancashire James Bromley abt 1863 Ratcliff, Lancashire, England Son Ince in Makerfield Lancashire Jane Bromley abt 1825 Bolton, Lancashire, England Wife Ince in Makerfield Lancashire John Bromley abt 1830 Croston, Lancashire, England Head Ince in Makerfield Lancashire < still a police constable their address is Richardsons House ------------------------------------------------------------- I assume this is the 1881 Hannah Bromley abt 1857 Bolton, Lancashire, England Daughter 76 Warrington Road, Ince In Makerfield, Lancashire, England James Bromley abt 1863 Bury, Lancashire, England Son 76 Warrington Road, Ince In Makerfield, Lancashire, England Jane Bromley abt 1824 Bolton, Lancashire, England Wife 76 Warrington Road, Ince In Makerfield, Lancashire, England John Bromley abt 1829 Chorley, Lancashire, England Head 76 Warrington Road, Ince In Makerfield, Lancashire, England < a labourer.

Jess - please could you look for this family: 1861 ENGLAND Census - most likely Lancashire John Bromley born abt 1829 Chorley, Lancs Jane Bromley born abt 1822 Bolton, Lancs Hannah Bromley born abt 1856 Bolton, Lancs 1871 ENGLAND Census - most likely Lancashire John Bromley born abt 1829 Chorley, Lancs Jane Bromley born abt 1822 Bolton, Lancs Hannah Bromley born abt 1856 Bolton, Lancs James Bromley born abt 1862 Bury, Lancs Thanks, Annette

1891 - maybe Ann and Alice? Burroughs, Alice M abt 1881 Landport Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsea Hampshire Burroughs, Anne H abt 1881 Landport Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsea Hampshire Burroughs, Clara Louisa abt 1858 Landport Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Wife Portsea Hampshire Burroughs, Ellen abt 1879 Landport Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsea Hampshire Burroughs, Emma abt 1879 Landport Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsea Hampshire Burroughs, Hetty L abt 1878 Landport Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Daughter Portsea Hampshire Burroughs, William F abt 1858 Landport Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Head Portsea Hampshire Burroughs, William F abt 1883 Landport Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Son Portsea Hampshire * will look for their birth reg - that should help- cant see on ancestry

Avril - the 1881 for Ref Clara Louisa Burroughs abt 1859 Portsea, Hampshire, England Wife 22 Albert Street, Kingston, Hampshire, England Ellen Burroughs abt 1880 Portsea, Hampshire, England Daughter 22 Albert Street, Kingston, Hampshire, England Emma Burroughs abt 1880 Portsea, Hampshire, England Daughter 22 Albert Street, Kingston, Hampshire, England Hetty Louisa Burroughs abt 1879 Portsea, Hampshire, England Daughter 22 Albert Street, Kingston, Hampshire, England William F. Burroughs abt 1854 Portsea, Hampshire, England Head 22 Albert Street, Kingston, Hampshire, England

Martin I can't find him (or Isabella for that matter) where was she born and when?

Hi Jess, I would be ever so grateful if you have the time to look up on the 1891 census to see if my great grandmother hetty had further brothers and sisters after her younger twin sisters were born (Ellen and Emma) in 1880. My g-grandmother was registered as Etty Burroughs, but known as Hetty (which I believe is the correct spelling). Hetty was born in Portsea, Portsmouth in 1878, her mother and father being William Frederick and Clara Louisa. There are rumours of a further set of twin girls but i can find no evidence of this. Thank you very much Avril

Hello Jess In 1871 William's daughter Harriet was born in Shelfanger (in the earlier census they said Diss,they are not very far apart when I have looked on the map,so it could be the same girl. His wife was called Victoria E vincent in1871 and Elizabeth in 1881 (perhaps Elizabeth could have been her middle name, as I know he did not remarry ).Because of the shoemaker connection also I am sure you have found the right family Jess. Thank you once again. You are brilliant.

Hi Jess could you please have a look on 1871 census for a Robert Bunting b 1797 so age 73 have him on 1861 living Matlock Bank with wife Isabella and five of kids but think they will all be married by 1871 he was born in Matlock just that ive found 2 possible death's for him 1 either side of 1871 so will help sort out when he died kind regards Martin P.S. he was a lead miner

Angela - how far out is the 1871 family i have found?

Thanks for looking up William Vincent ( shoemaker )for me. The details are definitely correct for the 1881 census, he did have a daughter called Harriett. It sounds like it is most likely them in the 1871 census but the information does not fit exactly between the two censuses. Thanks Angela

There you go, Daphne Hannah Jones abt 1792 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Mother English Bicknor Gloucestershire Mary Jones abt 1830 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Head English Bicknor Gloucestershire Sarah Jones abt 1833 English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England Sister English Bicknor Gloucestershire 'The Travellers Rest' Mary appears to be the beer house keeper. Her mother in a 'annuitant' so presumably has an income c/o her late husband, or maybe she owns property? It means she has an income that she doesn't have to 'work for' as such , I think.

hi jess oh, well, it looks like it will have to be a birth certificate then. no easy answers for me! thanks a lot for looking though. we really do appreciate people like you who do this searching for us. take care pam

It seems they didn't want to be known on census night! my mother tried some time ago to find them and to no avail just thought she might have missed them witnesses are a Jack Hibberd & Louie Kay so dont think that will help?? only fred i found on1881 born Sheff had parents Thomas & Sarah, sister Ada & brother Charles but not sure if it's my Fred thanks for looking anyway

None of the Freds that appear fit your criteria 1901 Fred Warrington abt 1872 Camberwell Head Chadwell St Mary Essex Fred Warrington abt 1866 Wing, Rutland, England Head Wing Rutland Fred Warrington abt 1863 Burton-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England Head Horninglow Staffordshire Fred Warrington abt 1867 Honley, Yorkshire, England Head Longwood Yorkshire Fred W Warrington abt 1853 Harlington, Middlesex, England Head Old Brentford Middlesex is this a father from a marriage Cert? Witnesses names/sibling names- any ideas?

Hi Jess could you please check 1901 census for a Fred Warrington living in Sheffield not quite sure birth year poss 1877?? not sure of wife either but will have a son Joseph Harold he was born 1899 Thanks for any info you can find regards Martin

Pamela- I had looked ay 1881 and discounted all the entries Mary Fittis abt 1847 Morpeth, Northumberland, England Mother Greencroft, Durham, England <too Old Mary Fittis abt 1881 Workington, Cumberland, England Niece Greencroft, Durham, England <a neice (so not parents) Mary A. Fittis abt 1862 Bourn, Lincoln, England Servant Vicarage, Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England <ditto Above but servant Mary Ann Fittis abt 1852 Appledore, Devon, England Wife 30 Bower Lane Queens Own Coffee Tavern, Maidstone, Kent, England <Born Devon Mary Sarah Fittis abt 1875 Heworth, Durham, England Daughter Squires Arms Public House, Heworth, Durham, England <Mary Sarah ------------------------------------------------------------- Of course she will not appear in 1871, and by 1901 will be married. Not very helpfully Both the women on the marriage page were called Mary, so which ever of the men i find in census will have a wife Mary, so that will not help. birth cert has to be the way to go Sorry

hi jess thanks for doing the look ups. i was hoping that if you were able to find mary jane in the 1881 census, that that would have detailed her parents and siblings names. if you could continue searching for her in the 1881 or later censuses then that would be great. thanks for all that you have done so far. pam

HI JESS, SORRY ABOUT THAT, IT,S THE ONLY CLUE I HAVE GOT,JOHN ELLIS BORN LEEDS ABT 1862 MIGHT HAVE A BROTHER CALLED WILLIAM.WHAT ABOUT TRYING 1881 CENSUS FIRST THEN 1871.THANKYOU JESS LUV MAGGIE X

Hi Jess, Many thanks for your generous look-up offer. If you have the time could you possibly look-up the following please: re Betsy Stirrup. 1871 Census 17 Mill Street, Much Woolton, Lancs Betsy Stirrup Head Widow 72 Washerwoman,Farnworth, Lancs Henry son S 32 Joiner Much Woolton, Lancs. That is the only mention I have of her, and would like to know more if possible. I have both the 1881 & 1891 census readings for her son Henry Stirrup, but if you have anything else it would be a bonus. With grateful thanks, Jimmy