Genealogy Chat

Hi Jess thanks for all that. Looking good. Had Info fron Geoff re KELK in 1851 Carters Buildings Northolme George Kelk 66 Farm Lab born Wainfleet St Mary Ann 66 Edmund 18 App Cordwainer born Northolme Don't know if that might help with their 1871 or 1861 census Your help is really kind Regards Linda

Thanks Jess I think it would have to be this one: GARTSIDE, John Edward 1908 June Marriages Saddleworth West Riding of Yorkshire. As the others are too early for him as he was born in 1885. Is there any more details on this marraige please. Cheers Lyn.

Linda looks as if Edmund died in Lincolnshire, so why the devil cant I find him? GGGGrrrrrrrr Name: KELK, Edmund Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 53 Quarter: March Year: 1887 < makes him born 1834 , about right District: Spilsby County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 366 I WILL come back to this later...it irritating me!

Lyn, there is nothing more to add to that marriage, no brides listed

Jess Thanks for looking, at least i know he was married, just need to find out if he had any children. Thanks for the help Jess. Lyn x .

Hi Jess Thanks for the death info. I didn't have that before. Sorry I've given you another difficult one to try and solve. Still you seem to thrive on our problem families Regards Linda

Lyn- Remind me to wear a harness when I shin up your tree, -( you seem to be taking a lot of chances) do you want the reference for that marriage to buy the cert to check parents names?

anyone want tonight?

Hi Jess Why do you say i am taking chances for? if i don`t take a few i don`t think i will get any where....LOL.... yes if you can that would be great. Cheers Lyn x.

Name: GARTSIDE, John Edward Record Type: Marriages Quarter: June Year: 1908 District: Saddleworth County: West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 9a Page: 539 there you go then Lyn, just hope the cert has the right fathers name on! Jess

Hi Jess Can I ask for a lookup please. The family I am after are George and Fanny Roberts.Could you llok for them on the 1871, 1891 and 1901 census. George was born in 1835 in Marston, Bedfordshire and Fanny was born in 1843 in Pimlico, Middlesex. I am not entirely sure when they got married. It may be after 1871 if this is the case could I have the 1871 census for George only. In 1881 they had one child with them. His name was Richard H Roberts and he was born in Hendon, Middlesex in 1877. Thats all the info I have at the moment. Thanks again, Emma

Emma interesting...! George Holloway abt 1816 Abbotts Langley Lodger Edgware Middlesex George Lawrance abt 1844 Romford, Essex, England Lodger Edgware Middlesex George Roberts abt 1835 Marston, Bedfordshire, England Lodger Edgware Middlesex < married, looks like to Martha in 1871! Martha Roberts abt 1835 Cambridgeshire, England Lodger Edgware Middlesex Eliza Yeowell abt 1827 Stanwall, Middlesex, England Wife Edgware Middlesex Emily Higham Yeowell abt 1870 Kings Langley, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Edgware Middlesex Vail Nash Yeowell abt 1861 Chertsey, Surrey, England Son Edgware Middlesex William Yeowell abt 1831 Chertsey, Surrey, England Head Edgware Middlesex

Hi Jess That is definitely something which I need to investigate further. Thanks for the info and were you able to find him on the 1891 or 1901 census. I am starting to think he may be a confusing one!!! Thanks again, Emma

1891 Roberts, Fanny abt 1844 Marylebone, London, England Wife Edgware Middlesex Roberts, George abt 1836 Bedfordshire, England Head Edgware Middlesex Roberts, Richard H abt 1878 Edgware, Middlesex, England Son Edgware Middlesex 1901 George on his own George Roberts abt 1836 Marston, Bedfordshire, England Head Edgware Middlesex <widow

Hi Jess I'm a bit early tonight or should i say this morning. I found all of the information you gave me very interesting. Frier Barbara Mcgeoch, considering we know that she was more than likely illiterate (Yolden instead of Youlden) she spelt it wrong or people she was giving information to just had a stab at it, it's possible it got changed to Macgear. Now then, Before i became interested in my ancestors and joined GR i used search all sorts of odd sites, looking through some old notes i found some information i had taken from Kellys Directory 1933, lists trades/shops etc of B,ham. On the 1891 census list of names you gave me the address was 135 Suffolk St for Bull and Frier, Kellys--- Barbara Youlden (nee Frier) shopkeeper town central, Suffolk St is right in the centre of city. She also was a coal dealer in Philips St Aston then the last one, you gave me details of a possible daughter, Youlden, Barbara Macgear,Birth,1894, Kings Norton.Kellys--- Barbara Youlden coal dealer Kings Heath, these two areas are next to each other about 10miles from Aston. I suppose it is possible she had family there and thats why she travelled, what i would think in those days was a good distance, to have her (we assume) daughter and run a business. I can remember when i was in shorts being told we came from Scotland, top of your list, Bull, Barbara abt 1824 SCOTLAND, wish i hadn't remembered that now i will have to find out if it's correct, questions questions. Anyhow, when i get to see the certs that i need to send for i will hopefully get some helpful answers. Thank you very much for your help Bren

Judith George Thompson abt 1858 Westerton, Durham, England Head Newton Cap Durham <publican Hannah Thompson abt 1864 Bewick Wain, Durham, England Wife Newton Cap Durham James W Thompson abt 1891 Spennymoor, Durham, England Son Newton Cap Durham Jane E Thompson abt 1900 Newson Cap, Durham, England Daughter Newton Cap Durham William Thompson abt 1886 New Beswell, Northumberland, England Son Newton Cap Durham address Toronto Inn

Good morning Jess Many thanks for that, can you let me know who i have to get in touch with to get the cert, as i went through Bridgend for my last ones. Cheers Lyn x.

Hi Jess, I am after picking your super brain again. Samuel Herbert Marsden. I am trying to find the details of a marriage and possible birth, to enable me to send for the certs. I found this on IGI--Marriage between Samuel Herbert Marsden and Elizabeth Rathbone 24 Dec 1855, St. Thomas, Heaton Norris, Lancashire (sometimes Cheshire). I have them on 1861,1871,1881 census and he is down as being born abt1837 (cant find birth so may be earlier). it says they were both 21 at time of marriage so there is a bit of discrepancy there. It also gives her father-- Nathaniel His father-- Thomas I have what I think is his death 1890 age 53yrs, Stockport Cheshire, as he doesn't appear in 1891 I think that is him. Hope you can help Gloria xx

Lyn just go the the GRO webside and order it there. by far the easiest way

Jess I would but for one i don`t know the web site and two i do not have a credit card, can only pay by cheque do they allow you to pay in that way. Lyn x.