Genealogy Chat

Lyn, ring him again and ask exactly what it says on the birth cert,(who's birth cert is it (her daughters?) childs name date of birth fathers name mothers name who registered the birth It will help us... jess

Jess I'm busy entering the info you found for me (page 1 of thread) The last one seems chopped off? Is it missing or did you get tired :))) I assume its Breadcroft, Hertfordshire? 1871 Ada Swallow abt 1866 Breadcroft, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Harpenden Hertfordshire Emily Swallow abt 1859 Breadcroft, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Harpenden Hertfordshire George Swallow abt 1861 Breadcroft, Hertfordshire, England Son Harpenden Hertfordshire Henry Swallow abt 1863 Breadcroft, Hertfordshire, England Son Harpenden Hertfordshire Rose Swallow abt 1831 Redbourn, Hertfordshire, England Head Harpenden Hertfordshire Walter Swallow abt 1857 Bre Thanks JElly x

Hi Jess I have just rung him back, the birth cert was for her daughter: Doreen May Mitchell Born 2/6/1931 Father: Percy George Mitchell Mother: Lily Emma Woods Registeredby: Lily Emma Woods living at 217 Lower Woodside Caddington Road. Can you please if possible tell me WHY her birth would of been witnessed on 1/8/1946. Also why a marriage that took place on the 23/7/1949 was witnessed on the 12/11/1951. Cheers Lyn.

Lyn - the dates are 'odd'- the birth cert does suggest one thing (although i'll keep that idea to myself ) until you find out a bit more about them. Do YOU have any ideas as to why a birth should be registered after a space of time? I think, with all due respect that he must be misunderstanding something on the marriage cert, the witnesses sign at the wedding, not days weeks or months later. J..elly erm ..not sure ...guess copy and paste missed the end not me! yes Breadcroft etc

Hi Jess Could it be that they had the bands read 2 years later? Would my nan have got a new birth cert for when she started work? as this is the only reason i can think of. I really think i need to go to bed as all this isn`t making much sence to me at the moment, will look at it all again tomorrow. Would just like to say a ((((REALLY)))) big (((THANKYOU))) Lyn.

Lyn- marriage banns are 'read' before the marriage can take place, so it cant be that. Are we confusiong date of registration or date of issue here with the birth cert? Births are not witnessed If i sent for my birth cert today it would have an issue date of probably Monday on it, the day that they copied it and sent it to me

hi jess, could you possibly look up in the 1861 census for angelo irwin born abt 1818 in hammersmith london? all i know is that he was married to a lady mary ann!! any help would be very much appreciated! kindest regards Tracey.

Tracy 1861 Angelo Irwin abt 1818 Hammersmith, Middlesex, England Head Stepney Middlesex Angelo J Irwin abt 1847 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Son Stepney Middlesex Benj N Irwin abt 1853 Ratcliff, Middlesex, England Son Stepney Middlesex George Irwin abt 1856 Ratcliff, Middlesex, England Son Stepney Middlesex Mary A Irwin abt 1826 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Wife Stepney Middlesex Mary A Irwin abt 1848 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Daughter Stepney Middlesex Sarah Irwin abt 1850 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Daughter Stepney Middlesex William Irwin abt 1860 Ratcliff, Middlesex, England Son Stepney Middlesex

Name: IRWIN, Angelo Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 48 Quarter: March Year: 1866 District: Stepney County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 386 explains why i cant find Him in 1871 anyway!

Dear Jess, A more difficult request. I am looking for WILLIAM LILLY LENDRUM BARCLAY in the 1861 Census. The information I have for him is as follows: He was born in 1849 in Peterhead Aberdeenshire and his father died the following year. I 'got' him in the 1851 Censu livng with his mother in Peterhead. She remarried in 1854 to Peter Allan. My next information about him is in the 1871 Census when he was living as a lodger in Hebburn in Tyneside. He would be ca 11 years old in 1861 but I've no idea where he is. Derek

leave request by all means , but am off out for the day. will look , inc yours Derek, later.. Jess x

Good Afternoon Jess Have just got in from work and read your message from last night. I think what you have said is complety right as i have just looked at the birth cert i recived for my gr grandad Ivor James and it has the date i ordered it on it, so i think he may have mis read the cert as you said. Thankyou for all your kind help. Lyn.

Hi Jess, Please could you do me another favour and check the 1901 census for a Thomas Day. I believe he may be in South Leighton, Essex, and he may already have been married with sons John and/or Tom/Thomas. I realise this is a long shot, but I have no further info, except that he may have been listed on the census as a Commercial Traveller (per his sons marriage cert) - I've been told he was a Punch & Judy man. Thanks Heidi

Hi Jess,PRESCOT IS A REGISTRATION DISTRICT THAT COVERS ST HELENS,WINDLE,SUTTON AND ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS. MARY PULLAR WAS IN FREEBMD MARRIAGE :YEAR 1874 DISTRICT:PRESCOT, COUNTY: LANCASHIRE, VOLUME:8b PAGE 954 THE MALES ON THAT PAGE WERE LEE,WRIGHT ,ROBINSON,JAMES. I THOUGHT THE BEST WAY TO FIND OUT WHICH ONE SHE WAS MARRIED TO WOULD BE THROUGH THe 1881CENSUS AND POSSIBLY 1901 THERE WERE VERY FEW PULLARS IN THAT AREA AT THAT TIME. MOSTLY MY ANCESTORS WHO HAD COME FROM SCOTLAND. SO I FIGUERED ANY PULLAR AT THAT TIME WOULD BE RELATED. CATHERINE,MARY,JANET and SARAH WERE MY GGRANDMOTHERS SISTERS. I'm KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED X THANKs,Margaret

Hi Jess, this is excellent, thanks very much, my dad will be thrilled to hear more names!! could i be really cheeky and ask you to look for a charles ward middle name kimpton (might narrow it down abit) born 1841, finsbury, london, his father's name kimpton, he was born 1818 in hertford, but living in london. any help will be great but if not then thankyou for the try it's not such a great name to work with!! Kindest Regards Tracey

Hi Jess First i would like to thank you for your offer, your time and your effort. Could you look in the 1901 census in the distrct of Aston (B,ham) Warwickshire for Albert Edward Youlden born c1867 and his wife Barbara Macgear Youlden nee Frier born c1871 They married in the Dec Qtr of 1892 in the above district. I would like to know where they wher living and of any children. The next two didn't marry until the Sept Qtr of 1902

Hi Jess sorry i dont know what happened then, it just went before i had finished. The next two didn't marry until the Sept Qtr of 1902 in Aston but i am hoping that if you can find them in the 1901 census that they are both living with their respective parents. Francis Joseph Badland, born c1877 Ellen Langdell born c1881 I hope that this information is enough to let you be able search. Once again thank you. Bren

Catherine 1871 John Harrington abt 1829 Messing, Essex, England Head Messing Essex Naomi Harrington abt 1835 Messing, Essex, England Wife Messing Essex will try for 1861- naomi is alone Naomi Harrington abt 1835 Messing, Essex, England Head Great Wigborough Essex in occupation column she is an AG LABS wife...wonder where he was ag lab-ing?

Heidi Emma Day abt 1877 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Wife Leyton Essex John Day abt 1899 Bow, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Thomas Day abt 1898 Bromley, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Thomas W Day abt 1876 Poplar, Middlesex, England Head Leyton Essex occupation - showman On the same page here are another family of days- also head showman.Possibly his father? David A Day abt 1886 Stepney, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Esther Day abt 1853 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Wife Leyton Essex George H Day abt 1882 Poplar, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Henry Day abt 1891 Plaistow, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex John Day abt 1896 Bromley, Middlesex, England Son Leyton Essex Martha E Day abt 1889 Hackney, Middlesex, England Daughter Leyton Essex Myra E Day abt 1879 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter Leyton Essex Thomas W Day abt 1851 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Head Leyton Essex 'SHOWMAN and exhib'

Tracy- struggling with a good match for Charles Ward - sorry