Genealogy Chat

I think your best bet is to buy the marriage cert with the reference Sarah gave you. As you have the quarter and year, you could check it to see if you can find Agnes listed. Don't pay too much attention to the Welsh orphan version. The man has been dead for several decades, and that's a long time for Chinese Whispers to run.

lol Tracy! Sarah

Not two, but I can't get the guys name right lol He's been renamed to William as it's a mich more common name lol

If you get the marriage cert that may help to confirm the fathers names and occupations making it easier to be certain as to whether those census records for Matthias are the correct ones. At least the marriage cert should be the right one!! It's hard to give advice as to which sites to subscribe to when it all depends on what info you are after. Maybe if you could give some examples of what you want to find out and in what time frame and you will probably get too much advice lol Oh, but see Tracy in Teesside's speedy typing above!! Bet she isn't only using two fingers like me!! Sarah

You have to buy certificates to confirm information. Do you have Agnes & Mathias' marriage cert? On there, it should tell you who his father is (hopefully). This can then be checked against the census. I transcribe (sometimes) for FreeBMD. It's very worthwile, and helps speed up how long it will be before the whole thing is done :) Depending on what you're looking for will determine which sites to subscribe to. Ancestry is a very good site that contains census information from 1861-1901, and is pretty much complete. Other sites it might be worthwhile signing up for are ones that contain BMD info from 1910. These include 1837online, TheGenealogist, FamilyRelatives. Familyrelatives is good from 1866 to 1920, as they are fully(ish) transcibed. Outside those dates, one of the other sites would be better as familyrelatives doesn't have anything before 1866, but the others go back to 1837. However, always check FreeBMD first. No point paying for something you can get for free :)

Maybe I have got this all wrong. Its my sister who was told that Matthias was from Wales and an orphan. By the time he married Agnes he could have been an orphan. Yes? I seem to be asking quite a lot of questions and some more - Has anyone ever registered to transcribe for bmd? What are the most useful sites to go into to get info and also best sites to subscribe to. I don't want to subscribe to sites iif they don't hold the info I need Also apart from dates that correspond to the person you are looking for how do you know if that's the one - or don't you.

Oh, btw - I can't find one born in Wales, who is an orphan.

I'd guess this is James in 1871, but it could be wrong... James Hughes abt 1817 Bermondsey, London, England Head Liverpool Lancashire Elizabeth Hughes abt 1818 Monk Weellen, Lancashire, England Wife Liverpool Lancashire Mary Hughes abt 1848 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire > James Hughes abt 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire Elizabeth Hughes abt 1853 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Liverpool Lancashire Mathias Hughes abt 1856 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Liverpool Lancashire John Hughes abt 1867 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Grandson Liverpool Lancashire Only a guess based on the Mathias connection.

Ooooh !!!! Just had a thought! Look at the street name for the Hughes. Then look at the name of Thomas' wife in 1882! Same person???? Maybe not, since she's a Hughes. I'll have a look for James & Elizabeth's marriage.

Here's a mother for you.. 1881 James Hughes abt 1851 L pool Head 5 Cranmer St, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Hughes abt 1856 L pool, Lancashire, England Wife 5 Cranmer St, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Hughes abt 1874 L pool, Lancashire, England Daughter 5 Cranmer St, Liverpool, Lancashire, England William Hughes abt 1876 L pool, Lancashire, England Son 5 Cranmer St, Liverpool, Lancashire, England James Hughes abt 1880 L pool, Lancashire, England Son 5 Cranmer St, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Joseph Hughes abt 1881 L pool, Lancashire, England Son 5 Cranmer St, Liverpool, Lancashire, England PS - I'm still confused by Thomas and Elizabeth Wright lol

found these births for hughes & wright Hughes James Wright West Derby.8b 761 Birth 2 1917 Hughes Elizabeth Wright West Derby.8b 619 Birth 1 1919 dont know if they are yours. Kate x

I think this one's your in 1901 Ann Barlow abt 1863 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Kirkdale Lancashire George Barlow abt 1848 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head Kirkdale Lancashire James Hughes abt 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Boarder Kirkdale Lancashire Mathias Hughes abt 1884 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Boarder Kirkdale Lancashire James is a Widow. Here they are in 1891 Hughes, James abt 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head Everton Lancashire Hughes, James abt 1880 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Everton Lancashire Hughes, Joseph abt 1882 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Everton Lancashire Hughes, Matthias abt 1887(1884) Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Everton Lancashire Hughes, Thomas abt 1887 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Everton Lancashire

Maybe? Hughes, Owen abt 1835 Caerhun, Caernarvonshire, Wales Head Caerhun Caernarvonshire Hughes, Anne abt 1855 Caerhun, Caernarvonshire, Wales Wife Caerhun Caernarvonshire Hughes, Mathias abt 1881 Caerhun, Caernarvonshire, Wales Son Caerhun Caernarvonshire Hughes, William abt 1883 Caerhun, Caernarvonshire, Wales Son Caerhun Caernarvonshire Hughes, Llewelyn abt 1886 Caerhun, Caernarvonshire, Wales Son Caerhun Caernarvonshire Hughes, Ellen G abt 1890 Llangelynin, Caernarvonshire, Wales Daughter Caerhun Caernarvonshire 1891 Wales. Not this one - he's still with them in 1901.

If you want their death cert's then you will need to look up the death registrations on a pay-per-view site such as 1837online. As you have the dates this should be quite easy!! (Lucky you!) Sarah

Agnes Wright is too common a name to pick up her birth reg, so you are going to need their marriage cert to pick up her fathers name to enable you to find her on the 1901 census. This could be it: Hughes Matthias, Spouse surname, Wright, District, West Derby. Volume 8b, Page 559, Marriage, Q2 1916 Sarah

Hmmm, Well there is this birth reg in the right quarter (and I tried Matthias with one ''t'' as well), but it's in the wrong place! Name: Hughes, Matthias Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1883 District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 362 Sarah

Any tips on how to find someone I hardly know anything about? Matthias Hughes (my Grandfather) B - 20th April 1883 D - 8th February 1957 Family members say he was from Wales and was an orphan. Have found one on 1901 Census (West Derby, Liverpool) living with a James Wright (could be his father). Matthias was married to Agnes Wright (don't know when) Agnes (my Grandmother) B - 22nd November 1894 D - 2nd December 1962 Dates and spelling of names have been taken from headstones. Lived in Walton/Everton area of Liverpool. Buried in Kirkdale Cemetery, Seeds Lane, Liverpool. Children Elizabeth Agnes May (my Mother) Thomas John Henry Don't know what order children were born in