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hi again Jess, if you get a spare couple of minutes could you look on the 1891 census and see if you can find where my great grandfather was living. His name was Alfred Rogers and he was born March 1883 in Bethnal Green, London, Possible sister Lou(ise) and brother Issac mothers name was possibly Louisa! Thank you in advance Avril

Avril 1901 John Rogers abt 1893 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Louisa Rogers abt 1858 Bethnal Green, London, England Wife Bethnal Green London Thomas Rogers abt 1900 Mile End, London, England Son Bethnal Green London William Rogers abt 1886 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Alfred Rogers abt 1861 Bethnal Green, London, England Head Bethnal Green London Alfred Rogers abt 1882 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Daniel Rogers abt 1891 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London George Rogers abt 1897 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Isaac Rogers abt 1889 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London 1891 Rogers, Alfred abt 1861 Bethnal Green, London, England Head Bethnal Green London Rogers, Alfred abt 1884 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Rogers, Daniel abt 1890 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Rogers, Isaac abt 1888 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Rogers, Louisa abt 1859 Bethnal Green, London, England Wife Bethnal Green London Rogers, Louisa abt 1882 Bethnal Green, London, England Daughter Bethnal Green London Rogers, William abt 1886 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Bethnal Green London address is 44 Moss St. ----------------------------------------------------------- will see if i can find parents in 1881: interesting Alfred Rogers abt 1862 Bethnal Green Lodger 13 Collins Place, Bethnal Green, London, England Laura Rogers abt 1860 Bethnal Green Wife 13 Collins Place, Bethnal Green, London, England wonder if laura and louisa were interchangable, or maybe wrong pair?. see if i can find the marriage BAKER, Louisa 1880 December Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex Dodd, Lavinia Emily 1880 December Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex ROGERS, Alfred 1880 December Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex Taylor, Robert Thomas 1880 December Marriages Bethnal Green Greater London London Middlesex Quarter: December Year: 1880 District: Bethnal Green County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 521

Are you able to have better luck with this one? 1901 census Bertha abt 1879 Lincolnshire& William Kemp age 22 abt 1876 Lincs Willis Kemp age 10 days or weeks Mansfield Nottinghamshire Are you able to find occupation & address for them? thanks, Cherylx

Hi from New Zealand Would appreciate help finding RUSHTON ancestors in UK. They should be on 1871 census of Birmingham (Great Bridge, West Bromwich, Tipton, Dudley areas). Samuel George Rushton, age 35, Father (b1836c) Jane (nee Martin), 39, mother (b1832c) Samuel, about 5, son Albert Henry, 2 or 3, son (bDec 1869) Maybe another daughter or two. Samuel Snr, wife, Albert Henry and daughters emigrated to NZ before the 81 census (think) but left Samuel Jnr behind to be taken care of by Mr Aird of the Wellington Tube Works in Great Bridge. This line of the family is the one I am trying to trace. Your help much appreciated if you can. Regards Sharon Rushton, Auckland, NZ

Cheryl sorry didn't realise you were waiting. Have you found then in an index - even entering 'Willis' and 'Mansfield' as residence i cant see a Kemp! Likewise Bertha born Lincs, res Notts even should bring her up, and it doesn't...or i am doing something stupid

Sharon 1871 Albert H Rushton abt 1870 Horseley Rd Tipton Son Tipton Staffordshire Edwin Rushton abt 1868 Summerhill Lane W Hampton Son Tipton Staffordshire Fanny M Rushton abt 1866 W Hampton, Westmorland, England Daughter Tipton Staffordshire Jane Rushton abt 1834 Daws, Shropshire, England Wife Tipton Staffordshire Mary A Rushton abt 1864 W Hampton, Westmorland, England Daughter Tipton Staffordshire Samuel Rushton abt 1836 Windsor W Hampton, Berkshire, England Head Tipton Staffordshire Samuel W Rushton abt 1861 W Hampton, Westmorland, England Son Tipton Staffordshire address 125 Horsley Heath. samuel was a station master! -------------------- and 1861 Jane Rushton abt 1835 Dauley, Shropshire, England Wife Wolverhampton Staffordshire Samuel Rushton abt 1836 Windshaire, Berkshire, England Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Samuel W Rushton abt 1860 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire address deff household 23. a couple of pages back it says Wollen St, ....but not on their page as such Samuel is a railway point man. ---------------------------------------------- 1881 isn't so clear as to which is him - you may already know this info anyway, so wont try and work it out unless you need me to

Cheryl; Nope, still cant find them - so you understand where I have looked (cos i have...lots!) 1901 census; Willis kemp =0 Bertha Kemp living Notts= Bertha Kemp Wilmot abt 1893 Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Sutton in Ashfield Bertha Kemp Born Lincs =0 Bertha Kemp birth year +/- 1 = Bertha Kemp abt 1880 Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Bradwell Buckinghamshire Bertha Kemp abt 1880 Harley, Leicestershire, England Niece Havant Hampshire william Kemp = conflicting dates age 22 but born when?1876? Doesn't add up I can see Willis birth reg though! Name: Kemp, Willis Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1901 < would assume he is 10 weeks then... District: Mansfield County: Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 136 and their marriage Kemp, William 1900 September Marriages Mansfield Derbyshire Nottinghamshire Littlewood, Bertha 1900 September Marriages Mansfield Derbyshire Nottinghamshire

Hi! Many thanks for the info & look ups & trying hard with theses two. The marriage I have the certificate already & Willis's birth, What I can't find on him is the right page no. I tried getting his death certificate when he died in 1904 age 3, but GRO cannot find him. 1837 online have a misprint of him. I'm going to put their entry down 'don't go down that road with these rellies' cos they are a frustrating lot! Many thanks again Jess for info, Cherylx

Jess, Are you up for a challenge ? Charles Hill born abt 1820 scotland married Margaret Jaffery born abt 1824 scotland married 1845 . 1861 census old monkland : Charles Hill aged 40 born fife John ''''' 15 born old monkland Magaret '''' 12 '''''''''''''''' Robert ''' 11 ''''''''''''''''''''' Christina '' 7 '''''''''''''''' Helen ''5 '''''''''''''''''' William '' 3 '''''''''''''''''' [note that his wife is not on the census] After the 1861 census only John can be found in scotland .No death of charles or his wife Margaret can be found there Robert and William both can be found in earsdon northumberland Robert on the 1881 census in earsdon married to mary wright . william can be found on the 1901 census in wallsend northumberland with wife rachel and children . The problem is where have the others gone . There is no trace of any of the others on any census in scotland Any help would be great Cath

HI JESS, ONCE AGAIN THANKYOU FOR THE LATEST INFO. COULD YOU PLEASE DO A 1871 1881 CENSUS LOOKUP ON EMMA LEACH BORN 1864 HUNTINGDON, HER PARENT ARE RICHARD AND LOUISA LEACH, IF POSSIBLE ADDRESS PLEASE, .MANY THANKS JESS, LUV MAGGIE X

From : Graham Subject : Look up 1861 Census Can I take you up on your offer for an 1861 census look up. I am trying to trace John Thomas dob c 1828. On the 1871 census he was living in Bersham (near Wrexham) Wales occupation miner. He is married to Margaret (born c1825/26)and has a son Peter (born Bersham) who is 10 in 1871 so should have been born 1860/61 and I am hoping that he is on the 1861 census. I am having trouble locating the birth certificate for John's other son, Evan, (who is my Great Grandfather) who was born c 1862/63. I have a birth certificate for an Evan Thomas but the mothers name is Mary Ann and not Margaret. I was wondering, if the census entry can be found, what the entry gives and what John's wife's name is in 1861? Hope you can make sense of this.

maggie 1871 Albert H Leach abt 1867 Alconbury Weston, Huntingdonshire, England Son Alconbury Weston Huntingdonshire Emma Leach abt 1864 Alconbury Weston, Huntingdonshire, England Daughter Alconbury Weston Huntingdonshire Louisa Leach abt 1845 Upton, Huntingdonshire, England Wife Alconbury Weston Huntingdonshire Richard Leach abt 1842 Alconbury Weston, Huntingdonshire, England Head Alconbury Weston Huntingdonshire ,AG LAB Richard Leach abt 1869 Alconbury Weston, Huntingdonshire, England Son Alconbury Weston Huntingdonshire house hold 61 Hight St (probably)(maybe Eliz St- bit scrawly)

Maggie, at the moment they are hiding in 1881! Did Emma marry Mr White? would account for her... LEACH, Emma Frances 1880 September Marriages Huntingdon Huntingdonshire WHITE, John 1880 September Marriages Huntingdon Huntingdonshire Year: 1880 District: Huntingdon County: Huntingdonshire Volume: 3b Page: 447

Graham he just scrapes in - age 3 months 1861 John Thomas abt 1828 Corwen, Merionethshire, Wales Head Bersham Denbighshire Margaret Thomas abt 1827 Blaenpennant, Merionethshire, Wales Wife Bersham Denbighshire Peter Thomas abt 1861 Bersham, Denbighshire, Wales Son Bersham Denbighshire household 188, just 'the Village' --------------------------------------- same family 1871 Evan Thomas abt 1864 Barsham, Denbighshire, Wales Son Barsham Denbighshire John Thomas abt 1831 Corwen, Merionethshire, Wales Head Barsham Denbighshire <MINER Margaret Thomas abt 1828 Llandrillo, Merionethshire, Wales Wife Barsham Denbighshire Peter Thomas abt 1861 Barsham, Denbighshire, Wales Son Barsham Denbighshire address is household 6,Nant (something)

Re Thomas Thanks for the look up for me on the 1861 census. It does confirm that Margaret was the mother of both the children. I will need to keep searching for a birth certificate for Evan. Thanks

Catherine where is old Monkland? have done a quick look , there is no 'Helen Hill' showing in 1871 eng anywhere further north than Nottinghamshire, regardlesss of birth year. These may be worth a look, a bit wooly though! Charles Hill abt 1825 Scotland Head All Saints Northumberland Margaret Hill abt 1850 Scotland Daughter All Saints Northumberland Robert Hill abt 1858 Scotland Son All Saints Northumberland Sarah Hill abt 1823 Scotland Wife All Saints Northumberland Sarah A Steel abt 1868 Scotland Granddaughter All Saints Northumberland

JESS EMMA LEACH MARRIED JOHN ELLIS 1883 AT BARNSLEY. DOES THIS HELP. LUV MAGGIE X

maggie looks as though they are fragmented in 1881. will look later. Albert H. Leach abt 1867 Alconbury Weston, Huntingdon, England Nephew High Street, Alconbury Weston, Huntingdonshire, England James Maile abt 1843 Norfolk, England Head High Street, Alconbury Weston, Huntingdonshire, England Lucey Maile abt 1851 Alconbury Weston, Huntingdon, England Wife High Street, Alconbury Weston, Huntingdonshire, England Living in the high St, next door but one to the baker. I wonder of it is the same house/building as before?

Jess, Sorry Old monkland is in scotland . I have trawled scotlands people and spent i fortune trying to find them . I have checked all census and death,s for all of them in scotland only John shows up . He is on all census from 1861 to 1901 and died 1927 still in scotland It is really bugging me why they can,t be found I even went through every charles on the 1881 census with out putting in a surname and still nothing . If you can,t find them have you any idea's as to what to try next Catherine

Catherine, what is your take on the family that I have found- you have passed no comment so i was waiting for you to do so Jess