Genealogy Chat

Hi Mike News on my Thomas and multiple birth! The letter came back today and there is not another entry with Thomas. The registrar says ...that this may mean that Thomas was not the only baby at this confinement, but that he was the only one born alive. Stillbirths were not registered at this time. So money back and info into the bargain. The same happened when my mum was born (she was a Moore), she was a twin and the other baby was still born Elaine

Donna If this is him, it will be easy to look back for you unless you have the details, let me know Elaine Job GAMBLE Head M Male 51 Enderby, Leicester, England Labourer Fanny GAMBLE Wife M Female 47 Newton Harcourt, Leicester, England Seamer (Hos) Alfred GAMBLE Son U Male 24 Leicester, England Shoe Rivetter Tom GAMBLE Son U Male 22 Leicester, England Shoe Rivetter

Hi Elaine and Bev I have written those ones down ....and need to investigate further....thanks for looking...you either get to many names for one or none at all....lol...have to go through my notes again as i seem to have stuff i dont need mixed in ...needs a good sort out...just found Thomas Hall circa 1842 marriage to a Sarah Anthill 15th dec 1861 St Georges wonder if thats the one you got Elaine in Syston Street. Ihave one more to find if possibe Edward Gamble born about 1788 in Enderby married an Elizabeth Goode born circa 1792 Little Glen in Aylestone 24th October 1814 could they possibly be in an earlier census as cant find them in the ones i have access to dont know if they are still in Enderby where the children were born or moved into Leicester with Job Gamble there son...talk soon got to tidy up and start sorting . warm Regards Donna

Hi Donna Could this be her on 1871 Census Rg10/517 Folio 67 Page 41 St Marys Whitechapel John Brett head 1822 Bury St Edmunds Elizabeth A wife 1821 Stephney Alfred I son 1857 Whitechapel Clara E Daughter 1854 Whitechapel Ellen M daughter 1864 Whitechapel John Wm son 1847 Whitechapel couldn't find any with Breit Bev

Hi Donna have found a Thomas Hall born 1865 living at 211 Syston Street, Leicester, St Margarets Albert Hall abt 1880 Leicestershire, England Son Alice Hall abt 1875 Leicestershire, England Daughter George R. Hall abt 1863 Leicestershire, England Son Kate Hall abt 1877 Leicestershire, England Daughter Maria Hall abt 1869 Leicestershire, England Daughter Sarah Hall abt 1843 Leicestershire, England Wife Sarah Hall abt 1873 Leicestershire, England Daughter Thomas Hall abt 1842 Leicestershire, England Head ?Braid Hand Thomas Hall abt 1865 Leicestershire, England Son William Hall abt 1871 Leicestershire, England Son No occupation for wife and the rest are at school Elaine

Hi Elaine Hope you had a nice meal....and thanks for the info on Richard Grice there are lots of age discrepancies on my lot....lol...you do like a challenge dont you....lol warm regarde Donna

Hi Mike Lol my theory flew out the window then....thank youi had details of James father and mother and the year of marriage but you have given me more....i think James brother and sister are his witnesses....and as for Ellen Breit do you think she could be using her middle name as in one of the census on James has him as Henry James instead of James Henry....but alas i have no middle name for her...if she has got one ...once again Mike thank you very much really appreciate it . warm regards Donna

Hi Donna In 1881 have found this Richard Grice Head age 44 gen labourer born Upton Ann Grice Wife age 47 born Stoney Stanton at the same address as 1891, although it states it's 61 Hill Bower in brackets, wot's going on with the ages? Elaine

Greeting's Again Donna...... There you go for the marriage of Ellen...... St. Margaret's Parish Church :- Entry No.16, JUL 12, 1885, after Banns JAMES DAFT, 25, bach. SHOE RIVETTER, of 5, D CT., SANVEY GATE, s. of THOMAS DAFT, FWK ELLEN BREIT, 21, sp. of 7, C CT., SANVEY GATE, d. of AUGUSTUS BREIT, SHOE FINISHER Wits: GEORGE DAFT, EMMA CORT. Have you had a look at the following Census return for 1881. ? RG 11 / 3165./ 70. / Page. 18. No. 46. Benford Street. Look at the Dau. “ Emma Draft. Aged 18.” Could this be the “ Emma Cort” witness for James & Ellen Marriage ? Also this could be George Daft in 1881.? RG 11 / 3165. / 49. / Page. 7. 69, Wharf Street. Could this be James’s fathers Marriage ? St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Entry No.378, APR 9, 1849, after Banns THOMAS DAFT, full age, bach. FWK, of BENFORD St, s. of THOMAS DAFT, FWK HANNAH HYDE, full age, sp. of BENFORD St, d. of JOHN HYDE, PENSIONER Wits: JESSE NORTON, MARY RATCLIFFE. Ellen Breit is proving a bit more difficult to suss out…… But I’ll have a look latter on when I too return. MIKE. MIKE.

Hi Donna Got to go , off to the Toby for lunch, will try and look later and do have plenty of time tomorrow Elaine

Hi Elaine Hope your going somewhere nice...1901 census i have ... Thomas Hall Head MARRIED 38 foreman shoepressman Leicester Elizabeth A wife married 38 Stoney Stanton Leicester Thomas R unmarried son 13 shoe finisher Leicester Joseph unmarried son Leicester William unmarried son Leicester Sidney unmarried son Leicester lived 1 Model Cottages Dorothy Road Evington Leicester 1891 census... Richard Grice head widow 63 laundry man Upton Leicester Thomas Hall lodger son in law 25 pressman boots Leicester Annie Elizabeth daughter Stoney Stanton Leicester Thomas grandson 3 Leicester Joseph grandson 1 Leicester Joseph Hextall lodger 21 baker Upton Leicester lived 61 Guthlaxton Street Leicester then i get lost...lol...i have one for Mike too... i have a James Daft and Ellen Breit married in 1885 St Margs volume 12 i have tried to find ellen Breit but come up with zilch but i think its a spelling error and that she is called Brett . Ellen is in union workhouse in 1881 but under the name of Bright and she is from Whitechapel in London....i wondered if the marriage would give me the fathers name as i have found a John Brett as her father if the spelling is Brett .Hope you can understand my yammering ...thanks Donna

Hi donna Am actually off out soon, what about giving us the 1901 bit you have and we could work back with you to have a look at Thomas etc It will be good practice for me LOL Elaine

Hi Elaine and Mike Well where do i begin...lol...in my tree the names are Gamble (originally from Enderby)I have gone back to 1788 but now am stuck....Barnacle Which you so kindly helped me with yesterday...Hall which i am stuck on they are from Leicester In 1901 census Thomas Hall born about 1863 as age is given as 38 married to a Elizabeth A fron Stoney Stanton whose age is also 38....and have 4 boys Thomas R being my direct descendant born 1888 but then in 1891 census Thomas Hall and Elizabeth are 25 so would be born around 1866 (also Elizabeth is called Annie Elizabeth) So when i look at earlier census there are a few Thomas Hall in between those dates ...the next lot are called Daft and have got back to around 1756 to a marriage of Samuel Daft and Sarah Wilmore which was that date but cannot find birth of Samuel....well thats my dads side of the family ....mums is more difficult they are from Scotland and Ireland but i have managed to do some of it even though it can be hard work..any help would be appreciated but i feel cheeky asking....lol...even though ive typed this all out...warm regards Donna

Greeting's Again Elaine..... Well done ....... ( nice when it comes together ain't it M'Duck ? ) ...lol :0) I thought our days were numbered via messages on the Topic board yesterday.......Gulp..... Donna ........ If we can help further then post some names and years you want and we'll see what comes up....... MIKE.

Hi again Elaine and hello Mike Last time i will be on here today but will be back tomorrow got to go to work...by the way Elaine i work with an Angela Wright any relation, she is from Thurmastn...The date which i was looking for the chapel would be 1830s but thanks for looking i think it is going to be the George Street off of belgrave gate or is it Melton road oh well thanks for all your help ...i cant believe how kind you have been warm regards Donna

Hi Mike Just found a couple of my Wright children which means the 1841 Wrights you found are the (W)right ones as Emily S. is there and have found my Mary Elizabeth and Emily together using IGI batch no Elaine

Greeting's & Welcome Donna..... Here is the Transcript of that marriage :- St. Margaret's Parish Church. Entry No.292, APR 14, 1855, by LICENCE JOHN WELDING, 29, bach. SCHOOL MASTER, of LONGNAR, s. of JOHN WELDING, BRICKLAYER ELIZABETH BARNACLE, 30, sp. of FOUNDRY SQUARE, d. of WILLIAM BARNACLE, BOOT MAKER Wits: JAMES BARNACLE, REZEN? NEAL According to the 1914 map there is a ' Mission Hall ' on the corner of George Street & Bedford Street... But Can't think of a Church / Chapel on George Street Enderby it's only houses .....(Well it was last week)...... MIKE.

Donna Just sent you a message Elaine

Hi Elaine Just been on st margs marriage page and found that James sister marries John Welding in 1855 . thanks again Donna

Hi Elaine Thanks ever so much, the twist was just what i needed to. Can i be cheeky and ask you if you know how to find a certain building, i know its not a person but you may know, i have ancestors christened at George Street Primitive Methodiat Church they originally come from Enderby where there is a George Street but also moved to Watling Street next to Abbey Park and up the road there is a George Street so i dont know if they have nipped up the road or travelled back to Enderby, i have tried looking myself but come up with nothing thanks again warm regards Donna