Genealogy Chat

Hello All!! Looking for another elusive Butler!! Still haven't found Edwin Henry Butler (born 1868, Leicester) in 1881 - he's not at home with his parents (maybe he snuck off to be with his girlfriend and her parents didn't know he was there????) The surname is given to being misspelt!! In 1861, Edwin Henry's uncle John Thomas Butler is proving elusive and just wondered if any eagle eyes out there could spot him?? In 1851 he is unmarried, aged 16 and living with his brother Edward Henry, sister Jane, mother Jane, and step father Thomas Snaith in Belgrave Gate in Leicester. (He is a carriage trimmer). In 1871 he is shown as John T Buker, married, living with wife Susan (born Exeter) and daughter Jane in Birmingham, he is a coachmaker's trimmer. In 1881 he is married, aged 46 and living with his wife Susan, daughter Jane, son John F O Butler, and Susan's mother Sarah Hepper, in Exeter - he is a coach trimmer. In 1891 he is married, born 1835 and living with his wife Susan, daughter Jane, son Francis O Butler in Taunton - he is a coach trimmer. In 1901 he is widowed, aged 66, living with his daughter Jane in Exeter - he is a coach trimmer. In 1861 he is not married to Susan - have found her at home with her parents - but can't seem to find him anywhere - all thoughts welcome!! Thanks!!

Donna If you are interesting in Enderby then there is quite alot of the parish registers transcribed onto excel online. The address is: http://www(.)theyorks(.)org(.)uk/enderbyvillage%201.htm There looks like being quite a few Gambles

Hi Looking for BLACKWELL - SHEPSHED, MEDBORNE AND ARNESBY UNWIN - SHEPSHED PYM(M) - LOCKINGTON, KEGWORTH COTTON - SHEPSHED, MEDBORNE Marlene

Hi Tracey Looking for Wrights too, probably a couple of pages back now but have Mary Elizabeth Wright born in Thurmaston 28 Sep 1841, father William Wright and mother Sarah Kirkman. Any good for starters ? Elaine

HI Mike and everybody Haven't been on this thread for a while so just thought I'd add my names again Tedds Wright Burrows (Croxton Kerrial) Sutton (Burbage) Smith (lutterworth ) Linthwaite (Hinckley) Kirwan Coupe

Hi Mike Thanks for the info Alfred must of been a mummies boy then...lol...and base born child ...i was thinking the worse on that one...even though today it is taken with a pinch of salt i had never heard of that expression before. Looks like im going to have to go down to the records office but be better equipped as i seem to go off of what i am doing when i see an off shoot.Think ill stick with Job for a start as with your help i know he was christened at George Street Primitive methodist church...but on all census he says he is born Enderby and his eldest child Hannah Maria (annie maria) was born Lubbesthorpe which is sandwiched between enderby and Braunstone , so im thinking his father Edward could of been working in that area and he was staying with him ...long shot but trying to tie in Enderby , so if i can get his birth cert might get something im missing, once again thanks for the help warm regards Donna

There you Go…. St. Margaret’s Parish Church Leicester. Entry No.422, FEB 1, 1880, after Banns GEORGE HENRY GAMBLE, 20, bach. CLICKER, of WATLING St, s. of JOB GAMBLE, CARTER CLARA MOBBS, 21, sp. of WATLING St, d. of WILLIAM MOBBS, PHOTOGRAPHER Wits: FRANK MOBBS, HETTA MOBBS. Don’t think this is one of yours but posted :- Entry No.96, DEC 25, 1873, after Banns ALFRED GAMBLE, 27, bach. ENGINEER, of ABBEY St, s. of WILLIAM GAMBLE, TIMBER DEALER SARAH HUNT ELTON, 40, sp. of BURLEYS LANE, d. of RICHARD ELTON, SHOE MAKER Wits: RICHARD ELTON, HANNAH ELTON Base born Child = legitimate Child … Thought you would be asking that one ....lol :o)))) MIKE.

Hi me again I would just like to say that on a friday night my parents visit me as with me working nights and they working days apart from the odd sunday thats when we see eachother my dad is the Gamble and is rivetted to my every word especially when my dad lives not that far from where Job would of been living and working (dad lives Groby Road) thanks again Donna

Hi Mike Thanks for that ....what is a base born child...never heard that before .Mike i know you have done alot of looking for me on marriages but i have 2 more for St Margs if you would oblidge George Henry Gamble /Clara Mobbs 1880 VOLUME 11 Alfred Gamble/Sarah Hunt Elton 1873volume 10. the Alfred one i have him married alot later but think he was married twice...if the father isnt Job then it isnt my Alfred....he might of been a mummies boy and knew which side his bread was buttered thanks in advance Donna

To Confirm Donna's posting below :- 1841. Census Image. HO 107 / 591 / 21 / Page. 6. The Hundred of Gartree. Parish of Wistow. Hamlet of Newton Hardcourt. ' Newton Lodge.' William Boothway. 50. Ag. Lab. Y. Alice. Wife. 45. Y. Henry. Son 18. Worsted Frame Work Knitter. Y. Mary. Dau. 14. Y. Ann. Dau. 13. Y. Harriot. Dau. 11. Y. FRANCES. Dau. 9. Y. Marion. Dau. 6. Y. Thomas. Son. 5. Y. Eliza. Dau. 1. Y. Page. 7. Newton Harcourt. Thomas Boothway. 35. Ag. Lab. Y. Elizabeth Wife. 35. Y. David Wood. 8. Base born child. Y. Y. = YES. Born within the County. MIKE.

Hi all Look who i found....hoping its the right one William Boothaway about 1797 Wistow Leicester Alice Boothaway about 1801 Wistow Leicester married 1822 Wistow Leicester Henry Boothaway 22nd June 1823 Wistow Leicester William Boothaway 12th Dec 1824 Wistow Leicester Mary Boothaway 19th Nov 1826 Wistow Leicester Ann Boothaway 12th Oct 1828 Wistow Leicester Harriet Boothaway 7th March 1830 Wistow Leicester FRANCES BOOTHAWAY 1ST MAY 1832 WISTOW LEICESTER Maria Boothaway 15th Oct 1834 Wistow Leicester Thomas Boothaway 26th March 1837 Wistow Leicester Eliza Boothaway 10th Oct 1840 Wistow Leicester Im thinking things are looking up ...couldnt of done it without your help thanks once again very warm regards Donna

Hi Mike 10d whats that lol....was too young to remember ....now if you had said 10 bob or 10 shillings i might of remembered... Thank you very much for the wedding info at least it confirms for definate that i am on the right track...and Job is mine have to see if someone can find him in 1841 see if that sheds a bit more light....have to make a trip to Wigston for that birth photocopy might make a list so i can get a few while im there...not been in a while...once again thanks i was beginning to think i was barking up the wrong tree...as in 1861 there are 3 Jobs on census but im thinking its the same one but he is being crafty as 1 he is with wife and children...and the other 2 he is working on Stocking Farm in the Liberty of the old Abbey....i like that bit....but there is also a Maria Boothaway working there....link there somewhere i think...she is from Newton Harcourt too....from a very grateful Donna

Greeting's Again Donna..... Your on the right track then ..... VOL 11. St. Margaret's Parish Church :- Entry No.156, APR 8, 1882, after Banns TOM GAMBLE, 23, bach. SHOE RIVETTER, of 3, ALBERT COTTAGES, WATLING St, s. of JOB GAMBLE, CARTER. MARTHA LEAVIS, 23, sp. of 3, ALBERT COTTAGES, WATLING St, d. of JOSEPH LEAVIS (DEC'D), DYER Wits: WILLIAM DARNS, JANE LEAVIS. Before 1837 you only get Christening / Baptism details and they can be very basic ....Christian Name ...Son / Daughter of ..... Name of one or both parents Address of Village Father's Occupation Date of Christening and sometimes the date of birth but not that often date record was sent to the Bishop.. But you always get the Vicar / Curate Name ..... Best to view it yourself at Wigston and take a photo copy of it ...just as good as a copy via GRO and only cost 50p. ...10/ -d. for those old enough to remember them...lol :o))))) MIKE.

Hi all me again...just been looking at my Gambles and found a Tom Gamble married a Martha Leavis in 1882 at Saint Margs volume 11 would it be possible for you to have a look and see if his fathers name is written down...think i might of made a boo boo thanks in advance Donna

Hi Mike and Bev Thanks so much for the info...and the site it makes things a lot easier dumb question can i send for Jobs birth details or is it too far back and would i get any relevant info on it if i can get one...thanks again Donna (being a muppet)

Morning Mike, How are you doing? Sue...................

Hi Donna if you put hughwallis igi batch numbers into search engine it will bring you to igi batch numbers- British isles and North America go into that and scroll down to England it will bring you to towns go to Leicester and it will bring you to George Street Primitive Methodist.I couldnt put full Adress it wouldnt come up on board but this way should still bring you to site Bev

Greeting's Again Donna..... On the 1851. INDEX ONLY Census for the County of Leicestershire There is a Job Gamble aged 22. living in the village of Evington It would appear that he was working & living with some other family as there is NO other Gambles with the same index No. 167. Now I know Evington comes under the Billesdon district So Job & Fanny may not have married in the Village of Billesdon as first I thought. But married within the district of Billesdon. ( No Boothaway's in Billesdon Village in 1851.) Newton Harcourt also comes under Billesdon & have found several BOTHEWAY Families there....William & Alice( Née Cook ) & Thomas & Elizabeth. But no Fanny..... MIKE.

Hi Mike Thanks for answering the other thread still at a loss so am cutting the search down....i am just going to track Job Gamble if possible he was married to Frances/Fanny Boothaway in 1852 Billesdon...there eldest daughter was Hannah Maria(but in some census she is Annie Maria)She was born in Lubbesthorpe in 1854.On IGI Jobs parents are Edward and Elizabeth he is born 3rd Sept 1828 and christened on 22nd Jan 1829 at George Sreet Primitive Methodist Church which i am now assuming is in Leicester.I also have a Ruth Gamble christened 24th March 1826 at the same place with same parents names . do you think Job could be short for another name...thanks for reading Donna

Hi Mike Was wondering if you had anything for this family group (it's the Wright's in Thurmaston still you found for 1851), it's the difference in William's age that is bugging me, 1811 is the guess by going on the 1851 census but he is down as 53 in 1861 while James who is with him would match 1808 exactly with the ages he has given. William and James are born Belgrave according to 1861, still in Thurmaston Elaine 1. GEORGE WRIGHT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 15 FEB 1805 Belgrave, Leicester, England 2. JOHN WRIGHT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 28 SEP 1806 Belgrave, Leicester, England 3. WM. WRIGHT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 12 JAN 1811 Belgrave, Leicester, England 4. JAMES WRIGHT - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 31 OCT 1808 Belgrave, Leicester, England 5. SAMUEL WRIGHT - International Genealogical Index 21 Jan 1813 Belgrave Leicester