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I have the marriage cert. for Mary Marriott 25/12/1858 married William Iliff Shenton Parish Church. Father of Mary listed as William dec. No father for William Iliff. On the 1851 census Mary is living as a lodger with Richard Abell unmarried farmer. Her sister Jane is listed as living as a lodger with his father Samuel. I know nothing about these people other than above, could you check the 1841 census for any listings. Think the Marriotts always lived in Shenton. After her marriage Mary moved to Wolvey. Her first son Samuel was born in Shenton She died around 1878. I have the information from the 71-91 census. I am interested in her daughter Lydia who married into the Goss family. Thanks JoJo.

Greeting's Again Marlene..... Just had a look through my disks for Cotton Marriages in Shepshed around 1800 ish.... But couldn't tie any in on that date ..... There is one on the I.G.I. though.:- 26th. December 1791. John Cotton. ~ Sarah Thorpe. Shepshed. By Banns. Did spot this interesting one You know how they liked to name Siblings after their own names :- REBECCA MOUNTENEY. ~ Thomas Cotton. Shepshed. But the year is 1819. By Banns. Do you have the Marriage certificate for John & Rebecca then as you know the date ? Or would you like me to see what details I can find out from the Parish Registers next time I'm at Wigston ? MIKE. ***NOTICE *** Can we wait till PART SEVEN to this thread is up and running before anymore posts are added. Thanking you.....

Hi Mike Thanks very much for trying - greatly appreciated. Looks like it's many and several trips to the Records Office for me. AAGGHH!! - If I ever find what I'm looking for you'll probably hear the WHOOP of delight.

Greeting's Angie .... Tough this one ...... Like your good self I couldn't find any details via 1837. Other than this one :- Jan. ~ Feb.~ Mar. Qrt. 1901. Benjamin Harley. Ashby De La Zouch Area. Cert No. 7 a. 111. But think this is his death ? March Qrt. 1901. Benjamin Harley. Ashby De La Zouch. Age .0. Cert. 7 a. 73. Also struggled with any hits for 1901. Census returns. which might point to a mis translation of surname ? Tried:- Handley, Hadley, Marley, Hurley. and in desperation = Madley Closest I got was for 1891. Census RG 12. 2528 / 59 / Page. 28. Leicester. Shenton Street. Benjamin HADLEY. 20. Un Mar. Lodger. Occupation Molder. born West Bromwich.Staff's. MIKE.

Greeting’s & Welcome back Again Tammy……. Weston Families found for Bowden Magna.:- 1841. Census Images :- HO 107 / 589 / 05 / Page. 11. The Hundred of Gartree. Hamlet of Bowden Magna. William Cleaver. 70. Grazer. Anne Weston. 9. Female Servant. Next Door. Mary Weston. 35. Lace maker. Jane. 11. Thomas. 7. Frances. 6. Samuel. 3. William. 9 Months Old. Page. 16. George Weston. 35. Ag. Lab. Mary. 35. George. 11. John. 6. Ann. 15. Sophia. 9. Emma. 7. Mary. 4. Also living within the household THOMAS Weston. 70. Page. 29. Union Work house. Thomas Weston. 15. Inmate. All above Born within the County. Great Bowden Burials found :- WESTON ANNE 04 MAY 1813 5WKS DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY WESTON JOHN 05 MAY 1816 75 WESTON ROBERT 15 AUG 1817 10MTHS WESTON SARAH 11 MAR 1823 21 DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY WESTON WILLIAM 16 APR 1823 2WKS ? SON OF THOMAS & MARY [CHECK AGE] WESTON JANE 07 SEP 1829 13 DAUGHTER OF THOMAS & MARY WESTON * MARY 18 JAN 1831 53 WIFE OF THOMAS WESTON MARY 08 JUN 1838 10 WESTON GEORGE 16 DEC 1844 INF ABODE GREAT BOWDEN UNION HOUSE WESTON SARAH 03 MAY 1845 20 WESTON FRANCES 18 SEP 1849 14 WESTON MARY 17 MAY 1852 13 WESTON ELIZA 19 FEB 1854 27 WESTON * THOMAS 27 FEB 1857 82 WESTON MARY 14 MAR 1858 55 WESTON GEORGE 04 JAN 1861 55 WESTON THOMAS 29 MAR 1864 30 WESTON THOMAS 21 APR 1881 85 WESTON MARY 15 JUL 1885 80 WESTON HENRY FREDERICK 14 MAY 1888 44 © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. Marriage Found :- John Weston. ~ Alice Harding. 19th. May. 1771. Great Bowden. Christening’s Found :- With Parents John & Alice.:- THOMAS Weston. 25th. Dec 1774. Susannah. 29th. Set. 1771. William 22nd.Nov. 1772. Robert.6th. Dec. 1778. John. 11th. Feb. 1781. Hannah. 9th. Mar. 1783. Great Bowden Christening’s with Parents Thomas & Mary.:- Notes Thomas was a Hawker. John 8th. May. 1803. ( Drowned in a well 4th. July 1804.) Sophia. 4th. Dec 1807. Born 27th, Oct 1807. William. 6th. Nov. Born 26th. Oct. 1809. John. 28th. Jun. 1811. Born 23rd. Jun, 1811. Anne. 3rd. Apr. 1813. Died 4th. May. 1813.5 weeks old. Jane. 10th. Dec 1815. Robert. 27th. Oct. 1816. Mary. 4th. Apr. 1819. Elizabeth. 30th. Dec. 1821. A Marriage Found:- Could well be a second marriage ? ( going on the dates of the above ) Thomas Weston. ~ Mary CLEAVER. 16th. August. 1821. Notes :- Mary was a MINOR. That should keep you going for a while ? ….lol :0) MIKE.

Hi Mike I am hoping you can help me again!! Can you please have a look in 1841 and see if you can find - Thomas Weston born about 1775 in Leicestershire. I have him in 1851 as being born in Great Bowden, his occupation was Hawker. His wife was Mary but she had already died by 1851. Thank you very much Tammy

Hi - I am looking for birth details for Edward Albert Harley DOB 12/12/1901 (according to death indexes) and his brother Benjamin Harley born c.1899 - both quote their father as also being Benjamin Harley on their marriage certificates. I don't know who their mother was. Their births are not listed on 1837. There doesn't appear to be a Benjamin Harley father and son anywhere on 1901. Both of them married and died in Leicester - I THINK Edward was born in Leicester . Is my only option now to go to the Records Office and trawl through every parish record for Leicester until (if) I find him? Regards Angela

Greeting's Again Marlene.... On my Index Only Census returns it states Allen's age as 2. I've just finished the trawl through Loughborough Census returns for 1841. Although Onion(s) / Unwin Families found non matching William Elizabeth & daughter Eliza aged 4....Sorry Rechecked Shepshed again looking for all possible spellings but drew a blank.... BUT LOOK.... Who I found around the corner from that Elizabeth Unwin aged 30. Frame Work Knitter living in Navigation Street :- HO 107 / 596 / 06 / Page 34. Shepshed. Lant Street. John BLACKWELL. 45. Frame Work Knitter. Rebecca. Wife. 40. William. Son. 15. CHARLES. Son. 6. Rebecca. Dau. 4. Hannah. Dau. 1. MIKE.

Thanks to everyone who tried to help! Karen

Hi Mike This bit you found about the Kendricks Five Kenderick families found........ one being a William (62) and Anne(61)....Ummm by my digging am sure they are William Kendrick's parents, 1851 has helped me with them quite a bit and they stay in Hugglescote I haven't tied in the Samuel you found but he does live next door to William 1851. Found a Thomas with Ann and William as parents and most get christened Normanton le heath Elaine

Greeting's & Welcome Marlene.... I've had a look at Shepshed Census returns for 1841. Although there was several Unwin / Unwan Families But I didn't find your Eliza.... The only one which came closest was :- an Elizabeth Unwin.aged 30. Frame Work Knitter Living in Navigation Street. with her Family with a Daughter aged 4. named SARAH just wonder if she was using her middle Name ? But no Husband found.... I'll have a look at Loughborough returns for 1841. But this will take some time ( over 2,000 names ) So bear with me ..... In the meantime have found the following :- MARRIAGES Zechariah Unwan. ~ Hannah KIDGER. Shepshed. 1808. By Banns. William Unwin.. ~ Elizabeth STANIFORTH. Shepshed. 1827. By Banns. William Unwin. ~ Elizabeth BROWN. Shepshed. 1830. By Banns. Also from the I.G.I. Christening William Unwin. 20th. Dec. 1809. Shepshed. Father :- Zechariah Unwin. Mother :- Hannah. Which fits in with the Marriage of Zechariah ~ Hannah Kidger ? MIKE.

Hi Mike Thanks anyway Elaine

Greeting's Again Elaine... Sorry...... Checked out...... Thringstone Osgathorpe,Whitwick, Swannington, & Hugglescote & Donington. Found several Moor(e) Families in Thringstone But no George with a son George But to be fair there were several pages too faded to be sure I'm not sure yet if I'll make Tuesday for the talk & Cupa ...~D] MIKE.

Greeting's Again Karen....... Trouble with the early Census is there is no name search so it's a trawl through page by page Well..... glad you got there in the end.....WELL DONE Yes.... The ages of those over 15 were rounded DOWN to the nearest multiple of 5. on the 1841 Census. Yes the address in 1861 could have been ' Snow Hill ' very small writing ....Sorry. Good luck with your future searches....... If we can help again please post a message and we'll see what develops.... MIKE.

Hi Everyone, So sorry Mike...didn't mean to rush you, just thought you may have missed me... Originally i thought they should be in Notts but the 41 and 51 census showed that this Parr family were missing. It was only after noticing that Emma children were born in Wolverhampton that i tried a Staffs long shot and found them Anyway here they are with their ages, From the 41 census: JOHN PARR 30 TAYLOR MARY ANN 30 JOHN 15 TAYLOR EMMA 9 CHARLOT PARR 40 At Merridale street,Wolverhampton,Staffs. 1851 HO107/2019 Folio 323 page 23 Snow Hill, Wolverhampton John Parr Head 43 Tailor Master employing 6 men, born Nottingham Mary Ann Parr Wife 38 born Leicestershire Emma Parr Daughter 19 born Leicestershire William Walker Apprentice Tailor 19 born Nottingham John Perks Visitor 31 NK? born Hanley, Staffordshire This is def. my family as Emma went on to marry William Walker in 1854 in Wolverhampton(according to freebmd and census stuff) I know the ages were a little off in 41 census but thought that they rounded the ages up or down or sideways... Unfortuantely it doesn't give any other detail to narrow down a christening record. Karen

Greeting's Again Beverly...... ' Well Spotted'........Gold Star.... Karran........ Following on from Beverly's lead. I've tracked Emma Walker née Parr.... 1881 = RG 11 / 3550 / 29 / Page. 52. Nottingham. 1871. = RG 10 / 3509 / 69 / Page. 52. 84, Pollard Road. Nottingham. 1861. = RG 9 / 1996 / 153 / Page. 15. 7, Brown Hill Wolverhampton. 1851. Sorry..... I don't have Nottinghamshire returns No trace found within the City of Leicester. So.... Can only think all the action took place in Nottingham for 1851 ~ 1841. Census. If you went to an other Genealogy site Rootschat (.) KO ) (.) UK (remove brackets & spaces replace K with a see) and register on there which is FREE. and then ask for help in the Nottinghamshire Section.... I'm sure some kind person will help you.... MIKE.

Hi Mike Emma Birth 1832 was back with her parents in 1881 then as Emma Walker widow but that doesnt give you parish of birth Bev

H I KAREN I COULDNT LOOK AT THE AREA YOU STATED (AS I HAVENT ANY CENSUS INFO BEFORE 1861) THEY WERE FROM ORIGINALLY....SO PLEASE WAIT UNTIL MIKE (THE PROFESSIONAL) HAS LOOKED FOR YOU I JUST THOUGHT THERE WAS A FEW COINCIDENCES THATS ALL...I DID NOTICE THAT IN THE CENSUS YOUR MARY ANN (MOTHER) HER AGE CHANGES FROM BEING 41 IN ONE CENSUS AND 58 IN THE NEXT...WELL US LADIES DONT LIKE TO GIVE OUR AGES AWAY...LOL...AND I TOO HAD NOTICED SHE WOULD ONLY BE ABOUT 14 WHEN SHE HAD HER FIRST CHILD MIKE . WARM REGARDS DONNA

Greeting's Again Karen..... Just to say I had NOT forgotten you ... I'm pursuing along the lines That Mary Ann was born in SHARNFORD Leicestershire which is to the East of Hinckley. I read this from the 1861. Census RG 9 / 2454 / 101 / Page 13. and it's more clear on the 1871. Census. RG 10 / 3509 / 51 / Page. 16. That Mary Ann comes from SHARNFORD Leicestershire I'm also puzzled according to your dates Mary gave birth to John (1827) at the age of 14. ???? You'll only get a Christening records for Emma due to BIRTH records didn't start till 1837. So once we have found out which Parish Emma was born in then we can hopefully find her record. Can you tell me how you got the details for Emma (1832) Which will help locate her in 1841. Leicester's Census. But the search continues..... MIKE.

Hey Donna, Thanks for all that info - though to be honest it all just leaves me a little confused,LOL - Why , OH, Why couldn't the counties have stayed in the same place? Didn't they realise that changing boundaries could seriously hurt future genealogists brains,!! Oh well, I'll get over it i suppose.Guess i should find out something about Lincoln records now.... Thanks again, Karen