Genealogy Chat

what about this tribe in 1861 Alfred I Abbey abt 1847 Tubbingham, Leicestershire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Maryann Abram abt 1831 Mears Ashby, Northamptonshire, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire Alfred C Denell abt 1848 Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Wm E Dewing abt 1849 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire George Edwards abt 1850 Blakesley, Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Willm Edwards abt 1848 Blakesley, Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Fred Gent abt 1849 Town, Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire George B Glass abt 1840 Ireland Apprentice Great Houghton Northamptonshire Wm Steekley Green abt 1850 Kingsthorpe, Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Fred B Harris abt 1850 Abington, Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Wm Jalbert abt 1850 Clney, Buckinghamshire, England Seheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Fredrick Newitt abt 1847 Bradden, Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire John Newitt abt 1849 Bradden, Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire John D Newitt abt 1850 Lathbury, Buckinghamshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Wm E Newitt abt 1848 Bradden, Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Charles H Seitter abt 1848 Clney, Buckinghamshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Ann Sheyshaff abt 1836 Newport Newnell, Buckinghamshire, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire William B Walton abt 1848 Scaldwell, Northamptonshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Eliza B Weedward abt 1838 Kingsthorpe, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Great Houghton Northamptonshire Alfred J Witten abt 1850 Pickworth Heath, Staffordshire, England Scheler Great Houghton Northamptonshire Harriett Wright abt 1846 Lavenden, Buckinghamshire, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire

Thanks evryone - i guess 1861 will still be there in the morning ! jewel- to Jiffle - a verb jiffle - sort of wiggle a bit, like a queue would , you know

Hi Jess Sorry give up-what does jiffle mean? Thanks again for helping me sorry I can't do same. Best wishes julie

Maybe it was empty in 1891? If Charles Richardson had bought it for him to live in with his new bride and then she died, he might have had it closed up for a time. I have found him in 1901 living with wife No 2 and with his in-laws at Leamington Priors Warwickshire. He remarried in 1892. He was supposed to have been born in Marylebone in 1854ish, but I still cannot find him in 1891. Maybe he had gone on a tour of Europe or something?? In 1901 he was living on own means. Merry - Time for bed!

Jewels , sweetie pie , excellent effort, jiffle across a bit and find the one in northamptonshire!!

Hi Jess Have found Houghton Hall iin Norfolk, now what or who am I looking for! hehe You are all too quick

Another clue. This couple: Marriages Jun 1888 BATHER Lucy Theresa Warwick 6d 829 Richardson Charles Taswell Warwick 6d 829 Lived at GHH in 1888. Married in Q2 1888 and Lucy Theresa died on 29th Sept at GHH aged 23. Have not pinned him down in 1891 as yet...... Merry

well done Monty- and everyone else. i knew you'd crack it beween you!

1881 census Name: William Wales Age in 1881: 76 Estimated birth year: abt 1805 Relationship to head-of-household: Head Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Male Where born: Bombay British Subject Address: Houghton Hall Civil parish: Great Houghton County/Island: Northamptonshire Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Clergyman Without Care Of Souls Chapalin & Hon Canon Of Peterbroro Source information: RG11/1541 Registration district: Hardingstone Sub-registration district: Hardingstone ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 99 Page: 13 Pete

Ooh Jess, those people Coales in 1871 are the right family (posted on page 1 of the thread)!! Quote from The Times archive Births Column: ''On 21st Feb [1870] at Great Houghton Hall, Northampton, the wife of T COALES esq, a daughter.'' Merry

1891 census Name: Sullivan, Henry E Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where Born: Marylebone, London Birth Country: England Civil parish: Great Houghton Ecclesiastical parish: Great Houghton Town: Great Houghton County/Island: Northamptonshire Source information: RG12/1192 Registration district: Hardingstone Sub registration district: Hardingstone ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 101 Page: 11

Hi Jess If it is a 'Big House' then the family may be in London for the season, or travelling on the Continent. The children, if any, may be at Boarding school. In those circumstances, there may only be a housekeeper there, or just a couple at the lodge. Have you looked at any old directories, which would definitely give you the name of the owner/occupier at the time? You might then be able to trace them if they were 'away on the night of the census'.

Jess sorry I can't find a thing.

Just did a quick check of the Historical Directories website. According to the 1890 Kelly's H E SULLIVAN was resident. Henry E SULLIVAN (retired Indian civil service) and family are in Great Houghton but the name of their home is not included in the census return. I'll have a look at the enumerators desription and see if that helps. Pete

These were the folks in 1871 I was thinking of - He's a brewer, but they have LOADS of servants..... Eliza J Arch abt 1853 Mears Ashby, Northamptonshire, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire Arthur W Coales abt 1861 Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England Son Great Houghton Northamptonshire Edith J A Coales abt 1864 Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Great Houghton Northamptonshire Florence E Coales abt 1868 Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Great Houghton Northamptonshire Gertrude L D Coales abt 1863 Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Great Houghton Northamptonshire Ida C M Coales abt 1866 Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Great Houghton Northamptonshire Kate E Coales abt 1862 Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Great Houghton Northamptonshire Kate G Coales abt 1837 Guildford, Surrey, England Wife Great Houghton Northamptonshire Mary Coales abt 1870 Gt Houghton, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Great Houghton Northamptonshire Nona K Coales abt 1869 Harpole, Northamptonshire, England Daughter Great Houghton Northamptonshire Thomas Coales abt 1833 Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England Head Great Houghton Northamptonshire Fanny G Finney abt 1833 Middlesex, England Wifes Sister Great Houghton Northamptonshire Thomas W Gibbons abt 1853 Daventry, Northamptonshire, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire Joseph J Jewkins abt 1845 Corfe Mullen, Dorset, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire Mary A Lunn abt 1848 Alvesdte, Warwickshire, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire Harriett Meekins abt 1825 Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire Mary A Moy abt 1841 Gt Dunham, Northamptonshire, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire Susan Ann Semmons abt 1854 Oxfordshire, England Servant Great Houghton Northamptonshire Merry

Hi Jess, having just looked at a 1886 map, there is no great Houghton hall at great Houghton, but across from st mary's church there is a building called ( The Hall ) Hope this helps Roy

Merry - look out for Houghton hall too , thats norfolk!! ours is deffo GREAT HOUGHTON HALL

Jewels, dont be so daft - ! if you want to have a ferret about just put GREAT HOUGHTON in the civil parish box, and northamptonshire in county, click on anyones Image icon and you are in there

Flippin' a2a thinks Great Houghton Hall is in the West Riding of Yorkshire! Merry

Carol - thanks you for looking - i cant imagine that it would be listed anywhere else but in the village, It isn't slap bang in the middle but its certainly not out on a limb anywhere. jess x